RWC 2019 1/4 Final England vs Australia

[pnut]

Phil Kearns has a lot of balls I reckon. He's been as bad as anyone with all the 'running rugby' or 'keep the ball in hand' shit throughout his media career yet suddenly he bemoans the lack of tactical nous and kicking skills when it contributes to a wc qf loss. Screw him.

Better hold onto your hat.

 

[Derpus]

"Should've started me instead
ya stupid f***** **** ****s."
-Wallabies reserve halfback Nic White

Yeah it doesn't make any sense eh. Genia had only been good off the bench.

 

[Brumby Runner]

Beside Kerevi no loss.

Kerevi was again quite poor tonight. Doesn't have a clue when to pass to supports and even though he breaks the defensive line (not so much today), most of his work comes to nothing as it ends in a turnover.

 

[Derpus]

2003. We knocked NZ out in the semis then lost to Eng in the finals with that drop goal

Yeah, right. We didn't win. To win the world cup AND beat NZ is a thing that has only happened once.

 

[Slim 293]

Indeed, the consistency in selections have been.......... bizarre.

If we had won tonight I think any combination of Genia/White with Lilo/Foley/To'omua would've happened next week, depending on the alignment of Saturn.
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[Viking]

Yeah, right. We didn't win. To win the world cup AND beat NZ is a thing that has only happened once.

SA to do it again this year

 

[Adam84]

Two sides mate - posts might not read well but recognise the forum posted on as we are not submitting ministerial submissions so to attack someone for Grammar, wording on here with mobile postings and all its joys let alone those with language issues means we could spend all day on that - yes my post was out of line but Adam’s post was out of line imo - move on here

Mate, you had a go at me for misinterpreting your post, called me a precious twat and told me to fuck off.

I'm sorry I didn't understand your original post, I don't care If you don't use grammar, but you must know if you don't it makes it harder to understand and open to misinterpretation?

 

[Rugbynutter39]

Fair call mate, how you react to poor behavior though says a lot too.. what's that saying again: Don't try to beat a pigeon in an argument they will bring you down to their level and beat you at their own game.

Respond better to idiots or they will beat you at their own game.

Yeh I can’t argue against any of what you said above - I need to be better than that I agree

 

[Derpus]

Fuck me I hope we get a good proper kiwi in to coach.

 

[Viking]

Fuck me I hope we get a good proper kiwi in to coach.

Who are even the coach prospects?

 

[Lorenzo]

Fuck me I hope we get a good proper kiwi in to coach.

Except that Kiwi pro coaches are used to working with guys that have come up in the best system in the world. Like their cattle can kick and pass, do complex shit like that.

We need someone that can take a bunch of dodgy scrubs and turn them into something respectable, operating under fairly significant constraints.

 

[KOB1987]

I blame Pulver.

It has seemed pretty obvious to me that Cheika’s package was highly leveraged to the success at this World Cup. That has allowed him a lot of leeway with experimentation with both personnel and tactics. The positive from that is that he has built a lot of depth. The biggest and most obvious negative is that the team has zero cohesion.

I agree with most that we have a major skills deficit which has been a couple of decades in the making. That isn’t Cheika’s fault. But I also believe that overall the cattle he had were good enough to get better results. If he had a brief to actually do that.

I sincerely hope that the new coach is given a brief to just actually try to beat every fucking team that we play against. Fuck the World Cup, results there will follow.

Over.

 

[tragic]

SA to do it again this year

Reckon you might be right Seb

 

[Gnostic]

Can I also add with a clean out of the Coaching can we sack the entire Fox Sports commentary team, excepting Barnes. Meathead "Dewy" Horan, "Bad Referee Decision" Kearns and ultra cliché man "He thought he saw a hole" Clarke are sickening. The 12th man could impersonate them in every game and nobody would know because it is the same every game. He would probably have a better understanding of the Laws than any of these numptys.

 

[maxdacat]

Looks like I'll need a new tv....apparently they don't like things thrown at them

 

[Gnostic]

haha, I'd say it's at about Defcon 4 at the moment

Moderator C.Yclopath, seen here evaluating forii combustibilty activity

Not a rugby comment - but that is a seriously insane individual right there.

 

[Lorenzo]

Stu Barnes has been a stud. First time someone on FS has told it like it really is in 20 years.

 

[tragic]

Fuck me I hope we get a good proper kiwi in to coach.

Like Robbie Deans. That worked well for us. Wallabies have been a coach killer for a while now.
Reckon the next coach might be on to a winner though
Timing is everything.

 

[Brumby Runner]

After 4 years of some of the worst Australian rugby in its history, it has all come to end. They deserved to be beaten by 24 points tonight because of their performance and the last 4 years. It sums up the hole we are so deeply in at the minute. New Coach and a few new players is so desperately needed 2020 can't come faster.

It seems like the times of yesteryear where this team was so clinical and well rounded has been forgotten so badly, simple skills aren't there anymore and i'm glad its over so we can start again. I #$%^&* hope they come back next year with a different approach to this game. They need it.

This result was simply a logical progression from the atrocious coaching at the helm of the Wallabies since 2015. Most certainly, the worst in living memory (and that extends back to the 60s) for the Wallabies. What surprises me is that there are still a few posters who contend that Cheika isn't primarily, or at all, at fault. He has been a boil on the arse of Australian Rugby since the day he took charge of the Wallabies, and it is years too late to have him lanced.

 

[CTPE]

Such a disappointment, 40-16 is a real flogging.
Beale - time for the texta, had plenty of chances and many more rocks than diamonds over his tenure. Maddocks or Banks deserve opportunity.
Hodge - not a starter
Petatia - yes for the future
Kerevi - will be missed
Koroibete - yes please
Christian & Genia - thank you (White should've started)
Pocock - thank you very much
Nisarani - undecided
Arnold - yes
Rodda - ok BUT Coleman should've started
Hooper - absoutely but need a Kearns type captain who'll take it to the refs - might be even better without the captaincy.
Latu - yes
Aalaalatoa - yes
Sio - ok but Slipper should've started
Tupou- yes
Uelese - yes?
To'omua - yes but where and when?
O'Connor - yes - can he and Petatia do 12/13?
Salakai-Loto - yes thanks - need more like him.