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Quade back for Bledisloe Redemption

Quade back for Bledisloe Redemption

Wallabies

All Blacks

1. Scott Sio (19)
2. Stephen Moore – captain (106)
3. Sekope Kepu (67)
4. Kane Douglas (24)
5. Adam Coleman (1)
6. Scott Fardy (34)
7. Michael Hooper (55)
8. David Pocock (57)
9. Will Genia (67)
10. Quade Cooper (58)
11. Dane Haylett-Petty (4)
12. Bernard Foley (31)
13. Samu Kerevi (2)
14. Adam Ashley-Cooper (115)
15. Israel Folau (42)
 1. Joe Moody (14)
2. Dane Coles (40
3. Owen Franks (81)
4. Brodie Retallick (51)
5. Samuel Whitelock (76)
6. Jerome Kaino (70)
7. Sam Cane (35)
8. Kieran Read – captain (88)
9. Aaron Smith (51)
10. Beauden Barrett (40)
11. Julian Savea (44)
12. Anton Lienert-Brown (0)
13. Malakai Fekitoa (16)
14. Israel Dagg  (52)
15. Ben Smith (52)

Finishers

Reserves

16. Tatafu Polota-Nau (65)
17. James Slipper (78)
18. Allan Ala’alatoa (1)
19. Dean Mumm (47)
20. Will Skelton (15)
21. Nick Phipps (43)
22. Reece Hodge (0)
23. Tevita Kuridrani (35)
 16. James Parsons (6)
17. Wyatt Crockett (49)
18. Charlie Faumuina (37)
19. Liam Squire (2)
20. Ardie Savea (3)
21. TJ Perenara (20)
22. Aaron Cruden (40)
23. Seta Tamanivalu (2)

Where: Westpac Stadium Wellington
When: Sat 27th August 5:35pm (AEST)
Referee: Romain Poite (France)

 Key points:

  • Four changes in the starting team from last week’s test match team for the Wallabies (Coleman for Simmons, Fardy for McCalman, Cooper for Giteau, Kerevi for Kuridrani)
  • Reece Hodge a potential debutant from the bench, following on from his Super Rugby debut for the Rebels this year, hot on the back of his NRC season for the North Harbour Rays in 2015
  • Quade Cooper returns to the 10 jersey where he last started for the Wallabies against Uruguay in last year’s RWC. With Foley at 12, expect them to alternate positions. Quade started at 12 for the Wallabies in 2009 at Cardiff (outside the man he replaces, Matt Giteau).
  • The All Blacks have upped their hyphen game with the selection of Anton Lienert-Brown to make his debut, opposite Dane Haylett-Petty and Adam Ashley-Cooper.
  • Stephen Moore remains starting hooker and captain.
  • Tim

    Bit worried about 10 and 12 both arn’t strong defenders but it would be effective in attack. Will skelton has been lacking form he will need a strong game. Really excited for SAMU!!! HELL YEAH

  • Seb V

    Moore is lucky the Captaincy saves him.

    • Henry Dissmissinya

      Absofrickenlutely it does

    • AlanDownunder

      Why would it save him? No-one gets refs offside quicker.

      • Nick Gregory

        Saves him from being cut….

    • Paul

      I have very little doubt Moore would have been dropped to the bench a long time ago if he wasn’t Captain. Changing Captain is obviously a step too far for Chieka. TPN has always looked better than Moore when he’s come on. Critics say TPN a bad lineout throw, but he could not be any worse than Moore surely. Other than that TPN is better in scrum and better around the ground and with ball in hand. Question marks as to his stamina. But not much difference to Moore.

  • Seb V

    Let’s go COOPER!!! Wallabies by 20+ ;-)

    • first time long time

      Maybe beating the AB’s to the showers by 20+ minutes.
      Here’s hoping for a good hard dig on Saturday night

      • John Tynan

        Just made my coffee come out my nose!

    • Kiwi rugby lover

      Love your enthusiasm Seb V. I hope they play better, could they ever play worse, but winning by 20+ may be a tad optimistic. Go you though mate

  • idiot savant

    This line up shows that Cheika has not given up hope of winning. And thats to be admired. Its an attacking line up, not a defensive one, when I for one was thinking defence should have been the primary reaction to last week.

    Its hard not to imagine that this will get the ABs to run all their attack at the 10 and 12 channels. At least that will stop them going wide!

    • Brendan Hume

      I see it as a not much doing line-up. Who in that Wallabies forward pack is going to be bending the line and getting them onto the front foot? You can’t attack on your heels. Compare the ball runners of the Wallabies forwards to the AB’s – it’s almost embarrassing.

      • idiot savant

        Well he is limited to the cattle he has got. Coleman and Skelton will provide more line bending than last week.

        • Smith

          I don’t think Skelton will bend the line, attract defenders maybe, but not any help getting past the advantage line. Just look at the England series, he’s just too slow. And don’t forget the line out will fall to pieces when he comes on. Everyone can see that the line out doesn’t work with so few targets, why can’t Cheika see it??

        • McWarren

          McMahon and Timani Spring to mind, Leroy Houston another. He has options, I’m dumb founded as too why he doesn’t see it.

    • Why

      I think the lineup suggests Cheika is playing to the galleries. Days numbered?

    • A80

      Best defensive response would have been to fire Grey who doesn’t have a clue.

  • Robbo_76

    - Very happy to see Quade back and hope that however they organise the defence between him and Foley, that it is effective (I imagine AAC will defend at 12 for Foley at a guess).
    – I feel for Simmo as i think he was better than many others on the weekend and was let down by line-out throws to an extent, but a change to Coleman may be a long term step forward
    – Surprised to see Pooper remain, but acknowledge its potential if we can get the line out functioning well again
    – I agree with Kerevi at 13 and Izzy at 15 and like this idea.
    – Can’t believe Mumm is in there again, but too many changes would be too unsettling and Cheiks knows what he will get from him. Happy for Skelton to be back in on the bench which i think is his best position atm
    – Finally, congrats to Hodge on your debut – good luck – let’s hope this is the first of many Wallaby caps

    Go Wallabies!

  • Seb V

    Timani for Skelton and I’d be a lot happier!

    • LED

      Agree! Skelton is just not mobile enough

      • Henry Dissmissinya

        If he wasn’t coming off the bench I would agree with that, in saying that I’d love to see Timani anyway

    • Braveheart81

      Would seem that Cheika isn’t looking at Timani as an option at lock at test level.

