The Honey Badger
Jim Lenehan (48)
The Honey Badger
Jim Lenehan (48)
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So with all the consternation regarding the selections and how there should have been more NSW players in there because they were dominant at the national schoolboys champs in 2016 (even though that was two years ago), let's look through that NSW team and work out where they are playing now.
NSW I:
David Tifa (Ashcroft HS; CHS),
Jack Ongosia (St Augustine’s; ISA),
Opeti Helu (Newington; GPS),
Nick Brown (Kings; GPS),
Nicholas Frost (Knox; CAS),
Josh Kemeny (Cranbrook; CAS), - in squad
Dylan Pietsch (Kings; GPS), - Aussie 7s squad
Michael Fenn (Riverview; GPS),
Will Haskins (Shore; GPS) ,
Adam Doueihi (St Patrick’s; ISA),
Jackson Mohi (Waverley; CAS) - 1sts Colts Randwick
Nick Wilkinson (Joeys; GPS),
Will Terry (Riverview; GPS) ,
Yirribi Jaffer-Williams (Joeys; GPS) ,
Ryan Longville (Trinity; CAS).
Reserves: Charlie Jaevons-Fellows (Scots; GPS), Connor Grindal (Knox; CAS), Cameron Prince (St Augustine’s; ISA), Hugh Margin (Knox; CAS) - in 23, N.Lawson (GPS), Terry Fanolua (Westfields SHS; CHS), Tyrone Taukamo (Newington; GPS), Luke Osborne (Kings; GPS).
NSW II:
Darcy Breen (Scots; GPS), - 1sts Colts Sydney Uni
Jacob Bristowe (Westfields SHS; CHS),
Dan Matthew (Kariong Mt HS; CHS), - 1sts Colts Randwick
Liam Rasch (Trinity; CAS),
Rory Suttor (Shore; GPS),
Charles Rorke (Riverview; GPS),
Mila Hingano (St Augustine’s; ISA),
Ben Gleeson (NBSC Cromer; CHS),
Tyzak Jordan (Waverley; CAS),
Kieren Hayman (Hills SHS; CHS),
Jack Veitch (St Stanislaus; ISA),
Jordan Morris (Trinity; CAS),
James Armstrong (Knox; CAS),
Luke Rixon (Shore; GPS),
Matthew McTaggart (Joeys; GPS). - in starting XV
Reserves: Jack Upton (Knox; CAS), T.Osborne GPS - 1sts Colts for Sydney Uni, Frank Cutler (Riverview; GPS), Tom Silk (Riverview; GPS), Willy Manu (St Augustine’s; ISA), Kyle Brown (Kings; GPS), William Harrison (Marcellin College; CCC) - 1sts Colts Randwick, Oliver Smeallie (Riverview; GPS).
Shadow Squad:
Tim Anstey (Barker; CAS), Matt Coghill (Barker; CAS), Bo Abra (St Augustine’s; ISA), Sam Ridley (Scots; GPS), - 1sts Colts Sydney Uni Max Douglas (St Augustine’s; ISA) , Edward Fry (NBSC Freshwater; CHS), Ben O’Sullivan (Waverley; CAS), Milan Basson (Knox; CAS), Dimitry Chipizubov (Oakhill; ISA), Bayley Kuenzle (Newington; GPS) - in squad, Byron Hollingsworth-Dessent (Trinity; CAS), Matthew Orpen (Kings; GPS), Charles Shepherd (Asquith HS; CHS), Lachie Day (St Joseph’s; GPS), Bailey McAndrew (St Augustine’s; ISA)
So fill in the gaps, where are these players playing now?
Of the players above, Armstrong, Doueihi, Helu, Jaffer-Williams, L Osborne, Sikimeti, Suttor, Wilkinson, Abra, Frost, Harrison, Jordan, Matthew, Rorke, Pietsch and probably a couple I missed played Australian Schoolboys in 2016.
