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Round 5 - Brumbies vs Waratahs - Friday 15 March @ 7:45pm in Canberra

Derpus

George Gregan (70)
What knock down D? Are yoreferring to Newsome's knock back that caused the ball to go over the try line? If so, you misunderstanding the laws around knock ons. If not, can you elaborate please?
Apologise i thought you were referring to a different moment in the game.
 

Kenny Powers

Ron Walden (29)
OK, thank you. I am enlightened about downward pressure.

So, I did not see the ball travel forward off Lonergan, even though he did not have control of the ball. IMO, ball went backwards and was grounded by his torso.

Fair try

Slight correction to my earlier post Law 22 does not relate to regular 15 man rugby but to touch rugby which they now publish laws for on world rugby, hence it contains the comment ball in hand. Didn't know they publish laws for so many versions of the game, my bad.

Nevertheless I did a rugby coaching course a few years back and remember the instructor saying the concept of downward pressure is a league concept and there is no requirement for downward pressure as it is not mentioned in the rules of the regular 15 a side game, which is still the case.
 

Purce

Jim Clark (26)
Can newsome do that?
I think he may have thought the pony chaser next to him was going to get to the ball and had the presence of mind not to knock it dead. Split second decision, reckon it was pretty good. Luckily worked out for them
 

Rebels3

Jim Lenehan (48)
Both teams need to be considerably better than that to even contemplate making the finals. Some solid performances (McCaffrey, Gordon, Fainga'a, etc.) but generally very ordinary from particularly the wallabies squad members.

The flatness the teams have been playing with the first couple of weeks, disappeared tonight for a very similar brand of footy aussie teams have been playing in the past 2/3 seasons (old habits die hard?). There was a lot of side to side shuffling of the ball, players hitting contact to recycle the ball instead of winning the collision and predictable set structures played out in preset parts of the field. So much play behind the gain line.

Both teams are better than this, I’m sure at least one of them will fix it up. Anyway good win for the Brums
 

Tomikin

Simon Poidevin (60)
Another serious injury for Valentini? Poor bloke.. were his previous injuries in his knees as well?
Hope he doesn’t turn into another Hugh McMenimen.
Looked like a knee again, it wasnt pretty on tv, back and across never good... lets hope his ok
 
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Tomikin

Simon Poidevin (60)
Both teams need to be considerably better than that to even contemplate making the finals. Some solid performances (McCaffrey, Gordon, Fainga'a, etc.) but generally very ordinary from particularly the wallabies squad members.

The flatness the teams have been playing with the first couple of weeks, disappeared tonight for a very similar brand of footy aussie teams have been playing in the past 2/3 seasons (old habits die hard?). There was a lot of side to side shuffling of the ball, players hitting contact to recycle the ball instead of winning the collision and predictable set structures played out in preset parts of the field. So much play behind the gain line.

Both teams are better than this, I’m sure at least one of them will fix it up. Anyway good win for the Brums
Is it weird I thought it was a good game, tough strong... yeah wasnt free flowing but that's because the teams didnt let each other do that...

Best thing of the night, watching the post match, asking McCaffrey if he thinks he will make the wallabies, him saying I just need to make the Brumbies... and then beat anyone against me.. then Rory Giggle that they know he wont get picked.. but he should be 8 for Aus on form... What a gem :)
 

barbarian

Phil Kearns (64)
Staff member
The amount of misdirected passes and drop balls was shameful from two teams of professional rugby players. Add to that missed kicks and skewed lineout throws (all from the Tahs) and it was a pretty ugly game IMO.

Well done to the Brumbies though, played to their strengths really well.
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Tomikin

Simon Poidevin (60)
The amount of misdirected passes and drop balls was shameful from two teams of professional rugby players. Add to that missed kicks and skewed lineout throws (all from the Tahs) and it was a pretty ugly game IMO.

Well done to the Brumbies though, played to their strengths really well.
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I enjoyed it and maybe thats because the Brumbies led the whole way.. But I wasnt think we sucked we both turned on the pressure cooker and that got the errors..I thought it was good
 

Rebels3

Jim Lenehan (48)
Is it weird I thought it was a good game, tough strong. yeah wasnt free flowing but that's because the teams didnt let each other do that.

Best thing of the night, watching the post match, asking McCaffrey if he thinks he will make the wallabies, him saying I just need to make the Brumbies. and then beat anyone against me.. then Rory Giggle that they know he wont get picked.. but he should be 8 for Aus on form. What a gem :)
There wasn’t much thrown at either defense to worry the opposition, when anything was attempted it was played out well beyond the gain line so the opposing defense could just sit back and watch it happen. The forwards on both teams put in some industrious shifts which is a credit to them, but it was all very same same from all but McCaffrey. Both teams were desperately in need of a few players capable of winning the gain line battle.

Tahs desperately missed Hunt straightening the attack also taking the ball aggressively into contact.

Not a bad win for the Brums, they have shown they can attack, defend, grind, etc. their way to victory this year, just need to put a few of these attributes together on the same day and they will be a threat for any team.
 

griffins

Jimmy Flynn (14)
One other observation worth noting - I think Christian Lealiifano had an ordinary game again and must have some doubt about retaining his spot. But even so, he outplayed Foley. But of course that is all to do with the dominant scrum for the Brumbies, nothing at all to do with individual skills or form. On the other hand, Gordon was better than Powell and streets ahead of Phipps, but he must have been behind a scrum at least gaining par or otherwise he wouldn't be noticed at all.

Would you also say Jackson Hope was poor?

Powell had another huge game defensively. CLL also made a number of key tackles. Brumbies attack shape limits the impact of both players to a casual/uninformed observer, particularly Powell.
 

Merrow

Arch Winning (36)
Garbage game won by the better team with the ref missing some absolute sitters and officiating a mess of a breakdown. I actually went to this game. Damn shame.
Tahs were kept in it by Jackson’s ineptness. Brum’s much improved defence nullified the Tahs attack, however Tah’s put on some very heavy hits as well. Generally the bad handling was caused by the player getting the bejeezus smacked out of them.
 

Silverado

Dick Tooth (41)
Tahs were kept in it by Jackson’s ineptness. Brum’s much improved defence nullified the Tahs attack, however Tah’s put on some very heavy hits as well. Generally the bad handling was caused by the player getting the bejeezus smacked out of them.
Just watched having worked last night. Hard to watch. Handling woeful. Foley was rattled and had his worst game for ages and the attack from the Tahs aimless. McCaffery was immense. Congrats Brumbies. Terrible news on Vallentini and Sio on as Wallaby perspective
 

Brumby Jack

Steve Williams (59)
Staff member
^ Sio an elbow injury and Rob Valetini walked out in a knee brace but they don't think it's medial damage, at this stage, but wait until scans next week once the swelling has gone down
 

Silverado

Dick Tooth (41)
^ Sio an elbow injury and Rob Valetini walked out in a knee brace but they don't think it's medial damage, at this stage, but wait until scans next week once the swelling has gone down
Good to hear about Sio. The post game show said an AC injury and Vallentini possible dislocated knee. Good news if they're wrong
 

Blackadder

Desmond Connor (43)
Terrible game. The Tahs spluttering attack continued. The pack got hammered many times and Foley looked lost. Same with Beale. Tahs seem to want to bore everyone to death going away from their strengths of running rugby.
 
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