      • jamie

        Which I find odd, at the Rebs he’s their best scrummager and he’s a better jumper than Skelton will ever be.

        • Simon

          My 96 year old Nana is a better jumper than Skelton will ever be.

        • Smith

          We should chuck her in for Moore as well, maybe she can throw better.

        • jamie

          Even If she was deaf she’d still have better communication skills.

        • Smith

          Yeah, we wouldn’t have her yelling at the ref at least!

        • Kiwi rugby lover

          Love this piece. Especially as it’s all true

        • Simon

          Mate she’d have the ref eating out of her hand within 5 minutes. We wouldn’t get a penalty against us all night.
          Plus she’s probably a more potent ball carrier than Simmons.

        • Smith

          More potent ball carrier than the entire team!

      • Kiwi rugby lover

        He seems to not want Timani at all. Not sure why but he seems to just not like him

    • Keith Butler

      I wondered when Skelton would make an appearance. Is Rory Arnold injured or something. Just my opinion but LT offers far more as either as a starter or a replacement. Douglas or Coleman could get a game ending injury in the first minute and then where would we be. You only need to look at last week.

      • Braveheart81

        Arnold is still injured. It would seem Cheika is only looking at Timani as a backrow option at this stage.

        • first time long time

          so why can’t he be the “mythical” no 8 we try instead of taking it in the Pooper for another test

        • Braveheart81

          Timani doesn’t have good handling skills and is a pretty poor lineout option. Pocock and Hooper are consistently our two best forwards. The big problem in our forward pack is that our tight five are way down on workrate compared to the All Blacks and our backrow is trying to pick up a huge amount of that slack. Of that, Pocock and Hooper are getting through the majority of that work.

        • first time long time

          The back row is all out of kilter because of Hooper bring him off the bench to run around like a maniac in the last 30.
          Timani is a better line out option than Hooper and Pocock is a better openside

        • first time long time

          If Hooper is trying to pick up the slack from the tight 5 what is he doing on the wing!

        • Braveheart81

          That’s not where he stands in defence. Our forwards all have particular areas of the field they are meant to covering when we have the ball.

        • first time long time

          Its not working!

        • Gavin

          Ending that combo would be throwing the baby out with the bathwater.

        • first time long time

          Its not working

        • BloodRed

          It’s an ugly baby

        • first time long time

          You evil f’ker! I wrote that but had the decency to delete before sending!
          I know you’re talking about Hooper

        • BloodRed

          In tough conditions, some animals will eat their young for the good of the species…….not saying I’d eat pooper ’cause that’d be weird …….. or a German thing.

        • first time long time

          That was the wiener! Now here comes the schnitzel!

        • BloodRed

          I would have thought the breakdown was a pretty good area of the field for the number 7 to be covering. Maybe he could try that for a change. You know, mix it up, do something unexpected like perform the traditional duties of an open side flanker. It’d shock the fark out of me.

        • BloodRed

          I forgot hooper is redefining how a 7 plays, by playing on the wing. Just like our wingers are redefining wing play by being slow and our 10 by not being able to kick it further than 15m and our line out by not having any jumpers and our reserves by being worse than a bunch of guys who can’t get into the squad and our coaches by coaching a busted arse version of league when up against the best rugby team of all time.

        • Keith

          Hooper is the shining example of Modern Rugby, the nadir is you will. The old definitions of each positions roles are completely obsolete. As the most modern of all players, he knows a 7 doesn’t need to be involved at the breakdown, turnovers? Ha! A complete anachronism! Pushing in the scrum, pfft! What year is it? 1991??? The modern 7’s role is to be everywhere the ball is not, to confuse the opposition with counterintuitive play and to look good doing it.

        • BloodRed

          i think I get it. Add in slow wingers,locks without jumping ability but have soft hands, half backs who can’t pass and number 10s who can’t kick and there is no way the All Blacks can possibly keep down with the pace of our play. Those fools are out there playing rugby. Don’t they know that the game has moved on? I’ll bet the kiwis haven’t even had one training session with an NRL team! They’re doomed, it’s only a matter of time.

        • first time long time

          Especially when they find out we have a special tactical coach to compliment Mick Byrne…… John Hopoate!
          Its no coincidence we have Dirty Sanchez at half back.

        • Rebels3

          Agreed with the comments on the tight 5 and hooper/Pocock combination.

        • Pclifto

          Agree with this.

          Our 2nd row especially do not provide anywhere near enough impact. With powderpuff Simmons out we hopefully might see some improvement – Douglas needs to pull his finger out and get into the angry pills.

          And Moore must be on his last legs – TPN a much better prospect

    • Pclifto

      Agree. Still let’s see if the big man can prove us wrong

    • Kiwi rugby lover

      Absolutely. I think Skelton is a huge liability. Far too much of his reputation is based on media blowing his actions out of proportion. The AB’s will handle him running easily, he’s too slow around the field to make a difference in the tight and the linout is worse with him in it.

  • Henry Dissmissinya

    The 10-12 channel is looking awefully fragile, but maybe that’s why he has TK on the bench, if we are letting too many through chuck him on for foley, or kerevi if he is not handeling the darkness. I said this on the other comment section a second ago, Steven Moore should not be starting, his play level is shit, and i am embarrassed for the wallabies when he winges to referees. He’s served us well and kudos but I really don’t want to see him in the 2 jersey anymore. Apart from that, this team excited me. Oh and smuggle lopeti Timani in there for me

    • npivag

      Quade is almost certainly defending at 15 (he’s played enough there lately). He’s got a great long passing game so I wouldn’t mind him unlocking Folau for a kick return against a messy defence.
      I think the inside backs in our defensive line look like Foley-Kerevi-AAC.

      • Mike Thompson

        > Folau for a kick return against a messy defense.

        Trouble is … when was the last time Folau actually returned a kick with interest?

      • Nick

        Quade defends better than Foley which is what scares me the most!

  • npivag

    Well… I’d CHANCE a guess that the Wallabies defensive roles and their attacking roles have little to no connection.

  • Dud Roodt

    Glad Quade is in but he’s got fuck all help outside him in a horribly out of form and out of position Foley. Feel like we always give Quade a shot in the hardest of circumstances and if we don’t win we blame him.
    Good riddance to Simmons. May he have played his last game for the wallabies. Unless he figures out how to play hard.
    Real shame Moore is still there but cheika has been backed into a corner by having him as captain. Surely anyone can see he in the very least needs a rest.
    DHP still on the sting is a worry.
    For mine I would have done away with the Pooper for this test to see what happens. Have Hooper come on with 20 to go to go ape shit.
    Centres I would have had Kerevi and Folau. DHP to FB, Mitchell and AAC on the sting.