NSW I:
David Tifa (Ashcroft HS; CHS),
Jack Ongosia (St Augustine’s; ISA),
Opeti Helu (Newington; GPS),
Nick Brown (Kings; GPS),
Nicholas Frost (Knox; CAS),
Josh Kemeny (Cranbrook; CAS), - in squad
Dylan Pietsch (Kings; GPS), - Aussie 7s squad
Michael Fenn (Riverview; GPS),
Will Haskins (Shore; GPS) ,
Adam Doueihi (St Patrick’s; ISA),
Jackson Mohi (Waverley; CAS) - 1sts Colts Randwick
Nick Wilkinson (Joeys; GPS),
Will Terry (Riverview; GPS) ,
Yirribi Jaffer-Williams (Joeys; GPS) ,
Ryan Longville (Trinity; CAS).
Reserves: Charlie Jaevons-Fellows (Scots; GPS), Connor Grindal (Knox; CAS), Cameron Prince (St Augustine’s; ISA), Hugh Margin (Knox; CAS) - in 23, N.Lawson (GPS), Terry Fanolua (Westfields SHS; CHS), Tyrone Taukamo (Newington; GPS), Luke Osborne (Kings; GPS).
NSW II:
Darcy Breen (Scots; GPS), - 1sts Colts Sydney Uni
Jacob Bristowe (Westfields SHS; CHS),
Dan Matthew (Kariong Mt HS; CHS), - 1sts Colts Randwick
Liam Rasch (Trinity; CAS),
Rory Suttor (Shore; GPS),
Charles Rorke (Riverview; GPS),
Mila Hingano (St Augustine’s; ISA),
Ben Gleeson (NBSC Cromer; CHS),
Tyzak Jordan (Waverley; CAS),
Kieren Hayman (Hills SHS; CHS),
Jack Veitch (St Stanislaus; ISA),
Jordan Morris (Trinity; CAS),
James Armstrong (Knox; CAS),
Luke Rixon (Shore; GPS),
Matthew McTaggart (Joeys; GPS). - in starting XV
Reserves: Jack Upton (Knox; CAS), T.Osborne GPS - 1sts Colts for Sydney Uni, Frank Cutler (Riverview; GPS), Tom Silk (Riverview; GPS), Willy Manu (St Augustine’s; ISA), Kyle Brown (Kings; GPS), William Harrison (Marcellin College; CCC) - 1sts Colts Randwick, Oliver Smeallie (Riverview; GPS).
Shadow Squad:
Tim Anstey (Barker; CAS), Matt Coghill (Barker; CAS), Bo Abra (St Augustine’s; ISA), Sam Ridley (Scots; GPS), - 1sts Colts Sydney Uni Max Douglas (St Augustine’s; ISA) , Edward Fry (NBSC Freshwater; CHS), Ben O’Sullivan (Waverley; CAS), Milan Basson (Knox; CAS), Dimitry Chipizubov (Oakhill; ISA), Bayley Kuenzle (Newington; GPS) - in squad, Byron Hollingsworth-Dessent (Trinity; CAS), Matthew Orpen (Kings; GPS), Charles Shepherd (Asquith HS; CHS), Lachie Day (St Joseph’s; GPS), Bailey McAndrew (St Augustine’s; ISA)
So fill in the gaps, where are these players playing now?
Of the players above, Armstrong, Doueihi, Helu, Jaffer-Williams, L Osborne, Sikimeti, Suttor, Wilkinson, Abra, Frost, Harrison, Jordan, Matthew, Rorke, Pietsch and probably a couple I missed played Australian Schoolboys in 2016.
The Honey Badger
Jim Lenehan (48)
Gary Owen III will know where they all are and what they had for breakfast.
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After the 2017 Australian squad was announced the then assistant Australian coach Jason Gilmore(current AusU20s coach) was quoted as saying about his Reds players ”Selection for OUR players in the Australian side is further reward and evidence that the pathway system in Queensland is producing talent”
As assistant coach of the Australian team at that time, shouldn’t he have been commenting on all of the states pathways not just his Reds boys. Love his passion for the Reds but hes meant to have a National viewpoint in that position.
Then he was given the 2018 head coaching position which has now crushed any other states chance of a pathway system to the National side for their players.
Someone with an agenda so focused on their own states success should never have been given total control of National selection.
When the ACT team won the Schoolboys championships and then NSW players dominated the Australian side everyone claimed it was NSW bias that got them selected. The coach and selector in that situation were both Queenslanders.
