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Brumbies edge out the Waratahs

Brumbies edge out the Waratahs

The Brumbies have got their season back on track with a gritty 19-13 win over the Waratahs in Canberra on the back of two tries to hooker Folau Fainga’a and a penalty try. It was a big performance after two poor results but it was their second half composure that was enough to get them over the line.

The Waratahs had plenty of chances to get into and even win the game after an early try to Michael Hooper but a disjointed performance from some of his teammates with a lot of dropped ball combined with two yellow cards to Sekope Kepu and Harry Johnson-Holmes not helping their cause.

The Match

The Waratahs got the scoring started in the just the fourth minute in unusual circumstances as Bernard Foley’s penalty goal attempt hit the right upright and was pounced upon by Michael Hooper who swiveled through some soft defence to score. And to prove it wasn’t a fluke, Foley’s conversion attempt also hit the right upright from a similar position.

With the Waratahs looking good in the early stages, the Brumbies did well to hold them out and when given their first chance in the Waratahs 22 it was the Brumbies Folau who scored to continue his hot try scoring form in 2019 a the Brumbies took a 7-5 lead after 15 minutes.

That sparked the Brumbies into action and on the back of an unlikely kick ahead from Lachlan McCaffrey that pinned the Waratahs down their own end, they rolled it over again through Fainga’a following a penalty to make it a seven point game.

The Wallaby laden backline of the Waratahs took a while to get going but they executed a brilliant move on the 30 minute mark that took scrambling defence from the Brumbies right on their own line to take down Alex Newsome.

But their good attacking work came undone on the 34 minute mark as Sekope Kepu was given a yellow card for high shot on McCaffrey in a clear out with his side in the Brumbies 22 and looking good to score next.

There was a bit of action right on half time as the Brumbies swooped on a lost ball and was toed ahead by Tevita Kuridrani but his counterpart Adam Ashley-Cooper saved the Waratahs from going further behind with a relieving penalty right under his own sticks to leave it 12-5 at the break.

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The Waratahs looked good after the break and opened the scoring in the second half with a well worked try to Alex Newsome in the right corner. Israel Folau provided the last pass after attracting three defenders to give Newsome the easy task to score. Foley was unable to convert from the touchline to leave it at 12-10.

Despite the Waratahs fight back, they looked to be trying too hard and score off every play and lacked a bit of composure at times with a number of loose balls out in the back field.

The Brumbies back row injury curse struck again with newly re-signed Rob Valetini getting twisted awkwardly in a tackle and his knee buckled and was immediately helped from the field.

From an earlier penalty, the Brumbies went to the lineout and the rolling maul and the pressure was too much for the Waratahs defence and referee Glen Jackson awarded a penalty try and the double whammy yellow card to Harry Johnson-Holmes for his efforts to make it 19-10 in the Brumbies favour.

The Waratahs were again able to weather the ten-minute period down to 14 players and were able to chalk up three points of their own to make it 19-13 as Foley finally landed a penalty goal.

With the subs emptying the bench in the last ten minutes, there was still time for some more action. Foley’s night of woe continued with another dropped ball to leave his team chasing the win.

The Brumbies thought they had scored late to Jordan Jackson-Hope but it was ruled out for a knock on but it didn’t matter in the end as the Brumbies won it 19-13.



The Game Changer

No real moment stood out and it was a pretty even battle throughout but the Brumbies did enough to keep their nostrils flared at the winning post for the win.


The G&GR MOTM

Folau Fainga’a was pumped up for this one and his two tries were enough to the get the Brumnbes the win.


Wallaby Watch

Bernard Foley seemed out of sorts with a below par game. Kurtley Beale tried to do everything for his side but unfortunately had little help. Michael Hooper was his energetic best and scored a try.
Scott Sio looked to have picked up an injury in a busy night. Rob Valetini looked to have picked up a serious knee injury. Tevita Kuridrani was quiet but did go close to scoring right on half time. Tom Banks was solid at the back and put in a good show.


The Details

Score & Scorers

BRUMBIES 19
Tries: Fainga’a’ 2, Penalty try
Conversions: Lealiifano
Penalties:
WARATAHS 13
Tries: Hooper, Newsome
Conversions:
Penalties: Foley

Cards

34 mins – Kepu (Waratahs) – Yellow
54 mins – Johnson-Holmes (Waratahs) – Yellow

  • Ian Rodger

    McCaffrey was a beast again today, has to be the form 8 in australia! Will he get a look in in the wallaby squad?

    Hopefully Valetini’s injury isn’t as bad as it looks. He was looking really good in the games he has played and needs to play as much as possible to keep developing.

  • D. Braithwaite’s The Brumbies

    For me, McCaffrey was definitely man of the match. He’s the form back rower in Australia and the form forward in Australia.

    With the exception of Lealiifano against the Chiefs, he’s been the Brumbies’ man of the match every game. Contributes at the breakdown, fast, skilful, powerful in defence and good in the line out. Surely has to start at 8 for the Wallabies if he keeps this up.

    Beale looked drunk and was terrible. Foley was even worse. Kepu I suspect will get suspended – yet another example of idiotic discipline from him this year.

    No good Brumby backs, sadly. Aside from Powel who was good.

    Slipper, Sio, Faingaa, Valetini and Samu all very good.

    I don’t get the Gordon hype.

    • Hoss

      Sherbet – Lilo was dreadful and STILL comprehensively outplayed Spanners…….bugger me.

      • D. Braithwaite’s The Brumbies

        Lilo wasn’t awful, just utterly invisible on attack. He made his tackles, didn’t chance his arm on attack and cleared the Brumbies’ 22 well.