    • Tomthusiasm

      Cooper always gets thrown the Bledisloe in NZ start, happened last year too. I feel like Cheika uses a magic 8 ball when deciding on selections.

      • The difference being that we won the Sydney test last year so when we got smashed in NZ QC was blamed and everyone wanted Foley back. It will be harder to call for Foley this year coming off that debacle last weekend. This time he’s getting in at the basement level rather than the penthouse.

        • Who?

          What everyone overlooked last year, though, was that we won the Sydney test in spite of Foley, not because of him. And we lost in NZ not because of Cooper, but because of our pack. Foley’s performance in Sydney last year was quite poor – he got deeper and deeper until Phipps couldn’t pass it far enough to get the ball back to him. In spite of a dominant pack…

        • Spank

          Bigest loss for Australia this year was/is Kurtly Beale. Tragic!

    • Sammy Samlsa

      Would have had Kerevi 12 TK 13, a bit worried about Foley being run over and Kerevi being run around. Although TK has had a forgettable couple seasons in attack he is still the best backline defender we have by a way. Cant recall Conrad Smith ever setting the world alight in attack. In saying that TK might have been identified as to why we had such horrible backline defence in Sydney and has paid the price… I guess we just need to have faith in the coaches. Would have started him or dropped him completely though, not enough run for a “finisher” in my opinion.

      • brumby runner

        TK made 17 tackles from 17 attempts in Sydney. Can’t see how the defensive shambles at Sydney can be laid at his feet in any way.

        • Warwick Todd

          TK’s defence was great, he just had a bad day with his hands. I think Quade would do a better job of putting the ball in front of him to run onto. We will see Cooper, Kerevi and TK in the same line on Saturday but they’ll be chasing 30 by then.

        • Who?

          What odds Cheika subs off Cheika for TK..? Foley to 10? Can’t see Foley getting subbed…

        • Warwick Todd

          Cheika is out of form so it’s on the cards.

        • Who?

          Good point! I meant Cheika will sub off QUADE for TK… So we won’t see Quade – Samu – Tevita. We’ll see Foley – Hodge – TK.

      • Paul

        Conrad Smith whilst not known for his attacking game but was the perfect partner for Nonu as a pairing, marshalled the defence and was an awesome distributor to the NZ back 3. He also rarely rarely rarely ever made a mistake or error and was an awesome defender. The way AB’s played they didn’t need another attacking centre given their other attacking options out wide (and inside) and Conrad Smith provided the balance and glue that held it all together.

        • Rocky Elboa

          Conrad was also great at running lines and putting other guys in holes. His attack was good it just selfless

        • Paul

          yeah couldn’t agree more. I’d go so far as saying he was the most critical member of the AB backline..(other than Carter)

        • Kiwi rugby lover

          Absolutely. Nicknamed snake because he could snake through a gap and put his wingers and fullback away

        • Purce

          Mate completely agree. I’ve been saying, since he announced his AB retirement, that he is the player they will miss the most and find most difficult to replace. Without Conrad NZ wouldn’t have had nearly as many wins in that time. Incredible player, doesn’t get the kudos he deserves however somehow I get the picture he likes it that way. Attack, defense, organisation and leadership…. he had it all. Also legitimately humble, as opposed to this fake humble many athletes are these days.

      • Kiwi rugby lover

        TK has been shafted. Got shit ball under pressure, defended his heart out and was one of the few Wallabies who actually tackled and for his effort he gets dropped while the totally useless Foley, Moore, Hooper, Mumm and Douglas get more lives. I really don’t understand this
        Smith’s job wasn’t to do that he was there to setup others and defend, which he did really well. I really don’t get this fascination with two playmakers, every player should be able to make play

        • McWarren

          I don’t get it either, defence lost us any chance last week, so we drop our two best defenders. And instead of promoting a good defender and our form back of the year, Hodge, we go with a very susceptible 10, 12 and 13. And still no pace on the flanks in cover defence.

          Swap hodge for Foley and drag a speedster from club or sevens. Now is the time to throw a little caution to the wind.

      • AlanDownunder

        A centre who unerringly ran the right lines, who never passed when nothing better was on, who never missed a pass (however quick or tricky) when something better was on. He never “set the world alight in attack”? Ok, he just set the ABs alight so they could set the world alight. TK, for all his strengths, does not compare. For creativity, look elsewhere.

    • Kiwi rugby lover

      This really seems like setting him up for a fall. I really hope it doesn’t happen but he’s on a hiding to nothing

  • sugarwookie

    Foley at 12…

    Kyle Godwin, specialist 12?

    • Seb V

      If it was 2013 Godwin would probably be there but he ain’t even in the squad.

      • sugarwookie

        Yeah i don’t know why… I thought he had a good year with the Force. I’d say he’d be a natural successor to Toomua.

      • Farthing

        Yeah I don’t get this Godwin stuff. He looked brilliant when he first came on the scene as a fly half. Now he is a dull centre doing nothing spectacular in the worst team in super Rugby.

        • AlanDownunder

          Yep. If we’re after the best specialist 12 still standing, it’s Inman who’s as much underrated as Godwin is overrated.

      • McWarren

        Unfortunately Godwin suffered from that strange illness of being in form and ignored, then got injured. I haven’t given up on him yet

  • A Fan

    Excited that there has been some positive changes but who exactly is doing the tackling in our backline, QC, Foley and Samu all very suspect and Folau made a solitary tackle in the first Test. We might have to notch up a 40 point score just to be in the ball game.

    • Dud Roodt

      Well I know Pocock tackled for Quade at school so maybe the same directive has come through again

      • jamie

        To be fair, most 12’s tackle for their 10…

        • Kiwi rugby lover

          Not in NZ mate and certainly not in the All Blacks. Merhts got told shape up or ship out and so learnt to tackle, Carter had great defence, Cruden has great defence, Barratt has great defence. This shifting people round in attack and defence is a crock. If someone can’t tackle then teach them how to. If they can’t learn then maybe they should go play soccer or something

        • jamie

          Ideally, the 10 can tackle, but when it’s your locks or big Blindside’s running constantly through the 10 channel, the 10 is usually given some respite, as he/she is contending with more pressure than the rest of the side

  • Mike Thompson

    That 10 / 12 combination is the risky call. I don’t like it.
    If you select Cooper at 10, I’d have thought you’d pick two ball running centers to run off him. That maximises what Cooper is good at.

