Refereeing decisions
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In both incidents the referee/TMO used the mitigating circumstance that the player dropped in height suddenly.
If we look at a still of the second one, this is clearly not the case. The ball carrier has low body height well before the tackle is effected. His body height doesn't get any lower prior to the hit.
Strewthcobber
Mark Ella (57)
Must have a good source. Nothing on twitter yet
tragic
John Solomon (38)
Obviously not.
Was in the pub and a banner came up on the tv in the background saying he was cleared to play wales on the w/e. (channel 9)
Twitter now saying banned for 3 weeks.
dru
Tim Horan (67)
Strewthcobber
Mark Ella (57)
molman
Peter Johnson (47)
Hard to argue not the right outcome based on current framework if the categories were identified as such. All we can ask for now is consistency, including both in the citing process of other foul play incidences and a similar application of the framework and other laws.
I do wonder around this incident in so far as the high tackle framework is meant to affect a change in the tackler (the individual more at risk). I think you replay that highly dynamic situation again and again with Hodge and Yato and things turn out rather similar.
For Hodge, I guess the silver lining is that this happened game one of the pool, so there is a chance that he could still play another world cup game vs. this occuring later in the tournament.
Strewthcobber
Mark Ella (57)
Ignoto
John Thornett (49)
I don't have too much sympathy for Hodge. If you don't want to be suspended, don't give the Ref or Citing commission an opportunity to rest you. Sure this one was borderline, but that's the risk you take when you make borderline tackles.
The was unnecessarily high and poor technique. Hodge had a number of missed tackles or poor tackles because he went high in the contact rather than low. I can only imagine he did it in an attempt to stop the offload. But, when you're playing big blokes, you tackle them first and trust your cover to get the next tackle.
The was unnecessarily high and poor technique. Hodge had a number of missed tackles or poor tackles because he went high in the contact rather than low. I can only imagine he did it in an attempt to stop the offload. But, when you're playing big blokes, you tackle them first and trust your cover to get the next tackle.
I think you are spot on, the goal of tackling "ball and all" was the plan (and quite sensible), it was the clumsy execution of the plan that has clear consequences
Dan54
Tim Horan (67)
Yep, and so Hodge will feel a little better as 3 weeks for the Samoans is the end of the tournament for them.
Gnostic
Mark Ella (57)
All the debated "High tackles" would've immediately attracted red cards at the U20 WC and this was discussed heavily there and we all thought there'd be a spate of Reds at this RWC. I was very surprised that at the referee's decision making processes under the framework, but one things really must be noted and that is they have been very very consistent in all the games. That speaks to a pre tournament directive/agreement on the framework. If so its pretty bad of World Rugby to come out making statements about it compromising the referees.
That said IMO all the "tackles" including Hodge's attempt were red straight up under the framework published months ago. A key thing not mentioned anywhere that I can see is that before contact Hodges clenches his right hand and that is very telling as to intent and regardless of the arm action post contact the contact is made with no initial attempt to grasp. Poor action and poor technique, even as the lowest offence in terms of recklessness/intent/technique the outcome shows that we must as a sport take strong action to protect players and Hodge has deservedly been suspended. Cheika as usual with his comments done nothing to enhance his image.
That said IMO all the "tackles" including Hodge's attempt were red straight up under the framework published months ago. A key thing not mentioned anywhere that I can see is that before contact Hodges clenches his right hand and that is very telling as to intent and regardless of the arm action post contact the contact is made with no initial attempt to grasp. Poor action and poor technique, even as the lowest offence in terms of recklessness/intent/technique the outcome shows that we must as a sport take strong action to protect players and Hodge has deservedly been suspended. Cheika as usual with his comments done nothing to enhance his image.