        I thought he was the definition of beige.

        • Nutta

          … all of which is why I’m I thought he played well. Didn’t overplay his hand, worked the assets around him and defended very effectively.

        • D. Braithwaite’s The Brumbies

          Yeah, that’s a fair point, I was probably being too harsh on him. He did his job and guided the Brumbies to a win. Some of his defence was fantastic too.

          But just from a Brumby fan’s perspective I’d like to see more of Lealiifano playing with the intent he did against the Chiefs, even if the execution isn’t quite there, rather than him playing it so safe is all.

        • dsb

          Lilo like his whole team played within themselves and just did what they needed to in beating the beatables. Don’t need to bust a gut every week. Keep it for when needed. Smart team.

        • D. Braithwaite’s The Brumbies

          Yeah look mate, I’ve been convinced. I’d just rather thrash the Tahs in the manner that we did in Sydney last year, rather than grind out a victory like this. :)

          I’m still smarting over the second half vs the Rebels though. Hope that doesn’t come back to hurt our season..

        • Brisneyland Local

          There is only one thing better than beating the Tahs by 100 points! And that is beating them by one after the siren!

  • Timbo

    Waratahs were crap. Penalties and missed opportunities with dropped ball and kicking away possession.

    Hannigan shows he is a one game pony.

    Beale was running sideways with a few moments of forwards but not enough to spark anything.

    Mack Mason should have been on from halfway. Foley just wasn’t doing anything, not to mention brumby runner had seemingly swapped out his kicking boots for horse shit. Granted that did cause the first try…

    Holloway was good, hooper was good but no turn overs or being a pest. We don’t have an 8, just 3 number 6s thru the back row. When is that saffa giant turning up so we can put Dempsey at 6, Jed at 8 and hooper at 7?

    Keps needs a clip around the ears. Stupid yellow. Taf was strong when he came. HJH was also silly to give away a penalty mind you how Jackson saw it is beyond me.

    AAC looks slow and with a few head knocks will be out next week. Backline for all its dollars, isn’t worth it’s weight atm.

    For the ponies lachy looked niggly and beast like. I bumped into him last year when he was injured and he didn’t look that big, but man he had an impact tonight. You could see at the last minute he was blowing hard.

    The crowd tho. What a bunch of wankers. The booing and jeering when spanners was kicking. It’s sad and one of the reasons I don’t like going to Brumbies games at home.

    • idiot savant

      Good thoughts. I wonder if the Tahs weren’t tired from the Reds game. Hoops was busy but nowhere near as dominant as last week. Both Dempsey and Ned looked a bit leg weary. Strangely I saw Simmo drive several Brumbies backwards in tackles. Overall it looked like a tired performance. Fitzpatrick is normally a much better thrower. I agree Gibson should have used the bench a lot earlier but it was close.

      The ease with which the Tahs can make metres shows a real difference in class to the Brumbies who really struggle to make metres with their backs. And for all the stick Foley gets he is the main reason they make metres. His speed over the first 5 metres gets the whole backline moving. For all their mistakes they still look dangerous.

      I think 2 Dads is showing his age and wouldn’t be surprised to see Hunt play 13 next week.

      I think the Brumbies were very lucky to win. If they had not had a one man advantage for 20 minutes they would have lost. Jackson is the kind of ref who gives refs a bad name. But I thought he was equally incompetent towards both sides so in the end he probably didnt influence the result.

      • D. Braithwaite’s The Brumbies

        Maybe the Brumbies’ forwards are just better than the Reds’?

        • idiot savant

          The Brumbies forwards are certainly better than the Reds. And much better coached.

      • BF

        Hooper does absolutely F-A.
        Busy? Busy doing nothing.
        He’s like a dog chasing seagulls on the beach – runs around, puffing his cheeks but does nothing, and then people say he’s an energiser bunny F-F-S.
        At our junior training last, night we had a hooper free zone in our breakdown drills – ie: our u11’s were not allowed to rest their chests on someone’s back.

        Wasn’t it ironic the Hoiles gave the golden seagull award to hooper!!

    • Brumby Runner

      Bloody nice to have the win attributed to me, but I have to clarify that whatever amount of mystic power I might have is not effective from the South Coast back to Bruce. Sadly, Foley will have to take all the credit for his poor kicking and his poor game,

  • Hoss

    Well, all is not lost.

    What tonites showing from the Tah’s proved to me was the how lucky we are to have the encumbent Wallaby 10 & 12 in the Tah’s side.

    It crystallised in my mind the skill, calmness, kicking and passing ability and just clarity of mind that we are lucky to possess in Australian rugby. Their ability to direct the team around, control the game and manufacture opportunities all the while with a steely resolve and ice cold constitution remains without peer and Australian rugby is the better for it.

    I can certainly see why Mr Cheika persists with this combo.

    The icing on my cake (and I sure as shit should know better – I usually turn it off) was the 6 minutes of inane dribble from Monitone Ransom, Little Dwew, ‘Seany and Hoilsie’ (never get enough of their inside jokes) with Dwew leading with and i quote ….’the good thing for Australian rugby is the mistakes all came from good intent’. That will do me nicely. You sir, are a complete fucktard.

    Iam a Tah’s fan who tipped the Ponies – so I am right, but for all the wrong reasons……

    • Kiwi rugby lover

      Feeling your pain brother

    • sambo6

      “You sir, are a complete fucktard”

      I wish I had a device on my person at all times that would boradcast this phrase at the push of a button. Although between work and watching super rugby I’d probably wear it out in a day or two.