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Jim Lenehan (48)
Rasch and N Brown were both call up for Barbarians.
Dan Matthew made U20 Oceania squad last year, appears to has missed all selected squads this year.
I am guessing he told them he wasn't available.
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Syd Malcolm (24)
Armstrong - Aussie 7’s
Doueihi - west tigers
Helu - missionary work
Jaffer-Williams - year off rugby
L Osborne - ??
Sikimeti - ??
Surroe - ???
Wilkinson - 2nd grade at Randwick
Abra - 1sts colts Easts
Frost - Canterbury Crusaders
Harrison - in the squad currently- not playing at Randwick this weekend because he was called up.
Jordan - ACL
Matthew - ??
Rorke - Canberra raiders
Pietsch - Aussie 7’s
Doueihi - west tigers
Helu - missionary work
Jaffer-Williams - year off rugby
L Osborne - ??
Sikimeti - ??
Surroe - ???
Wilkinson - 2nd grade at Randwick
Abra - 1sts colts Easts
Frost - Canterbury Crusaders
Harrison - in the squad currently- not playing at Randwick this weekend because he was called up.
Jordan - ACL
Matthew - ??
Rorke - Canberra raiders
Pietsch - Aussie 7’s
There's two of the best players from that year accounted for as why they aren't in the current squad.
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Jim Lenehan (48)
Luke Osborne was in the larger squad but was cut. (he would have been my 1st choice at 15)
Playing grade for Eastwood, I would think.
Sikimeti, is in the U20 squad.
Pretty sure Jaffer-Williams is still playing at Randwick. I am sure someone said he was playing 2nd grade 2 weeks ago.
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Playing grade for Eastwood, I would think.
Sikimeti, is in the U20 squad.
Pretty sure Jaffer-Williams is still playing at Randwick. I am sure someone said he was playing 2nd grade 2 weeks ago.
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Jim Lenehan (48)
He also would be in my starting team.
Along with Will Eadie who is a QLD and also hasn't made it.
2 of the quickest and dynamic outside backs I have seen. Great finishers, know where the chalk is
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Jim Lenehan (48)
Well that's fucked.
I hope the good people at Randwick give him all the support and encouragement he needs. If he stays in the game he has a big future.
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Congratulations to the one prop, one back rower and two wingers that made the starting line up from NSW. Tough for a southerner to get a spot in this side – well done
Also congrats to the one reserve 2nd rower and winger.
While these players are great players where have the strongest players from NSW gone?
All of the below players are playing either 1st colts or Grade in the Shute shield and are all involved in the Waratahs development pathway program
Bo Abra Prop Aus Barbarians 2016,Aus Schoolboys2017 Currently 1st Colts Easts
Darcy Breen Prop ( Aus Schoolboys 2017, Currently 1st Colts Sydney Uni
Dan Mathews Prop (Aus Barbarians 2016, Aus Schoolboys 2017, Currently 1st Colts Randwick
Nick Brown Back Row (Aus Barbarians 2016, Currently Gordon 1st Grade Shute Shield)
Josh Kemeny Back Row (NSW 1s 2016, Currently Sydney Uni 1sts Colts
Rory Suttor Back Row ( Aus Schoolboys 2016, Currently Sydney Uni 1sts Colts)
Bailey Kuenzle Fly Half (Aus Barbarians 2016, Currently Southern District 1st Grade Shute Shield)
Nick Wilkinson Fly Half/ Centre ( Australian Schoolboys 2016 , Currently Randwick 2nd Grade Shute Shield)
Jordan Morris Centre ( NSW II 2016 CurrentlySouthern Districts 2nd Grade Shute Shield)
Jackson Mohi Wing (Aus Barbarians 2016, Currently 1st Colts Randwick
Luke Osbourne Wing (Aus Schoolboys 2016, Currently 2nd Grade Eastwood)
Yirrbi Jaffer Williams (Aus Schoolboys 2016, Currently 1st Colts Randwick
These boys were all members of the two teams that decimated the Queensland sides two years ago at Schoolboy championships. That’s all we’ve got to go off!!! They have all been training relentlessly in the Waratahs development program. They are the best in the land.
