Australia vs South Africa 8th September

[waiopehu oldboy]

^^^^^^^^^^ no. Doesn't matter how much you beat Argentina by, you'll not gain any points. Should you happen to lose you'll drop either two points (margin 1-15) or three (margin 15+). A draw would cost you one point.

http://www.lassen.co.nz/pagmisc.php#hrh

 

[dru]

^^^^^^^^^^ no. Doesn't matter how much you beat Argentina by, you'll not gain any points. Should you happen to lose you'll drop either two points (margin 1-15) or three (margin 15+). A draw would cost you one point.

http://www.lassen.co.nz/pagmisc.php#hrh

So it's like the impact on ranking by playing NZ. Each time NZ beat us, especially in NZ, it makes piddling difference to them. But we beat them once and pick up a huge boost. Just how it works.

 

[waiopehu oldboy]

^^^^^^^^^^^^ NZ can beat Argentina & SA by any margin & they'll remain on 94.25 - the algorithm is seriously weighted toward away fixtures but even then we'd have to destroy Ringinland and/ or Ireland in November to gain more than a fraction of a ranking point. But lose to either & the points loss is considerable.

 

[Brumby Runner]

^^^^^^^^^^^^ NZ can beat Argentina & SA by any margin & they'll remain on 94.25 - the algorithm is seriously weighted toward away fixtures but even then we'd have to destroy Ringinland and/ or Ireland in November to gain more than a fraction of a ranking point. But lose to either & the points loss is considerable.

WOB, maybe we should take this discussion elsewhere, but just one question. It always seems to me that the points awarded to a team beating one rated above them is the same as the points lost by the losing team. Am I wrong?

 

[waiopehu oldboy]

^^^^^^ correct. That's why it's called the Points Exchange System

 

[Dismal Pillock]

should be a good match-up. Aus will find a bountiful harvest out wide with the 2 new drongo bok wingers confused as hell after a couple of phases and having to cover overlaps. Trytime in the corners a-go-go iHomo.

 

[Joe Blow]

Hoping for a good match. One would think that we have had a slightly better preparation for this game coming off two very fast hard games against the ABs.
Hopefully both TT and Folau will be good to go.

 

[Strewthcobber]

Is it a sellout? Can't buy any tickets at the moment

Edit - nope. Just ticketek gremlins. Plenty on tickets available

 

[ShtinaTina]

I doubt Taf or To'omua are available.

Nope they’re both back in camp in Queensland.

 

[ShtinaTina]

Who’s going to the game?

 

[jimmydubs]

should be a good match-up. Aus will find a bountiful harvest out wide with the 2 new drongo bok wingers confused as hell after a couple of phases and having to cover overlaps. Trytime in the corners a-go-go iHomo.

You're suggesting that we possibly have the coaching nous to identify and exploit an opportunity. I respectfully suggest that is the most ridiculous thing I've heard in a while.

 

[KOB1987]

 

[KOB1987]

South Africa to take on the Wallabies
1. Steven Kitshoff
2. Bongi Mbonambi
3. Frans Malherbe
4. Eben Etzebeth
5. Franco Mostert
6. Siya Kolisi
7. Pieter-Steph Du Toit
8. Warren Whiteley
9. Faf de Klerk
10. Elton Jantjies
11. Aphiwe Dyantyi
12. Damian de Allende
13. Jesse Kriel
14. Makazole Mapimpi
15. Willie Le Roux
Reserves
16. Malcolm Marx
17. Tendai Mtawarira
18. Wilco Louw
19. RG Snyman
20. Francois Louw
21. Embrose Papier
22. Handré Pollard
23. Cheslin Kolbe

 

[Braveheart81]

Wallabies team to face the Springboks
1. Scott Sio (47 Tests)
2. Tatafu Polota-Nau (84 Tests)
3. Allan Ala'alatoa (25 Tests)
4. Rory Arnold (15 Tests)
5. Adam Coleman (25 Tests)
6. Lukhan Tui (9 Tests)
7. Michael Hooper (c) (84 Tests)
8. David Pocock (71 Tests)
9. Will Genia (92 Tests)
10. Kurtley Beale (76 Tests)
11. Marika Koroibete (13 Tests)
12. Matt To'omua (35 Tests)
13. Reece Hodge (29 Tests)
14. Dane Haylett-Petty (23 Tests)
15. Israel Folau (66 Tests)
Reserves
16. Folau Fainga'a (1 Test)
17. Tom Robertson (23 Tests)
18. Taniela Tupou (4 Tests)
19. Izack Rodda (9 Tests)
20. Ned Hanigan (13 Tests)
21. Joe Powell (4 Tests)
22. Bernard Foley (60 Tests)
23. Jack Maddocks (2 Tests)

 

[Derpus]

That will make BR happy.

Powell on the bench offers nothing. Why not Gordon?

Otherwise pretty happy. Be interesting to see the Beale/To'omua axis.

 

[DarkSide]

Wallabies team to face the Springboks
10. Kurtley Beale (76 Tests)

... and No Phipps?

 

[Braveheart81]

. and No Phipps?

He failed to overcome the rib injury he sustained in the Shute Shield grand final.

 

[fatprop]

So the 10s on each side are what you could describe as "attacking minded"

 

[The_Brown_Hornet]

Woah, Foley gets dropped and KB (Kurtley Beale) at 10. Didn't see that coming. To'omua for some midfield defensive starch. Like it. Can kick as well.

 

[Up the Guts]

Would have liked Banks on the bench over Maddocks but the changes should make for viewing interesting. I like Arnold in for Rodda. How long since we’ve had a kicking lineup as strong as Beale, To'omua, DHP, and Hodge?

Edit: Marx on the bench? Any specific reason for this?