    • idiot savant

      I am so with you. The Kick On is inane. The complete lack of self awareness in showing footage of their mediocre careers boggles the mind. Do they really think we are interested in that? They really think they are special. Astonishingly arrogant and self obsessed.

      • D. Braithwaite’s The Brumbies

        As I say below, just consider the fact that they’re paid to do ‘Super Rugby Kick On’, that isn’t voluntary…

      • Andy

        They need some objectivity. That’s the only way we are going to have something worth watching. Drew Mitchell is the antithesis to objectivity as he is, using his own words “in the inner sanctum”. You get it sometimes from Hoiles but that’s about it. Horan, Martin and Kafer… forget about it. It’s just sad group of self absorbed rugby wankers living in their own bubble, funded by anyone paying new limited. It’s simply not worth watching.

        If a Australian network could follow the Irish blueprint it would be great. There panel shows call it how it is with very little bias.

    • Happyman

      Eloquent as ever my friend I predicted the ponies would maul the fucktards to the cow sheds and back and that is how it turned out.
      With a flat deck only the ineptitude of Mr Jackson saved them from further indignity. 2 weeks in a row he has saved them from desolation. Still a red wine under my belt and a good night of rugby how good.

    • Brisneyland Local

      Yep pure Foley and Beale goodness there!

    • Keith Butler

      The first 10 mins summed it up for me. Talk about a comedy of errors. Foley misses a sitter that hits the post, Ponies react slowly and allow the ball to hit the deck and bounce cruelly. Hooper leaps like a young salmon and scores and Foley promptly hits the other post with the attempted conversion. And the ffs Kafer says that for both kicks he was aiming for the posts to allow for the wind. FFS the kick was 20m out at most. And as for Kick On or should it be Cack On consign it to the bin along with its self centred presenters.

    • Andy

      If you had to rate Foleys game out of 10 I would find it hard to agree with any justification to give him more than a 1. Every facet of his game was utter shit. He has regressed so much in the past 2 years.

    • Adrian

      Thanks Hoss.

      Bigger the commentators, I do my own.

      An ok game IMO.

      For me the highlights were some running by McCaffrey, other work by McCaffrey, a good effort by NSW pack when a man down, some good work by Beale (yes, Beale), Folau and Rona in attack, and good defence by Kurandrani and Simone. Good efforts by Hooper and Folau Fainga.

      I don’t rate the poor games of Foley (4/10) and the super slow AAC (4/10) as highlights,… just a pitty.

      Overall kicking in Australia (all types) needs instant improvement,…or don’t do it

  • Pedro

    I never understand how the rules change so much once in goal. The late disallowed try is called a knock on yet anywhere else on the field that ball would be considered to be going backwards. Touches his arms, ends up under his abdomen as he grounds it. Adding to the confusion was the tahs player tapping it back in the lead up, which would be a yellow another day.

    • D. Braithwaite’s The Brumbies

      Did you see McCaffrey’s “knock on” when going for the intercept? It went about 1.5m backward, but because he went for an intercept and he didn’t have control it was a knock on.

      Baffling.

      • Pedro

        Nah I didn’t see it, but it sounds about right.

    • Brumby Runner

      A tap back is not a knock on regardless of whether it is deliberate or not, surely. IMO not a penalisable action.

      The interference after that on Taliauli is an offence and should have led to a penalty try and YC.

      • Pedro

        I agree, never a knock on, I meant if he’d tapped it dead, which he risked doing. I remember Folau finding out that rule not long after his code switch.

  • Nutta

    Evening Punters. Random & unstructured thoughts:

    Prior to the game I predicted Donkeys to dominate set-piece and they did, the Donkey centres field to carve the Tarts centre field and they did and the Donkeys kicking game to force the Tarts to play from deep. Tick tick tick.

    HJH should have been pinged in the first 3 scrums again.

    McCafe is the best no8 we have. But Cheks won’t pick him.

    Fol Fingers is the Wobbly 2.

    Dempsey is the best 6 we have. But I doubt Cheks will pick him.

    Tupou is the Wobbly3 and Slipper is the Wobbly1.

    Beale should not make the Wobbly 23 but will.

    If Hoopers dropped ball was given a try then so was the Donkeys late no-try. But besides that, why was it not another P.try for both/either slapping the ball down (deliberate knock on and cynical to prevent try) or running the man off the ball?

    • Timbo

      The Donkeys did push the laws at the line out tho. Poor form by hooper to not question it but they were closing the gap and then there was a chasm when they had possession. Scrum time was a lottery. Jackson let’s the ball come out though so it didn’t turn into a piggy fest. The maul setups were textbook Fisher. Technically however there should have been an obstruction penalty late in the game when the Tahs didn’t engage at line out.

      All in all the Brumbies out played a 1 trick team. There were flashes of brilliance with wraps and inside balls and the offloading late in the second half was All Blackesque, however what wasn’t was the dropped ball and stupid penalties.

      • David Creagh

        I though Kearn’s comment on Fitzpatrick’s line out throwing to be superior to Fa’inga’s to be a joke by the most biased of the commentators. Could not throw one down the middle all night. I think Fa’inga has had three bad ones all season.

    • D. Braithwaite’s The Brumbies

      Didn’t Dempsey play 8? Why do you rate him above Naisarani and McCaffrey?

      • Nutta

        Morning. I said McCafe is our best 8. Dempsey is our best 6. I think Holloway is a great 8 but is stuck in lock because of Hannigan.

        I think Naz isn’t using any footwork in his ballrunning and so is proving highly predictable to defend against. Quality teams like the AiB and Boks will eat him up.