How could so many great NSW players miss out?
By leaving out NSWs strongest players does this make the pathway for the 19 Queensland players an easier path to Super Rugby as naturally all States will now perceive these Qld players picked in our National team U20s team as the best in the land????
What then becomes of the Aus Super Rugby program and the Australian team???
The ARU has to look at this selection process a lot closer if Australian Rugby is to develop its best talent from all states.
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Jim Lenehan (48)
Re: Luke Rixon
Was playing League in Cooma.
I did hear he was coming back to play this year, but haven't seen him in any Colts team.
His brother is playing at Manly.
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Was playing League in Cooma.
I did hear he was coming back to play this year, but haven't seen him in any Colts team.
His brother is playing at Manly.
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Jim Lenehan (48)
Pietsch still might be drafted.
I think we are OK for 10's. Especially if Stewart comes into the squad. Lucas is a class 10 also.
Douehli not committed to Union. Good riddance.
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National Champs results 2016
NSW II First
NSW1 Second
Combined States Third
Victoria Fourth
Qld II Fifth
Qld 1 Sixth
ACT Seventh
Seven QLDers in Aus 20s from that squad are playing tonight against Fiji, NSW has only two - a winger in starting team and a second rower off the bench . The NSW boys were monumentally shafted two years ago for the Aus schoolboy selections and the same Queensland selectors and coach are doing it again.
Its obvious that the selections for the Aus 20s have not been based on ability or results - these selections for a National team have been based on geography.
If these coaches and selectors move up the ARU ladder we will have 19 Super Rugby Reds in our Wallaby squad this year!!!!
Queensland 1 2016
1 Lloyd Gorman Brisbane State High School
2 Sean Farrell Brisbane Boys' College
3 Laurence Tominiko Keebra Park SHS
4 Matt Wilshire Toowoomba Grammar School
5 Victor Tualima Brisbane State High School
6 Jeral Skelton St Patrick's College
7 Fraser McReight Brisbane Grammar School
8 Justin Sikemeti St Patrick's College
9 Tate McDermott Sunshine Coast Grammar School
10 Isaac Lucas St Joseph's College, Gregory Terrace
11 Will Eadie St Joseph's College, Gregory Terrace
12 Quinton Mahina Brisbane State High School
13 Tristan Stanghorn Anglican Church Grammar School
14 Willie Malala St Joseph's Nudgee College
15 Murray Taulagi Brisbane State High School
16 Eugene Koorts Ipswich Grammar School
17 Samuel Dobb The Southport School
18 Blake Schoupp St Joseph's Nudgee College
19 Henry Sharp Anglican Church Grammar School
20 Tipene Mavoa The Southport School
21 Harry Green Toowoomba Grammar School
22 Augustus Rangihuna St Joseph's Nudgee College
23 Matthew Collins St Peter's Lutheran College
Queensland 2
Name School
1 Dechlan Day The Southport School
2 Matthew Faessler Toowoomba Grammar School
3 Joshua Nasser St Joseph's College, Gregory Terrace
4 Matthew Munday St Patrick's College
5 Harry Wilson St Joseph's College, Gregory Terrace
6 Seamus Tweedy St Joseph's College, Gregory Terrace
7 Joshua Sheridan Ipswich Grammar School
8 Timote Tavalea John Paul College
9 Joshua Vuta Somerset College
10 Matthew McCarthy Sunshine Coast Grammar School
11 Callum Hicks Ipswich Grammar School
12 Harry McMahon Sunshine Coast Grammar School
13 Len Ikiatau Brisbane Boys' College
14 Ben Simpson Brisbane Boys' College
15 Semisi Tupou St Joseph's Nudgee College
16 Harrison Raven Sunshine Coast Grammar School
17 Ben Klaassen Downlands College
18 Moses Alo-Emile Brisbane State High School
19 Patrick Tafa Brisbane State High School
20 Allan Wratten Marist College Ashgrove
21 Isaac Tarabay Anglican Church Grammar School
22 Isaac De Flavis Marist College Ashgrove
23 Nathanael Carswell Brisbane Boys' College