    The other risk is Fardy calling the lineouts, but I’m so glad to see Simmons gone, I’ll happily wear that.

  • Hoss

    Ok – time to switch my attitude from ‘WTF was that’, to how do we get up Saturday nite ?
    Really positive signs that Chek has mad some big / needed / ballsy changes.
    Still think Foley is a ‘rabbit in the headlights’ but i see we have cover in Hodge / Kerevi to 12 if / when needed should it start going pear shaped again.

    I think Pooper is like “Bucks Fizz’ – popular for a while but faded quickly, would have liked Hooper on pine and Timani to start.

    But stuff it – go you good things.

    I will dare to believe again, ‘once more unto the breach’

    • brumby runner

      My tip is that if things start to go pear shaped and Hodge is brought on, then it will be Cooper, not Foley, who is replaced. Remember tests 1 and 2 v England when the attack was shit. Replacements were brought on for Kerevi who was best back in the Wallabies while Foley remained on and nothing improved.

      • Seb V

        This thought scares me too. Cheika has been horrible with replacements. Another example not using Frisby at all whilst Phipps was having shocker after shocker.

  • first time long time

    Baby steps from Cheika, some good some not so….

    Hodge start and Foley on bench and I’d be smiling at that backline.
    TPN start, Ready/Hanson on bench.
    Just fk Mumm off.
    Pocock to 7 Hooper to bench, Timani at 8
    Not sure what to do about Mr soft hands, ok swap him for McMahon

    Oi Oi Oi!

    • sugarwookie

      THIS^^^

    • Klaus

      Agreed

    • Sambo

      Someone read the roar

      • first time long time

        Not sure if thats a question but if it is, No.
        Its just common sense and has been discussed in depth right here.
        IF you a suggesting I do that…. OK

        • Sambo

          so i see it’s not your first time

        • first time long time

          The force is strong in this one

    • Henry Dissmissinya

      100% except mum has versitility off the bench

      • frist time long time

        Yeah theres always a compromise, but I’d rather McMahon’s brutal running and defence to Mumm’s master of no trades.

        • Qualify

          Exactly!! Timani and McMahon should be in there somewhere!

      • BloodRed

        Being equally bad a more than one position doesn’t equal versatility

  • Nick

    That back line looks like a massive turnstile.

  • Bruce

    Shuffling deckchairs on the Titanic.

  • LED

    Does this team at all sound like a recipe for a win?

    Our main problems were at lineout and I cant really see that changing with this pack – we’re still playing the Pooper and removed our main lineout caller (when we’ve done this before with Simmons we’ve had to put him straight back in next game because the result is even worse).

    Our in game kicking was responsible for many tries and Quade isnt exactly known for his prowess there. All I seem to remember from his tenure at 10 were kicks going out on the full or straight down ABs throats just like last week. Maybe he gets a few more metres but if no one is chasing anyway who cares.

    Our defence got torn apart in the backs and we’ve put in an untested centres combination with one of them not a centre

    – The only justification here for these changes is: well who the hell else?

    The only way to possibly shake up the ABs devastating offloading game is to employ a fast rush up defence with big tacklers putting them under sustained pressure and kocking them backwards in contact. You need a big 8, a big fast 6 and big centres at the very least. We have maybe 1 from 4 here and based on last weeks defensive style clearly arent being trained to rush up.

  • Brisneyland Local

    Ok ok I am pretty much bak into a positive change of mind.
    My only real concerns are:
    – Foley at 12, I personally would have him on the bench.
    – Still not sure about the Pooper thingy!
    – How the fuck did Will skelton get back in the mix.

    But overall I am now looking forward to this.
    I think this is going to be interesting to watch.
    Fingers crossed everyone.

    • Dud Roodt

      I think he’s in the mix due to not one wallaby forward being able to make any metres at all

      • Brisneyland Local

        That i understand, but I am extremely worried he is only good for 30 mins, and is prone to brain snaps!

      • jamie

        Interesting, most games he plays he’s 3 runs for 5m. Don’t see any metres there, and that’s not even against the ABs last week

    • Keith Butler

      He’s Cheks secret love child.

      • Brisneyland Local

        Must have had a good looking mum, becaus there is no resemblance! ;-)

  • Straith
    • first time long time

      interesting that the only aussie runner in that opening passage to NOT make the ad line was Skelton

    • 10:55 Very few people can do that. That pass to Beale while running straight on is ridiculous,

      • Straith

        It’s beautiful isn’t it.

      • Pills

        Let’s hope we see some of the same on Saturday

      • Ragnar

        Cheika’s reaction at 11.20
        ‘how’m I gonna justify Foley in the team if he keeps playing like this’

      • HK Red

        It’s the reverse of what he did earlier in match, long precise left-hander to Mitchell (around the 8:50 mark).
        Just beautiful to watch.

    • Huw Tindall

      It was the best of times, it was the worst of times….take me back to October 2015 please. Great time to be a Wallabies fan living in London. Until the final.

  • Fatflanker

    Poite’s the ref…scrum time should be interesting.

    • Simon

      It’s okay, he has a new tool to help him decide scrum penalties:

      • Paul

        that’s funny. 1 point to you!

  • Simon

    Good to see the shake-up in the backline. It’s a risk playing Foley at 12, but let’s face it, something had to change after the combination of injuries and last week’s flogging. I’d much rather we try something new and go down guns blazing rather than try the same thing and meekly fold. FANTASTIC to see Hodge on the bench, even if he’s pretty much there by default as last man standing. Also fantastic to see Samu. Fekitoa will be having flashbacks to the Reds/Highlanders game when Kerevi went through him like a nun’s first curry.

    But just as we fix the backline we miss a huge chance to do the same to the forwards. No change to the front row or bench front row despite the starting front row being ineffectual last week. Surely Sio has been found at scrum time and should be replaced by Slipper, Alaalatoa should be at reserve loosehead and Robertson should be reserve tighthead. Moore needs to be dropped or at least benched.

    Swapping Simmons for Coleman does nothing to fix the fact the lineout problems are primarily due to lack of jumpers due to playing Pooper. Mumm was our best forward last week IMO so he’s earned his spot but Skelton is a big step backwards. The guy has not been an asset to the Wallabies ever since blokes realised that to bring him down you just need to pin his legs, and that was about four games after his debut.