        • D. Braithwaite’s The Brumbies

          Personally, I think the differences between 6 and 8 have largely dissipated. The 8 ranges is a bit wider, but they’re far more similar than they once were.

          In regard to Naisarani’s footwork, I agree he is a bit too predictable at times. However, he’s actually still making meters. I don’t think it’s as big of a deal if he plays a bit tighter at 6. Like Billy V (but to a much greater extent) he usually gets over the gainline when he crash balls. I agree though that it’d be nice to see better footwork – but he’s the only Rebel loosie really generating go forward.

          Dempsey has seemed a tad too lateral too me, but I much prefer him to Holloway. Holloway’s involvements are great, but his work rate just isn’t good enough I don’t think…

        • Nutta

          If it’s were me it would be Poey at 7, Dempsey at 6 and McCafe at 8. Good balance, good ruck mix, good mobility, good lineout mix, good running mix… I would have Nai come on at 60 or so.

          But it won’t happen. With Hannigan and Hooper sureties it will push Poey to bench or 8 at best as a sort of reinvented Smith. But he doesn’t have Smiths ball skills. Such a waste. It also means that likely bloody good 8’s like Holloway stuck at Lock. We have a number of good Locks right now. We could really use a big, hard running 8 in the ranks. But lack of centralised contracting allows this fkn idiocy and will only end up costing us generational players like Poey and otherwise good also-rans like Holloway. Pisses me off.

        • D. Braithwaite’s The Brumbies

          Yeah, I remain to be convinced by Dempsey. He looks more like a 7 than a 6 or 8 to me. Smaller guy that is decent at the breakdown but who doesn’t make any huge hits, isn’t super powerful in attack. But I wouldn’t be against your back-row either. If Dempsey gets back to his 2017 form, then that would be great. But I haven’t seen anything very good from him since he came back.

        • joy

          Poey’s a falling star.

        • D. Braithwaite’s The Brumbies

          You’d love that to be the case.

        • joy

          “but he’s the only Rebel loosie really generating go forward” Cottrel?

        • D. Braithwaite’s The Brumbies

          Cottrell’s class, but I don’t think he’s doing it in tight?

    • Brisneyland Local

      Good question that one Nutta. I thought it was a Penalty try. BUt alas I am no Referump. But hey then again neither is Glenn Jackson.

      • Brumby Runner

        Right on both counts BL. Yes, a penalty try and no, Jackson isn’t there as a referee.

      • Kiwi rugby lover

        Have to disagree mate, the ball was knocked backwards in regards to the play. Yeah he was running back and slapped forward to his running but in terms of the play it didn’t go forward to his try line so not a knock on or penalty

        • Brisneyland Local

          Fair enough.

        • D. Braithwaite’s The Brumbies

          I just don’t think the evidence was clear enough to overrule the on-field decision. In legal terms, it is a higher standard than “on the balance of probabilities”. There needs to bear clear, unambiguous evidence to overturn the on-field decision, or else what is the point of having the on-field decision in the first place?

        • Brisneyland Local

          True.

        • Crescent

          Agree with that. With on field decision of a try from the ref, there should be clear evidence before the call is overruled. I thought it was a harsh denial.

        • D. Braithwaite’s The Brumbies

          Yep. Equally, if the on field decision had been no try then there wouldn’t have been the clear evidence to award the try either. I thought Jackson just caved when he should have stood his ground.

        • Happyman

          For mine it was a try I thought he had control and is a reason why the last replay should be at full speed.

        • Kiwi rugby lover

          I’m not 100% sure but thought if it was an on field try given then it should have been clearer to cancel that out.

      • David Creagh

        I thought so to. Mack Hansen was pulled off the chase for the ball, not shouldered and would have won the race. Should at least of been a penalty or penalty and a card.

    • Kiwi rugby lover

      The ball was knocked back not forward mate. Deliberately, absolutely but it went backwards and that is perfectly fine. TBH I didn’t think he had control so happy with the no try decision.

      Agree with all your other points

  • Brisneyland Local

    MOrning GAGR’s. Well that was an entertaining match to watch. And I dont mean that in an “exciting way” But a “Loss for the Waratahs is good for rugby” kind of way ;-)
    – The tahs did a Reds! They had possession and territory for a majority of the game and still couldnt get it done.
    – Ned Flanders clearly demonstrated why he has been gifted 18 odd tests with only one decent game to show for it, by being a completely below par all over again.
    – Kepu has returned to being a penalty / YC magnet yet again.
    – Beale was all over the shop like a mad persons shit.
    – Spanners blew dog (as per usual).
    – Surprisingly I thought Simmons had a reasonable game.
    – AAC’s Zimmerframe interferes with his game.
    – Ponies wanted that game, and depsite a horror injury run prior to and during the game, fought hard.
    – McCAffery had another great game, and in normal circumstances would be playing himself into a gold jersey, but alas Cheika wont notice.
    – Folau Fa’ainga had pretty good game.
    A solid win to the Ponies. A terible outing from the Tahs. As Hoss said, I am so glad they will prop up the Wallabies agan this year, we would be fucked with out them. Oh hang on I think I am confused, we will be fucked because of them!

    • D. Braithwaite’s The Brumbies

      Couldn’t have been better timing given that article that was published on the “other” site yesterday morning.

      Honestly, the injury run has been horrendous, and the Brumbies looked desperate to get the win. Hopefully we see a return to more on the en. terprising rugby that we tried against the Chiefs and the Canes.

      I’m still horrified at losing to the Rebels. If only Allan hadn’t got injured…

      I may not quite be Hoss, but I think I coined the Flanders nickname back in 2017….

