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Super Rugby AU Round 7 - Force vs Waratahs @ Robina - Friday 14 August

fatprop

George Gregan (70)
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And Ramm has the boot of Hodge in the body of a genuine winger. At this stage he's a wider squad pick, but a few more good weeks and he might be in the starting team!


Amazing how in one season the Tahs can now have cannons across the backline after years of pop guns
 

dru

Tim Horan (67)
One thing that annoyed me last night was the Fullbacks name. Is it pronounced Strawn or Stracken. Everyone I have ever come across with the last name Strachan is pronounced Stracken. Can someone clarify how it’s pronounced and if it was the commentators horribly off the mark or it is actually pronounced differently.

I'm thinking Strawn.
 

fatprop

George Gregan (70)
Staff member
Harrison is a little popgun-y out of hand. Maddocks and Ramm can kick a ball though.

You can add Gordon as well, to me, the benefit of the numerous solid clearance options is that it makes pressuring any one kicker more difficult
 

Braveheart81

Will Genia (78)
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A solid performance by the Tahs but regrettable that they didn't clinch the bonus point.

The failure to score before half time was probably the pivotal moment there. I feel like a try there could have really opened the flood gates in the second half.

A couple of almost great tries in the second half called back for penalties was frustrating. I think both were technically correct but the first in particular could have easily been allowed to proceed. So many times we would see that obstruction call not made even on review. That tackle was never going to be made by Ready (I think). In terms of the laws, it is whether or not Harry Johnson-Holmes intentionally obstructed him from making a tackle.
 

Derpus

George Gregan (70)
A solid performance by the Tahs but regrettable that they didn't clinch the bonus point.

The failure to score before half time was probably the pivotal moment there. I feel like a try there could have really opened the flood gates in the second half.

A couple of almost great tries in the second half called back for penalties was frustrating. I think both were technically correct but the first in particular could have easily been allowed to proceed. So many times we would see that obstruction call not made even on review. That tackle was never going to be made by Ready (I think). In terms of the laws, it is whether or not Harry Johnson-Holmes intentionally obstructed him from making a tackle.
The issue for me is that they wouldn't go back and review that incident if the play didn't result in a try. So we have one set of rules for general play and then a more stringently enforced set of rules for plays that result in a try. Which inevitably leads to a lot of tries being called back - which is extremely anti-climatic.

It's a bit like VAR goals being called back. Sure - maybe it's 100% technically correct but it's such a cockblock. It ruins what is supposed to be the best moments in a game.

That ruled out Reds try a few weeks back was particularly galling.
 

qwerty51

Stirling Mortlock (74)
The obstruction was fair, it was obvious to me.

The other one was a total joke. They're just looking for anyway to not to award it. Gordon barely advanced and it was for 1 second before he was put onside.
 

barbarian

Phil Kearns (64)
Staff member
BH I had more issue with the Gordon offside. It just felt like the TMO was viewing the play with the aim of finding a law breach, like a miner looking for a gold nugget.

Gordon took two steps at most before Hunt ran him onside. Had he not made those steps I'd wager he is still in a position to score the try, so it barely had any impact on the play. It's a try and nobody would have complained if it was ruled as such.

But if it was NZ in a Bledisloe I'd go on a hunger strike until all the refs involved were jailed.
 

Braveheart81

Will Genia (78)
Staff member
The obstruction was fair, it was obvious to me.


I thought the distance the defender was from being able to make the tackle meant he wasn't obstructed. He just played up the potential obstruction because that was all he had.

BH I had more issue with the Gordon offside. It just felt like the TMO was viewing the play with the aim of finding a law breach, like a miner looking for a gold nugget.

Gordon took two steps at most before Hunt ran him onside. Had he not made those steps I'd wager he is still in a position to score the try, so it barely had any impact on the play. It's a try and nobody would have complained if it was ruled as such.


True. I'd need to watch it again but the expectation that Gordon stops on a dime if he's in front of the kicker is unrealistic.
 

Dctarget

John Eales (66)
Check out this similar but even more egregious ref blunder from yesterday. Aussie Luke is through every day of the week and Itoje will never touch him but throws his hands up in protest and it gets called back. (starts at 3:08)
 

Braveheart81

Will Genia (78)
Staff member
Maddocks obstruction.jpg


Ready is further away than Cowan who didn't lay a hand on him. There's no way he's making the tackle there.
 
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