    All in all this is an exciting, all-or-nothing backline but the forwards are no improvement from last week so it’s hard to see how they can avoid being towelled up front enough to get the ball into Kerevi’s hands. Tipping an improved showing in handling but still All Blacks by 20+.

    • Huw Tindall

      through him like a nun’s first curry….*writes down phrase for later use*

  • I love the strategy of Chieka picking Quade. The ABs will be too busy booing him to play any rugby.

    • Tim

      Yeah true… like the last time Quade played them… oh hang on… perhaps the time before that… oh wait.

  • rossco

    could we borrow Thurston and Hayne for the weekend ?

    • jamie

      Only JT. Hayne can’t be eligible.

      • Pedro

        BUT IT’S HIS DREAM!!!!!!

    • Pills

      What, to kick when we deep in the 22 attacking?

    • Kit Walker

      I’d take either Cronk or JT any day of the week.

  • jamie

    Genuinely can’t be any worse than last week. Reckon I could’ve made a better 15 out of the players NOT starting last week. Here we go:

    Slipper
    TPN
    Holmes
    Horwill
    Coleman
    Fardy
    McMahon
    Timani

    Phipps
    Cooper
    Naiyaravoro
    Toomua
    Kerevi
    Mitchell
    Hodge

    Would’ve been more competitive than last week. Add Poey, Folau and Genia to that team and fuck i’d be happy

    • Brendan Hume

      I’m not a fan of Naiyaravoro but that looks a pretty good team on paper…

      • jamie

        What worries me is that I picked this team predominantly on its defensive capabilities (and players outside their XV), yet on paper it looks like a stronger attacker as well. Naiyaravoro is the defensive exception, of course ;-)

        Besides, 2 tries in 22 test minutes is a pretty damn good strike rate for a winger.

        • Brendan Hume

          It looks better attacking because Horwill, Coleman, Fardy, McMahon and Timani are better ball carriers than the incumbents. We can’t win unless we go forward. I can’t see how the coaches don’t see this… McMahon looks like the best ball carrying forward in Australia – I’m not sure if the stats back that up though.

        • jamie

          Pretty sure he was the form 7 of the competition with Ardie Savea (and perhaps Kriel for the lions(RSA open sides play 6))

    • Smith

      Drop Phipps for Frisby.

  • Pills

    We need Beale back

  • Liz

    Why not drop Foley all together if you want to go with Copper. Put AAC in the 12 jersey? Hodge on the wing?

    • Braveheart81

      Cheika wants a second playmaking option.

      • Liz

        What Cheika wants and what Cheika needs are two totally different things. lol
        He needs one play maker that works before he can even think about a second. Foley has been a no show at 10, what makes him think that he’s going to suddenly be any better at 12? A position he has never played. At least AAC is solid in defense at 12.

      • Who?

        True. But Quade’s not Foley – he’s more able (note the use of the modifier) to cope without a second playmaker, at least partly because his own game isn’t as heavily based around taking on the line himself.
        But honestly, does Cheika really know what he needs right now..? What gives you confidence that he does..?

      • first time long time

        He also wants to win… but how does the saying go… want in one hand shit in the ohther, see which fills up first ; )

  • Owen McCaffrey

    Couple points:

    (1)Good selection of Quade Cooper. All Blacks looked their best last week with both Cruden and Barrett on. Cooper and Foley will switch positions constantly to fool the AB defence and multiple kicking options are good.

    (2) Still unsure if the Pocock and Hooper selection is correct. As long as there is a big blind-side flanker replacement once Wallabies start losing lineouts again two 7s become a liability so get one off.

    (3) I expect Folau to be shifted to 13 at some point during the game and Kerevi to the Wing. Folau is the Wallabies most potent attacking linebreaker and he is just not getting enough gainline ball

    (4) GAMEPLAN: The way to beat the All Blacks is you have to beat them up-front and take your chances out wide. Australia was beaten last week because they never seriously attacked the forward channels. Run 35 phases of rucks and mauls up field until you lose the ball or it is turned over. Find their weakness. Niggle them and hold them into rucks abd mauls like they held you in. Tie them in, burn them out. Hansen has picked ball runners not maulers or wrestlers so that is their weakness. They will tired and their skill is not good. That is why England and South Africa always have their number. And France.

    • Paul

      “They will get tired and their skill is not good. That is why England and South Africa always have their number. And France”…..hahaha this is great comedy writing….for a minute there I actually thought you were serious….

    • Tim

      Lol. Since when do ‘England and South Africa always have their number’??
      You do know this is a rugby forum, not cricket… right?

      The ABs have an astonishing record against both those nations – particularly England. In fact England have beaten them just ONCE in the last FOURTEEN years! (even worse than the Wallabies’ record)

      • Owen McCaffrey

        I see you carefully avoided France there for obvious reasons. But I’m a Kiwi and I didn’t mean winning. Kiwis are more afraid of those teams because they play a more different style that unsettles our players. NZ is much less afraid of Australia not because we play them alot but because the styles are similar.

        My point was to mix it up to a style the ABs are not comfortable with, put them out of their comfort zone and on the back foot.

        Play them at their own game and they will beat you.

        If you want more examples:

        – Kiwi players are well used to running midfielders so the dual playmaker choice is good. It is one of the first times the ABs have done it last week in the second half. They are good at kick returns but a dual kicking threat with efficient kicks is different.

        – NZ has recently moved to using larger flankers. Australia persists with the Pocock and hooper experiment but NZ routinely gets caught out by big Northern forwards getting over the gain line and making metres. They much prefer the league style game wide of the ruck and trying to slow the ball down.

        – Wallabies never tested their mauling. Ireland, Argentina, France will spend 10 minutes just mauling them. Wearing them down and getting penalties. It is demoralizing and gets your team up.

        – where has the Nathan Sharpe niggle gone? The Bakkes Botha? You let them get on top of you in the collision. Too nice. I feel like the All Blacks feel like they are playing a game of touch footy out there. France, England’s Haskill…all teams need enforcers.

        • Dave

          ABs aren’t ‘afraid’ of any team you twat. They ‘respect’ teams to a different degree, and the Boks top that list

        • Owen McCaffrey

          Semantics

        • Tim

          I didn’t mention France because you only cited ‘England and South Africa’. If you’d mentioned France in that sentence I would have similarly pointed out the the ABs have an incredible record against them too… including now NINE wins in a row with the last one in particular an absolute embarrassment

        • Owen McCaffrey

          Unfortunately for all the statistics in the world rugby isn’t won or lost on those. You are obviously not a Kiwi because all Kiwis know France is our bogey team. The fact ou don’t know that means you are just looking at the numbers. The French push the All Blacks in the games that MATTER and knocked us out of two World Cups and lost to us in a final 8-7. South Africa has a formidable record against NZ. As near as 2 years ago one of the games in South Africa was in NZ opinion the game of the Season. Guess who won. BOKS. Your rugby lesson is over for now but I could go on about England and Argentina too. Their forward and set piece style is different to how the All Blacks play. But if stats are all that matter to you kee playing with them. They don’t win you the next game or explain how you lost the last one.