      I think it is getting to the point that the other two selectors will step in. None of the Waratahs’ backs deserved to be in the team aside from Folau and potentially Gordon on the bench, and Hooper was probably the only forward I would have in the 23. Wasn’t it Simmons who gave away that stupid penalty for playing the man in the air?

      I wonder if we will have a Rugby Report Card or a GAGR podcast this week where we have to hear about Foley and Beale’s class. In this reporter’s opinion, the answer is yes.

      • Brisneyland Local

        Probably. Gee Kearnsy and KAfe were blowing smoke up the Tahs ass last night.
        Yep could of been Simmo, but I notticed some big tackles and clean outs from him, which was more than the usual powderpuff effort.

      • Ed

        I don’t get how Jim and Blake can’t see what we see with Spanners and Gilbert. If the Rebels lose tonight there will be reports about how it shows Quade can’t be picked for the Wallabies yet Foley has been number three of the Oz 10’s this season.

        And one of the main reasons to pick Spanners has been his goalkicking – well that was on fire last night.

        • D. Braithwaite’s The Brumbies

          They’re much more reasonable than Hugh and Matt. Some of Hugh and Matt’s claims about Tah players in general and Foley in particular verge on delusional.

        • Ed

          Agree. Matt has been the more critical of Foley than Hugh.
          I have noticed Christy Doran has joined Tom Decent on the Hanigan train.

        • D. Braithwaite’s The Brumbies

          When did Christy Doran write this? Hanigan has had one half decent match for goodness sake.

          I went to Bled 1 in 2017 with Richard and Blake and they were very critical of Foley’s flaws then. They just seem to get amnesia after his performances. Probably just because he isn’t Quade + the 2014 title..

        • Brisneyland Local

          If you know the boys, let them know what they say off air they have to say on air. They seem very biased towards Foley. Mind you they are defeinitely off Beale!

        • D. Braithwaite’s The Brumbies

          Haven’t seen them since. I just had some free tickets I thought they might like as a thank you for their brilliant pod!

        • Brisneyland Local

          Yeah they are generally pretty good. Just thought you may pass on some feedback!

        • D. Braithwaite’s The Brumbies

          Haha don’t worry, I’ve told them many times :P

        • Ed
        • D. Braithwaite’s The Brumbies

          Seems facts don’t matter.

        • Brisneyland Local

          Christ Doran is a card carrying member of the Waratah cheer squad.

    • David Creagh

      I suspect Kepu will be cited and with his record will find himself out for a few weeks. Really it was a red card all the way, fore arm across the chin, rolling the neck and using Macaffery’s chin as a lever, very lucky to still be on the paddock.
      Beale and Foley were just awful, looked like park footballers. I hate the way Beale runs angled across the paddock robbing the outside men of time and space.

      • Brisneyland Local

        Cheika calls running across the field creating opportunities. I call it shit.
        I didnt see the Kepu incident (must admit I was making another G&T.). But his record is not good.

  • dsb

    No mention of Lachlan McCaffrey except in general play!! A beast and man of the match!! Still managed to look fierce after the game finished.

    • David Creagh

      I suspect he feels there is a point to prove especially with Hannigan.

  • Brisneyland Local

    Personally I chalked that try assist to the goal post! ;-)

    • D. Braithwaite’s The Brumbies

      The goal posts have certainly not been a great friend of the Brumbies in recent weeks!

      I thought Kuridrani had a pretty strong game in a match where the ball didn’t get out to him very often. He runs much better lines than Kerevi, even if he lacks Samu’s great footwork for a huge man to be able to dance past defenders.

      • Brisneyland Local

        I am renaming Samu, BP. The quiet achiever. No fuss no flair, lots of hard work.

        • D. Braithwaite’s The Brumbies

          You do know I was talking about Samu Kerevi? :P

          Pete Samu though has certainly altered my opinion of him. Playing some excellent rugby these last few matches. His hit on Foley was spectacular, and I’m still not convinced that it was actually a knock on.

        • BF

          It’s amazing what talent our players have, when they’re NOT constrained by cheika’s boof-head ball!

        • Brisneyland Local

          No I didnt. Musnt have consumed my first cup of coffee when I answered that one. but rest assured I am caffinated now! Zing!!!!!!!!

        • D. Braithwaite’s The Brumbies

          Regardless though, I think we’re in agreement about both Samus. I’d now be happy enough if Pete made the World Cup squad if he keeps this up.

          We’ve got lots of good centres, it’s a great feeling. I’d be happy with Hunt, Kerevi or Toomua at 12 and with Kerevi or Kuridrani at 13 (or even English).

          I’ve gone for some traditional Arab coffee, flavoured with a bit of cardamom. Reading a 1930 travel/anthropology book on Persia ahead of my trip to Iran. Lovely.

        • Brisneyland Local

          Yep we are rih in some positions arent we. In fact we have enough to spread the depth in the some of our easier pool games (if in fact there are any easy ones). We are looking ok in the Piggies. Second row isnt toobad. 9/10 are our weakness as they have been for years. Genia is a shoe in, but I fear greatly that Cheika will not exploit the combo that WG / QC have formed again. and we will end up with Spanners. And with Spanners we have to play Beale as a second playmaker, because Foley sucks ass as a first play maker.
          I have grinded some Arabica up, then added a small scoop of Danish butter to my triple shot espresso (called a bulletproof). Hmmmmm Kwofffeeeeeeee! Is there any thing it cant do!
          Trip to Iran. Mate. I have lived in the middle east on and off for any years. Am desperate to go to Persia. But alas, my work will not let me travel to Iran. But it is number one on my list to go to when I am no onger owned by them!

