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Reds 2020

PhilClinton

Geoff Shaw (53)
That is one of the worst takes I’ve seen in this place. What makes you say he has no basic respect for his fellow players? What a shit thing to say.


It was a harsh thing to say but I think within the context of what has happened, there is some merit. If the player he tackled had ended up like Alex McKinnon or worse, you'd be up in arms for a life ban I'm sure.

With so much education these days around tackling technique and the dangers it presents, it makes these types of situations much less accidental in my opinion.
 

Braveheart81

Will Genia (78)
Staff member
It was a harsh thing to say but I think within the context of what has happened, there is some merit. If the player he tackled had ended up like Alex McKinnon or worse, you'd be up in arms for a life ban I'm sure.

With so much education these days around tackling technique and the dangers it presents, it makes these types of situations much less accidental in my opinion.


Are you suggesting that the players that tackled McKinnon did so with malicious intent? That seems like a stretch.

Clearly Daugunu needs to avoid repeating this. This is the classic tip tackle where the tackled player has passed the ball so they are no longer fighting in the tackle so the actions of the tackler are magnified. Daugunu is attempting to lift the player off his feet to drive him back and make a dominant tackle but due to the tackled player effectively being passive in the tackle it goes wrong very quickly.

This used to happen pretty frequently but has definitely diminished due to World Rugby's focus on reducing tip tackles a few years ago.

The lesson to be learned is certainly about avoiding lifting the ball carrier off their feet because as soon as that happens there is a far greater risk of the tackle going wrong.
 

PhilClinton

Geoff Shaw (53)
Are you suggesting that the players that tackled McKinnon did so with malicious intent? That seems like a stretch.


Come on mate, that's definitely not implied by my post, at all.

I made a reference to McKinnon as a nearly worst case scenario of what the outcome can be with these sort of tackles and that since what happened to him, there has been so much more widespread education and rules around improvement of tackling technique that now when similar events occur, there would definitely be an element that the tackler knows they are doing something reckless towards their fellow player.
 

Ignoto

John Thornett (49)
I can't find the discussion we were having about the change in S&C, but I stand corrected. Brynley has moved from the Reds to be the Head of Performance at Netball Qld. During the Reds warm up shown on IG, I thought I saw Marshy. So the boys should still be in good hands!
 

RugbyReg

Rocky Elsom (76)
Staff member
I can't find the discussion we were having about the change in S&C, but I stand corrected. Brynley has moved from the Reds to be the Head of Performance at Netball Qld. During the Reds warm up shown on IG, I thought I saw Marshy. So the boys should still be in good hands!

I came here to post this exact same thing. Good man to have back.
 

Dusky W

Allen Oxlade (6)
I can't find the discussion we were having about the change in S&C, but I stand corrected. Brynley has moved from the Reds to be the Head of Performance at Netball Qld. During the Reds warm up shown on IG, I thought I saw Marshy. So the boys should still be in good hands!

It is on page 96 of the thread :) I don't beat Reg to scoops too often (never until now, actually) so will make the most of this one. I said Firebirds and not Netball Qld so apologise for that mistake.
But it's very good having Marsh back. He is a quality S&C trainer.
 

Adam84

Nick Farr-Jones (63)
normally id say its not good to have a turnover in personnel at this time of the season especially in roles like that, but Marsh and Brynley are one the same, both have worked together extensively with Brynley working as Marsh's understudy back in the day, so should have similar concepts and methods around the S&C space.
 
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Bobby Sands

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I came here to post this exact same thing. Good man to have back.

Bloody oath it is.

He drags success wherever he goes & is seemingly a rugby conditioning S&C coach. Not a general S&C coach.

The Wallabies S&C, Benton, is gold-standard too.
 

Finsbury Girl

Trevor Allan (34)
^ according to the article on rugby.com.au:

"Speight had an off-season cleanout of his knee but trained freely yesterday, while Petaia, who had been struggling with a hamstring problem, is also set to be considered for selection for the Dalby match."
 

Braveheart81

Will Genia (78)
Staff member
10 weeks is the a mid level charge for a spear tackle, 5 weeks off for having a good record I’m assuming.

He will first be available for the Reds vs Sunwolves game in Rd 4 if I’ve worked it out correctly.


Available for round 5 I think. Will miss four Super Rugby games.
 

molman

Peter Johnson (47)
Available for round 5 I think. Will miss four Super Rugby games.


Thorn wont be happy. It was such a stupid action after what was shaping up to be a great game for him. It irked me that he didn't even seem to go back over to check that the other player was ok/say sorry.
 

Tomikin

Simon Poidevin (60)
Daugunus, my thought on his tackle, I think his still fairly new to the game ?? Correct ? Might still not have a complete feel for it..... but he needs to sort his shit out, he can't be having those brain farts. His lucky he only got 5 weeks, but with the Red's talent on the wings he might be riding the pine for a while.
 

Derpus

George Gregan (70)
Daugunus, my thought on his tackle, I think his still fairly new to the game ?? Correct ? Might still not have a complete feel for it... but he needs to sort his shit out, he can't be having those brain farts. His lucky he only got 5 weeks, but with the Red's talent on the wings he might be riding the pine for a while.
Maybe if it was a high tackle due to back technique in the vein of Quade. But it wasn't. Tip tackles require quite a bit of intention and follow through. Pretty dumb really.
 
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Bobby Sands

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Efi Ma'afu signed with Sunwolves according to Rich Freeman on Twitter

Happy for him.

Far, far too good to be 4th choice rake here.

I think he must have upset someone, and Farell looks an incredible athlete - but very tall for a hooker.
 

Getwithme

Cyril Towers (30)
Idk about Ma'afu. Really hasn't played much proper rugby in reality. Played some Qld u20's and Aus u20's but has played only around 10 QPR games and didn't tear it up like some of the other squad members. Not denying he could be good, but definitely not Super Rugby ready IMO.
 
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