        • A80

          Not sure afraid is right but I get the point you’re making and think it has some validity. It feels like its going to be a while before England and the All Blacks meet and whilst it looks like the All Blacks will just keep getting better I hold out some hope for the idea that when we next play England may actually have a backs division with some real ability to hurt them. That the forwards will deliver is not in doubt.

  • Oh dear. Cheika has used damp bandaids on the enormous tear in the Wallabies last Sat. It’s certainly a better team IMO but the bandaids are quickly going to fall off I fear. The soggiest of all are
    1 – Foley – just keep him or flick him. Don’t just move him. Piss weak call there by Chiek. What does he offer at 12? Poor Quade!
    2 – Keeping DHP on the wing. Get ready to leak tries there again. Mitchell must not be fit. (He doesn’t really look it)
    3 – No Timani. He’s a beast. I’m sure Dane Coles is happy he’s not playing.
    4 – Was never going to happen but Moore is either A/ a spent force or B/ needs a spell.
    Missed opportunity big time!

    • Owen McCaffrey

      Quade Cooper is starting at 10

      • I know. I mean poor Quade having such an out-of-form player outside him.

  • Julian Manieson

    Honestly? I’m kind of hopeful.
    Foley at 12 will play the Giteau role, and however much you dislike him, his first movement is always straight (rather than sideways like gits). Tipping Foley to do well in this “new” role (and I’m a Brumbies Fan!).

    Scared the lineout will go to shit. Deeply deeply scared. But Adam Coleman is a gun, and Cheik-Ball is all the better with him in the team.

    Quade… I mean it’s a bit horrendous that this is the game he’s been given on his return, but what can you do really? Something had to change. Here’s hoping he can do a Batman and save the selectors even if they don’t deserve it.

    Samu Kerevi to 13? Party time imo
    As for the Folau advocates… watch the Wallabies play – his main avenue of attack is already the 13 channel. Keeping him at fullback means he can take High balls and has more freedom in attack (rather than having to be a defensive lynchpin)

    I’d have had Lopeti on the bench instead of Skelton as a back-row sub, but perhaps better to give him a debut v the Springboks (back row has been good – no need to force change necessarily yet).
    Anyway
    Come on you Wallabies!

    • Seb V

      I agree Foley should do very well on attack, defence a big big question mark.

    • Adrian

      I think lineout better, because Coleman has the physique to withstand challenges better than Simmons

  • Paul

    I almost hate to say this but, this is the exact team I would have chosen apart from starting Pocock and Hooper together. I’d have Poey at 7 (sub with Hooper off the bench) and a better lineout option at 8 – whoever that is (Timani?) As much as I’m not a fan of Cooper – I think he’s a better option right now at 10 as plays well with Genia. Foley is a good runner with ball in hand and not many other options at 12. Foley better at 12 than Cooper and I think too early for Hodge. Bring Hodge on late as a sub. I prefer Kervi at 13. Kuridrani had to be dropped. No question about that. Sub him on later if Kerevi is not getting it done.

    I thought AAC actually did OK on the wing. DHP had a shocker last game, but I’d persist with him – but FFS get some width in the Wallaby line on defence and stop playing so narrow.

    I think Genia and Cooper can flatten the line on attack and play more shallow than Genia and Foley. Copper got a better kicking game than Foley IMHO.

    Going to be interesting watching the all-blacks target the 10/12 channel with everything they got. Copper and Foley not the best defenders so just watch the AB’s back row and centre pairings really apply the rush defence and pressure on Cooper/Foley. Can they handle the pressure? We will soon find out.

    Again the lineout will be suspect with only 3 jumpers….clearly Cheka just won’t learn that playing Pocock/Hooper together unbalances the scrum.

    • Paul

      Sorry just to add – I would have dropped Moore to the bench and started with TPN.

      • Adrian

        Great minds think alike.
        Exactly my team too, except I too would have dropped Moore, and had Timani starting, with Hooper on bench. I would have swapped DHP with Kurandrani

    • Huw Tindall

      Good chat Paul. Agree with it all pretty much. Can see rationale for Foley at 12 although I’d have gone with Hodge. Hooper and one of the locks will be defending in and round the 10/12 channel for sure.

      Still a bit worried about our exit strategies from our 22, the general lack of quality kicking (especially at #15), and our lineout. Tough one to sort out as we don’t have a genuinely good jumping backrower who is also handy around the park. Surely we can teach Timani to jump? If so I’d bench Hooper and move Poey back to 7. Given the 10/12 axis this may leave our defense a bit out. Although Timani is a big hitter in his own right.

      All in all a move in the right direction. Moore is probably next guy to face the chop if he doesn’t step up. Too many good options in TPN, Hansen, and Ready. If he wasn’t captain you’d think he’d have been dropped already.

  • muffy
    • Brendan Hume

      I did like this comment though:
      “Trying to look for a positive reason why you would have a 10/12 combo of Cooper and Foley and can only assume they want the AB’s to run that channel and have Pocock and Hooper ready to pounce. Because otherwise I have seen better defence from Trump supporters”

      • muffy

        I think they think we are thinking that, but dont think we are thinking that at all… I think

  • Who?

    Great. So, drag back Quade, so that when we lose by 50, we can say it’s all his fault.
    Great, let’s drop the only two players in the team who tackled at over 90% on the weekend (Simmons at 92% and Kuridrani at 100%), when we lost in a game where we missed over 30 tackles.
    Great, let’s move our 10 – who we shuffle to the left wing to minimize his defensive workload – to inside centre!
    Great, we struggled to keep pace with the ABs, and we couldn’t win our own lineout, so lets grab a bloke for the bench who struggles to keep pace with his own shadow, and can’t jump in a lineout.
    Man, I feel so optimistic!!!!!!!

  • Why

    Why not Foley 10, Folau 12 and Cooper 15?

    • jamie

      When was the last time Foley managed a game well? Even against England last year his brilliance was individual try scoring ability.