        • D. Braithwaite’s The Brumbies

          More to the point, we have enough to cover the injuries that will almost certainly hit centres in a tournament like the World Cup.

          I like bulletproof coffee a lot! But may I suggest, Kiwi butter is probably my favourite in the world. It is excellent.

          Your work will not let you travel to Iran? I’m assuming that is a security clearance thing given you work with the Commonwealth Government? I know people with NV1 and even NV2 that have gone to Iran with no issues from AGSVA, even those that have worked for DFAT and Defence. Unless you have Positive Vetting, I can’t see it being an issue?

          Where in the Middle East have you lived?

        • Brisneyland Local

          Normally I use Danish or Irish butter, but will have to give Kiwi butter a try.
          It is a PV issue.
          Dubai, Kuwait, Jordan, Yemen, Iraq and Pakistan on the sub-continent.

        • D. Braithwaite’s The Brumbies

          When I lived in Ireland last, I went searching for Kiwi butter :P.

          Aaaaah, you’re one of the rare few with PV. I’m pretty fascinated to one day hear what you do. I’ve only got one close mate with PV, no one else has more than NV2.

          I was meant to visit Jordan in December, but alas I moved to a new Department was not really able to take time off. Next time though. I’m a massive fan of Wildred Thesiger (and Lawrence and Burton), but sadly the Bedu life that Thesiger described disappeared forever with the discovery of oil. Still, I love Lawrence of Arabia and would love to see Wadi Rum in addition to Petra and Madaba (my non-boring academic background stuff is in history, literature and archaeology – I needed it to get through the boring stuff). Thesiger described Abu Dhabi as an ‘Arabian Nightmare’. He certainly didn’t think much of the developed Gulf states.

          Given some of the places I’ve already visited, like Russia, I don’t think I would find it very easy to get PV even were I not to visit Iran!

        • Brisneyland Local

          MAte I lived in Libya for a while as a child and still got one. It wont stop you getting one. But having it will stop you visiting there.
          I will be in Canberra in a month or so, so will arrange a catch up. I think a quiet ale or two will be the order of the day.
          I have always wanted to go Russia too, but cant.

        • D. Braithwaite’s The Brumbies

          Sounds great mate, look forward to it!

          Well, when the PV issue goes away I thoroughly recommend Russia. Along with South Africa, probably my favourite country that I have ever visited. And believe me, the rumours of the beauty, class of Russian women are certainly not in any way exaggerated.

          But, surprisingly, it is probably the country where the locals made me feel most welcome as a tourist, and gave me constant special treatment. They’re aware of how Russia is portrayed in the international media, and desperate to prove that they’re good, kind people, and so you’ll find people constantly helping you. It’s a lovely feeling. The White Nights in StP are especially stunning.

        • Brisneyland Local

          I have heard as much. Whilst I dont subscribe to the views of its leadership, to visit the place is something I really want to do.

        • David Creagh

          Count me in BLL. Would love to catch up in person.

        • Brisneyland Local

          Keep an eye out. Either KRL or myself will summon to arms.

        • Ed

          Let us know BL when you are in the capital and we can ride up Ainsle or Black. ;)

        • Brisneyland Local

          Yeah I generally avoid the hill rides these days. I am happy with the long ones as long as they dont have big kilss. Happy with climbs of 1500m or less that are less than 13% generally.

        • Kiwi rugby lover

          I’m down 2 April. – Group catch up?

        • Brisneyland Local

          Canberra? I will just confirm dates with the EA, and we will see if we can do a GAGR’s Canberra chapter meeting.

        • Kiwi rugby lover

          That would be cool

        • Brisneyland Local

          In the nations capital, the home of porn and firecrackers! Oh and politicians!

        • David Creagh

          Could I suggest the Ruby Union Club (RUC) in Turner, or would you prefer something more central?

        • David Creagh

          Especially in loose forwards: Samu, Macaffery, Cusack, Wright, Scott Young, Cottrell, Timu, Philip, Haylett Petty, Hooper, Pocock, Dempsey. All better than Flanders.

        • Brisneyland Local

          Wouldnt be hard the kid from the Wagga Wagga U15 D’s is bettr than Neddy Flanders.

        • David Creagh

          I’ve seen them play, they are pretty handy….

        • Brisneyland Local

          Pure gold.

        • Kiwi rugby lover

          Mate I don’t get two things here. Firstly why you need a so called “Playmaker” at 12 when Foley is on the field? I think one at 15 is much more useful and secondly why is Beale considered a playmaker? Beale has never, or certainly not in the last 4 years, made any play. He is very good at responding to opportunities broken play and when he is given space he can react well, but neither of those make him a playmaker.

          To be a playmaker you need to be someone who can set up others around him and Beale doesn’t do that, in fact he’s the anti-playmaker because he crabs across and takes room away from others and he doesn’t distribute the ball well (as in timely and accurately). I personally think Beale is a very over rated player. While he has scored some wonderful tries from broken play and when he has space his defence is crap, his ability to set up others is crap and his distribution is crap. I think he’s a liability at 12 regardless of who plays 10 – and I’d have anyone except Spanners there..

        • Brisneyland Local

          We only need a second playmaker becasue our first play maker is so crap. I want hard ball runners at 12 and 13. Aka Ant Fa’ainga and Digby Iaone Reds circa 2011.
          I agree Beale isnt a playmakers asshole. His strength is in unstructured play. But at the moment he isnt even a bench player for me. And to be 100% honest his off field behaviour means he shouldnt ever wear a Gold jersey ever again.