      • Gavin

        Fair point. When was the last time Cooper managed a game well though? Just looking at what is available.

        • jamie

          Apart from vs Uruguay, he did alright against S Africa in 2015, and the spring tour 13. Ireland and Wales were ridiculously good games by him. That’s the last time he’s had a decent run of games between injuries.

      • first time long time

        I have to say that game against Eng was very good from Foley.
        It is one of the few that I thought he really took the game by the throat and not just because of his try or good goal kicking.
        He was in position and directing play well.

  • Rob Malcolm

    Am trying to see the logic of Cooper-Foley axis, and the one thing I can come up with is to target new-boy Lienart-Brown with some fancy moves.

    • Adrian

      Better passing and kicking (and running) from Cooper, helped by an alternate kicker in the form of Foley. This makes it a bit harder for NZ to target our kickers. I think Cooper will often cut out Foley and pass to Kerevi and Folau

      • Rob Malcolm

        Yeah well there’s the problem: both Cooper and Foley are crap kickers, so I don’t see having 2 crap kickers is better than 1. I’ll stick to my fantasy of why Cheik is picking them, but I suspect you’re right!

        • Adrian

          Cooper is a longer more accurate, more natural kicker than Foley. I think that the idea is that when they rush the kicker, Cooper can on occasions offload to Foley, or Genia can chose to pass to Foley…occasionally. This might split up the rushing defence, and Cooper could also then run it.
          Much better than before with Cooper there, when it comes to kicking I think

  • Bay35Pablo

    I said to a mate earlier in the week reckoned Cooper would get picked at 12. He greeted that with horror, and was even more horrified he’s at 10 with Foley at 12, reckoning we’ll get flogged again.
    I’m not so sure. Cooper is an X factor player the ABs hate, which was part of my logic to go for him. Everyone reckons he’s a turnstile, but from memory his defence had tightened up. Further, half the backline including DHP were trunstiles last week so that’s no bar to picking him ….
    I reckon AAC would be better at 13. Not unhappy Kuridrani out of starting XV as he has been out of form. I am still bewildered we are so short on winger depth. Only a few years ago we were drowning in them.

    • The trouble with Cooper and Foley next to each other is you’ve got two players in adjacent channels for whom defence is not tip-top. Cooper is better than he used to be, and Foley isn’t the worst defensive 10 I’ve seen but whether you reckon 12 is inside centre or second five-eighth they’re a player with many more defensive duties than a 10.

      Ardie Savea likes running through those channels when he gets on, if they’re still there. Beauden Barrett will be there to run through them all night. I’m sure Israel Dagg will step in a channel to run through them will glee. Julian Savea quite often comes in and looks for work in the middle of the park and will run at them too. That’s four players that are a handful for much better tacklers than Foley, with Cooper as his inside “help” and no chance of anything going wrong there.

  • Gavin

    I am surprised by the selections. If Cooper is coming back into the fold (I don’t agree but fair enough) this seems like it is throwing him to the lions a bit. Fullback would seem like the right move, let Folau in at 12 where he wants to play anyway? When Cooper gets some confidence and match sharpness put him in at #10 for the next game?

  • Warwick Todd

    Foley at 12……wtf? You couldn’t make this shit up after a litre of Bundy! Is Cheika barking mad? Hooper and Pocock again……they must have figured out a way to lift Hooper by the ankles.

    Why can’t Cheika select players in their positions of experience? At what point on the Nuns point scoring curve will changes be made?

    Cheika: stranger than fiction.

    • Braveheart81

      Who is this mythical test number 8 we pick who provides more than Hooper or Pocock? We just don’t have one.

      • Warwick Todd

        Lopeti Timani or Leroy Houston.

      • jamie

        Enter the ring Lopeti Timani, No really. I think he shaves his head and competes in the MMA.

      • fatman

        Jordy Reid from the Rebels could be a good start & while we’re at it put Nic Stirzaker at 9 & Jack Debreczini at 10

    • Gavin

      Hooper and Pocock isn’t the problem

      • first time long time

        You are right, its not THE problem but it is A problem.

        • Gavin

          I disagree.

          Their failure to impose on the game last week was a symptom of other problems problems rather than the cause.

          They are two of Australia’s best players, have proven to work at this level and Australia don’t exactly have a compelling alternative.

      • Warwick Todd

        Correct, Pocock’s fine! Hoopers the problem…..too fckn small! Did you watch them lift the little fella last week? It looked cute but failed miserably.

        • Gavin

          It is funny how there is a group of people who slate Hooper and Cheika all the time, despite evidence on the pitch, and are constantly praising Cooper, despite evidence on the pitch.

        • first time long time

          Do you just ignore the facts or are you as I suspect utterly ignorant?

          As has been discussed Cooper has one of the most successful winning %”s of this team, and you went very quiet once the stats were produced comparing he and Foley.

          We have lost 5 in a row.

          Hooper although a good runner and defender is ineffective at the breakdown.

          Criticism of Cheika isn’t without warrant given the recent turn of events. His test record is now as bad as Eddie Jones’ (until he coached against Australia)

          People want Cooper because he will at least give us a chance of unlocking the AB’s defence.
          It might not work but it is worth a roll of the dice.

        • Gavin

          Your same facts included nonsense like Foley never played in a side that beat NZ etc.

          If you think the reason why Australia lost 5 in a row is because of Hooper then that is up to you. I don’t think it is valid.

          A lot of the criticism is based on an emotional attachment to a player rather than any rationale.

          Australian rugby is is a massive slump, huge problems with it, of course. And Cheika is the face of it and deserves criticism. Dropping the best players is not the solution

        • Pete

          I agree Gavin, Hooper is definitely our best back!! Why would we drop him!!

          5 steals last match. All from pocock. Mcalman or McMahon could play 8 with Pocock at 7. Hooper on the bench to cover all fforwards and backs replacements.

        • first time long time

          Your 1st sentence is a complete lie! That was someone else who admitted their error.
          Please stop. you are embarrassing yourself!

          I didn’t even bother reading the rest of the shite you have written because it will equally make no sense or be a lie!

          Go back to the Mondays news and re the stats I posted for your benefit you muppet.

        • first time long time

          By the way…thank you for answering my question.

        • McWarren

          Sorry Gavin, can you show me the evidence you talk of re Hooper and Cheika?

          If Cooper was given the chances those two have had!!!

          For me with Hooper it’s not personal, he is just the second best 7 in the squad. The Pooper worked really well when it was a novelty/new but it has been worked out. If Timani or dare I say it Higgers been given the 8 jersey last year we would,IMHO, have a decent test 8. Instead we are persisting with two short work horses.

  • Mart

    Better looking pack.
    Never thought id see 12. infront of Foleys name

  • Smith

    Kuridrani gets benched for a poor game, good replacement there, I agree it was overdue.

    Stephen Moore, worst captain Australia has ever had, slow, misses tackles, can’t throw in the line-out, poor scrum, solid replacement in TPN, Moore keeps his place.

    Come on, Moore needs to go, he is a bigger problem than kuridrani!

  • Adrian

    Half way there, helped by the injuries.
    I’d have made 2 more changes to the 23, dropping Moore & Mumm, and bringing in Hansen/Ready and Timani.
    It’s a start though, and oddly enough I don’t mind Foley at inside centre. Our field kicking will improve 200% with Cooper, and lineout will improve a bit.
    Cooper will unfortunately be criticized when we loose,…..but there is a slight chance we’ll win, instead of no chance.
    NZ by 15. TAB says NZ by 19.5

  • Qualify

    Great! Simmons and McCalman gone! Lovit! Shows signs of an awakening. Only glaring obvious huge problem – Foley at inside. Guy can’t tackle and they put him in the midfield against Brown and Fekitoa. Here’s hoping the All Blacks don’t get lots of possesion.

  • Warwick Todd

    Is Mumm’s dad Foleys mum’s bridge partner?

  • Adrian

    Mumms’s dad, Two Dads and Lakham’s dad are all part of an ARU conspiracy which will culminate in the mother of all battles the day after Father’s Day at Eden Park.
    …..just saying..

    • Paul

      Clearly Moore has incriminating photos of Chieka’s Mum…..only reason I can see he’s still getting selected…

    • Adrian

      It’s the day before Father’s Day actually

  • Adrian

    In defence of Skelton
    Not everyone’s cup of tea, but he hasn’t been part of any of this year’s lineout capitulations. He played well for a bit over half of the 3rd test v England, and was already off when the lineout disintegrated. He wasn’t in 1st 2 tests v England, and wasn’t in last weeks test.
    Skelton will HURT the ABs when he’s on. It’s a Pitty Timani wont be there too!

    Simmons, Mumm, McCalnan, Moore, don’t hurt, these guys do.
    If we are going to loose, let NZ feel that at least they’ve played

    • ForceFan

      I’ve watched the England Test 3 at least 3 times.
      Can you please tell me a single player who Skelton HURT?
      He did little to help the Wallabies cause.
      In his 55 minutes Skelton’s impact as follows:
      + 7 carries for 0m (0DB,0CB,0OL)
      + 6 Tackles
      + 16 Ruck Involvements (15 Attack/1 defence)
      + Conceded 3 Penalties.
      + If he took a line out I don’t recall (but it would have been memorable).

      I can’t imagine that any of the All Blacks are shaking in their boots (except in gleeful anticipation).
      I’d be rapt to see even a glimpse of the player whom some think he could be.

      Before anybody comes in the the “haters like to hate” comment.
      I don’t hate Will Skelton.
      But I am totally bemused as to why he gets the ongoing selection, support, input and benefits of a Wallabies top-up.
      I am also disappointed that so many far better players have not benefited from the same level of generosity in selection (15 Test caps?!) and opportunities to Kon Tiki tour with the Wallabies.

    • Dave

      The only people Skelton hurts are those he blind sides with his cheap shots

    • Bruce

      He’s a giant soft pillow. Mr StayPuft!

  • 22metri

    no, no, I’m crying for joy, leave me alone, please

  • McWarren

    Still no pace or intensity

  • Paul

    Whatever happened to Scott Higginbotham? I know he went off to play in Japan and has less than 60 tests…but just saying – I don’t see any better 8’s going around that would be useful in the lineout…?

    • jamie

      Exactly what you said. He went to Japan. He never performed well as a Wallaby level 8, unfortunately. Decent 6 in tandem with Poey though

  • Kiwi rugby lover

    Didn’t see that coming. Good to see Kerevi get a start But I’m not sure having Quade at 10 and Foley at 12 will be a winning combination. It’ll be interesting and I’m prepared to be surprised but I think if the AB’s pressure Quade then Foley will be in for a rough time. I know he’s inexperienced at this level but I still think Hodge at 12 and Kerevi at 13 is a better move. I think the AB’s have got the Pooper sorted and continuing with that may not be the best move especially with no loose forward in the reserves.

    Sorry guys but I’m picking another rough night for Wallaby supporters

    • Huw Tindall

      Agree re Hodge at 12. Just too risky sticking Foley at 12 when he hasn’t played there before. Unnecessarily sticking to the dogma of dual play maker when we don’t have the troops. With Quade at 10 you’ve got someone who doesn’t need a second playmaker. His passing is so superior to Foley he can get the ball wide much more quickly and given he doesn’t run at the line as often as Foley he can quickly realign to be in the 10 position at the next ruck.

      Other than this I’m happy enough with the changes. Still worried about our exit strategies from our own 22 and general kicking of the back 3.

  • SD

    QC at 10? I think I’ve seen this one before and I didn’t like the ending. Happy to be proved wrong.

    I still can’t understand people wanting to play Hooper off the bench, he’s clearly one of our best players every week, as is Pocock. If we can’t find 3 good lineout options at 4, 5 and 6 then that’s where we need to be looking at changes.

    • first time long time

      did you like the ending the last 5 games?

  • Owen McCaffrey

    It seems the Rebels are the Hurricanes of Australia (except the Rebels didn’t win). Both the Rebels and Hurricanes deserved far more players in the test teams than they got based on Super Rugby form.

    We all know test teams are not always chosen on Super Rugby form but the Rebels and Hurricanes can claim to be hard done by.

    Not sure about Australian numbers but the consecutive table topping, consecutive home final hosting, 2016 champion Hurricanes provided the LEAST players to the All Blacks this year.

  • Spank

    Trusting that Stephen Moore steps up and earns his place in the squad or he steps (or is pushed) out of it entirely.

  • adastra32

    Oh dear, Quaalude Cooper….this is desperate and could get very messy.

  • A80

    Picking Moore because fifth time lucky?

  • Jim

    Foley still there? Must have something on cheika. Kicking problems? mmm lets get a guy at fly half who can’t kick, and a guy at inside centre who can’t kick. Good work.

  • RobC

    thanks Reg. Quade’s selection is a diversion

    The main issue is not QC, Its the Pooper.

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