        • Andy

          I think Foley has looked better with Hunt at 12. So my conclusion is that Foley is better with better players at 12 regardless of their style. Beale has just been shit for a long time

        • Brumby Runner

          Careful BL. Keep this kind of talk up and you’ll start getting all the disparaging posts from Tahs fans that have been directed at me for the past 2 – 3 years as I’ve pointed out the failings of their favourite players like Beale, Foley and Kepu.

        • Brisneyland Local

          Mate they have been doing that to me for years. I think the difference these days is that the Tahs fan are sick of the Tahs as well.

        • Gun

          I’ve noticed lately that he uses a league passing style under pressure. That works fine for short ball but is shocking over distance cos it tends to float. Makes it much harder for the receiver.

        • Andy

          I think you have to have Toomua in there somewhere for his goal kicking. Because if he’s not, then Foley will be an automatic pick as that is the only facet of his game that is better than QC at the minute.

        • D. Braithwaite’s The Brumbies

          But his perventage is lower this year, despite taking easier kicks?

        • Andy

          Yep. He’s been shithouse. But qc is kicking at 65%. That’s not close to good enough. Hence, if QC is at 10, and on current form he should be, then you need Toomua at 12.

        • D. Braithwaite’s The Brumbies

          But Quade would have a higher percentage if the Rebels were taking the easy penalties on offer, rather than kicking for the corner virtually every time.

          In fact, were QC going for the penalties Foley was, it is in the realms of possibility that he would be 75-80%.

          Do we have evidence that Toomua is that much more accurate?

          What we really need is for Hayden Parker to discover that he has Australian ancestry. He is the More Steyn 2.0. Fucking goal kicking robot.

        • Brumby Runner

          And a bloody good organising No 10 to boot.

        • Andy

          You never know but regardless, your goal kicker at a WC needs to be hitting 85% wherever he is kicking from. Foley, this season shouldn’t be the yardstick. We need at least 1 guy in our starting team to be kicking goals at a high percentage and QC has never really been that guy consistently

        • D. Braithwaite’s The Brumbies

          Unfortunately, I don’t think we will have a 85% kicker regardless. But I wouldn’t mind Toomua being 12 and kicker. Quality footballer.

        • David Creagh

          I don’t think anyone but Jackson was. The commentators only changed their view due to it being Spanners making the mistake. Possibly 12 point turn around in that moment.

        • Nutta

          Sums up a lot about the strength of the Cru actually. Also polarises a lot of what’s wrong in Aust Tier 1 rugby from fkn top to bottom.

          Sorry. Touches a raw nerve.

        • Brisneyland Local

          I hear you!

        • Singapore Sling

          Now you’ve done it! He’ll probably burst into flames and sink to the bottom of the ocean leaving an enormous mess.

        • Brisneyland Local

          Yeah I was referring to the 80’s when the oil companies were allegedly good! ;-)

        • Singapore Sling

          I’m a career engineer and exec for big oil. We’re probably better global citizens now than we were than.

          I never saw much to like about samu, maybe I was subconsciously biased due to krusty paying the kiwis to get him. He’s looking like a better option for reserve backrower for the Wallabies now though.

        • Brisneyland Local

          I work regularly for what I lovingly refer to as the great satans, and have done for 15 years. They are way better corporate citizens now. I didnt have my sarcasm font on before! ;-)

        • David Creagh

          Heh, heh…. Krusty…. Heh, heh

        • David Creagh

          We need a layman’s guide to nicknames on this site. Personally I prefer Work Experience Kid to Flanders.

        • Brisneyland Local

          Thats a good one. Hoss is the Keeper of the names. Well the creator of most of them.

        • D. Braithwaite’s The Brumbies

          Haha, not bad.

          My reason for Flanders is because, like Flanders, he is a top, earnest bloke that you can’t help but like – a really nice guy. However, he is absolutely not the guy you want backing you up in a fight, or any contest, really.

        • David Creagh

          Nice reasoning :-) Maybe we should get @Hoss to adjudicate. My justification is that he turned up to Wallabies Camp on Work Experience and just somehow stayed there.

      • idiot savant

        He cannot pass like Kerevi. In fact he can hardly pass at all. He has a wingers (lack of ) awareness of players around him. A more aware player would have made the ball alive for a try on half time. Instead he did his usual glory hog and AAC prevented the try.

        • D. Braithwaite’s The Brumbies

          Nah, in the halftime incident I don’t think he had time to do so. He did the right thing there, but the Brumby chasers should have been faster and cleaned out better.

          His passing game is as limited as Ashley-Cooper’s though sadly.

        • David Creagh

          A bit harsh. Toes ahead, regathers, stands up, gets knocked over by a team mate, gets up again, almost makes it. Penalised for holding on by a player not supporting own weight.

      • Andy

        Top player. Does all the requirements of the job well and doesn’t really makes mistakes.

  • Crescent

    From the comments so far, I am going to put forward an unpopular view.

    First up, the right team won the match. The Brumbies played smarter rugby and made more of their opportunities and the Tahs were lucky to be as close as they were in the end. The Tahs won the Jackson lottery against the Reds, and lost it against the Brumbies. I liked that we saw the Brumbies showing some rugby smarts, adjusting on the fly to reduce the penalties against them and making the most of the Jackson lottery to aid the game plan – long may it continue and I genuinely hope they continue to improve and get their season back on track.

    However, the Brumbies will not be making their future opponents sweat future fixtures too hard. They were far from great, and in my view both teams were far from good. The Brumbies were the superior team, but it was like being the less retarded result of inbreeding.

    As for the Tahs – what a reeking pile of shit they served up on a platter. Gilbert spending more time trying to pull penalties late in the game than playing the ball. May have been a small mercy as he was utterly turgid with ball in hand. I could go through the rest of the list, but I already have the shits and could end up with dysentery by the time I finished venting.

    Too much bullshit and not enough hard work being put in. They let the result against the Reds paper over the deficiencies in skills and game plan, and ultimately the unwillingness to call a spade a bloody shovel will continue to cruel any hope of improving from mediocre to acceptable. I could deal with such terrible performances if there was improvement and recognition that the skills and smarts are not good enough. Instead they hide behind weasel words and honestly believe they are doing good work and just need some luck.

    Drew Mitchells “their mistakes came from good intent” was like telling me eating that shit sandwich was good for me because there were bits of corn in it.

    • D. Braithwaite’s The Brumbies

      Question is, is this all the Brumbies have, or did a mixture of both injuries and the backs against the wall feeling of this must win match result in their coaching staff adopting a defensive game plan?

      Only time will tell.

      Brumbies could easily have had another 2 tries also.

      • Crescent

        Maybe I should rephrase the “Tahs were lucky to be as close in the end” line to “Brumbies unlucky not to be further ahead” to better reflect the reality.

        Whilst the Brumbies have a horrific injury toll, I still felt their error rate was something they won’t be happy with and they were off by a margin greater than a defensive mind set and game plan in my opinion.

        • D. Braithwaite’s The Brumbies

          Were they though? Set piece, including maul, worked despite losing Pocock and Allan. Forwards were excellent despite lacking those guys too. Both forwards and backs were good defensively. Aside from Hooper’s freak try, the Tahs only scored once.

          All that was really lacking was the attack, which I think can be attributed largely to mindset and game plan. If we score TKs and Lonergan’s tries then we have between 31 and 33 points, and the game looks very different.

    • Brisneyland Local

      Very apt description!

    • David Creagh

      You own we a new keyboard with “shit sandwich was good for me because there were bits of corn in it”. I have sprayed coffee all over it.

    • Brisneyland Local

      Crescent, that last quote is quote of the year so far! I hope you dont mind all of using that one in day to day life.

  • Kiwi rugby lover

    Well I just watched the game this morning. Not impressed with the Tahs at all. Pretty poor game and some horrible consistent mistakes from players who should be better. Passing was laboured at times and apart from one 3 minute period where the Tahs did some pretty good close in passing and straight running the play was boring and predictable.

    Brumbies were better and at least attacked the line. I thought TK was good and while not showy I thought triple l controlled the game quite well.

    Not sure there was a lot positive in this game for Cheika and Grey though. No one really put their hand up

    • Brisneyland Local

      I know what Cheika thought. “Wow there is most of my starting 15!”

      • Greg

        The whole Brumbies team?

        • Brisneyland Local

          THat would be a better start.

  • formerflanker

    Why did the NSW 6 and 8 pack at 8 and 6 in every scrum?

    • Bernie Chan

      Part of the Blackadder “cunning plan”…? But seriously I noted that too and couldn’t figure it out. Hanigan isn’t a #8. Mind you, the Tahs aren’t the only OZ side playing guys out of position….

      • David Creagh

        Ned Hannigan isn’t a water boy at this level.

        • Bernie Chan

          Feel for the guy…but pretty much every rugby fan (player?) knows he is out of his depth, and has not managed to be a dominant presence in a Test yet…but Cheika still pick him.
          Why do we have top tier coaches who try to “re-invent the wheel…”?

    • Fatflanker

      Probably a request from Cheika…Hanigan had a good game last week so now he’s our answer to a line breaking 8.

  • Andy

    I hate seeing Beale at 12 and this game didn’t make me change my mind. His decision making as so bad along with his error rate. He really has regressed as a player. He has to be 15 or bench. Simple. I don’t care if Hunt is out, put anyone else in there.

    Overall a really bad game from the Tahs. Error rate high, bad decision making and persisting with this stupid side to side bullshit. Sad state of affairs when it’s a team full of wallabies but that shouldn’t surprise when it’s literally the same blueprint.

  • Gottsy

    Way too many mistakes. This is supposed to be the best of aus rugby but we can’t even hang on to the ball.

  • Ed

    I know this article is about a match between two of our sides, but in other news the Highlanders v Crusaders match in Dunedin has been cancelled following the terrorist attacks in Christchurch.

  • IIPA

    The schadenfreude!

    Tahs lose and it’s pile on time on GAGR once again.
    Surprised the server can cope.

    I was at a wedding but sounds like it was a great game ( to miss).

    On a less sarcastic note, I hope McCaffrey keeps playing so well Cheika can’t bloody can’t ignore him.

    • Brisneyland Local

      But he still will!

  • Fatflanker

    It was one hell of a set-piece move!!

  • Cameron Rivett

    This game went exactly as expected. Almost the entire Waratahs starting XV will be in the Wallabies and only a handful of Brumbies will be but they still monstered the Tahs and were unlucky not to win by more. Beale is so badly out of form at this point, he really needs to pick up towards the end of the season or risk being left out of the RWC squad.

  • Huw Tindall

    The only players who deserve to be in the Wallabies frame after this shit show are Lachie McCaffrey and Hooper. Both easily their team’s best.

    Both sides were pretty poo. Tahs addicited to going wide off every play and Brumbies a one trick pony with the rolling maul. Didn’t look like getting go forward even through a midfield with Foley and Beale.

    The few pick and goes that were attempted met with success. Don’t understand how they are over-complicating things.

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