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Sydney Subbies 2022

Waterloo_Ned

Herbert Moran (7)
Some clubs and players still not learning from the UNsW/Canterbury Kerry flex of earlier this year.
Not many games played today, but surely, surely, clubs can’t be that silly. A loss of points now could end a certain clubs finals chance.
Changing the players name didn’t work the first time, it’s not going to work again.
Clubs not doing their due diligence on players joining at this time of year are going to come unstuck.
I won’t blow the whistle, but I should.

You can't blame Blue Mountains for this one. Are they meant to track the whereabouts of their triple figure player base on a wet weather weekend? Macquarie Uni have to be responsible.
 

C.Dark

Bob McCowan (2)
Apparently first grade whistle was blown to start and Canterbury forfeited moments later, an old friend of mine Steve who used to coach down at Epping said the Epping first grade coach was steaming, can’t blame him really imagine postponing a bay run or whatever it is those Epping latte lovers do on their days off to go all the way to Canterbury only to have it pulled at the last second.

surely subbies has to step in….
 

Waterloo_Ned

Herbert Moran (7)
At least we managed to get 1st Grade sorted out. After a full day of sun today and another few hours by the time kickoff happens, Kellyville Park 5 should be a dream track to play on bar a couple of rough spots. Better than the wicket area at Waterloo right now, at least ;)

Thanks for hosting. Wasn't the best day for us but the facilities and organisation at Rouse Hill are first class. Having half our club in the UK has definitely hindered us, but we will get there.
 

Pfitzy

George Gregan (70)
Having half our club in the UK has definitely hindered us, but we will get there.

So Rohan was saying. Lacking a bit of polish and patience. I thought your replacement fly half settled things nicely but chasing the game at that point, you'd lost your THP and the scrum started to wobble.

That Barker 13 was very effective attacking the second and third channel. Got them a lot of gain line. Their hooker was effortless in the throwing stakes. Lot of young guys there by the looks, with Colts not playing yesterday.

Was nice to run touch for a neutral game. Very different style and pace to your typical Fourth Div fixture ;)
 

Pfitzy

George Gregan (70)
Thanks for hosting. Wasn't the best day for us but the facilities and organisation at Rouse Hill are first class.

It's funny we're still known as "Rouse Hill", but haven't actually played out of Rouse Hill since 2008! :) Rebrand to "Renegades Rugby" is taking a while longer than I thought...

The ground was in amazing shape considering it only had ~2 days of sunshine the last week. I wish we had better change facilities but apparently an upgrade is due.
 
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Uzi1989

Stan Wickham (3)
It was a fantastic day against Chatswood yesterday winning both grades but very close wish them all the best with the rest of the season
 

Pfitzy

George Gregan (70)
It was a fantastic day against Chatswood yesterday winning both grades but very close wish them all the best with the rest of the season

They've got a very good crop of young blokes in their First Grade. Hopefully they can keep it going and get to 3 Grades and, with some other clubs, get 4th Division humming again from 12:50PM of a Saturday.
 

qwerty123

Stan Wickham (3)
Can confirm that I am not Phil Lawrence, but I am interested to know more about him. Having trawled through Drummoyne’s social media, he isn’t announced as part of their coaching team from earlier in the year, but looks like he coaches their 3rd grade. Would seem like a big jump…
left epping for unsw and then to drummoyne all either 3s or 4s. Doubt he has passed smart rugby or could if he wanted to.
 

The Ghost of Raelene

Andrew Slack (58)
I am phil lawrence
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Rae Rae
 

Pfitzy

George Gregan (70)
The other part of Div 4 after some more results have rolled in:

Grose Cup
1 Merrylands (45) fairly plain sailing for the Wolves so far, losing a close one to Epping in R1, but undefeated since. No doubt frustated that of their 9 wins, 1 was a bye (pre-Raptors returning to Grose), and 2 others forfeits (Saints and HAC). It remains to be seen if the Raptors game will give them points as they already got the "first bye = forfeit" in round 2, which was the agreement at the time.
The other two games - at Keirle Park and home against Epping - will go a long way to sorting out the minor premiership
The run home: Canterbury FORFEIT (H), Savers (A), Raptors FORFEIT (H), Epping (H)

2 Epping (40) one win back from Merrylands after losing to Savers and Eaysters, the Rams will ready to launch into the finals, and a bit miffed that their club is lacking game time across the grades as other clubs start to feel the pinch. Will HAC still have enough players for Round 12? The last round at home against Wolves could determine 1 and 2
The run home: Chatswood (H), HAC (A), Renegades (H), Merrylands (A)

3 Eaysters (37) the 5th Grade from Easts have been trundling along, playing rugby and racking up solid wins. With the upcoming forfeit to Canterbury, they're effectively in 2nd place on 42 points. Probably got surprised a bit by the 3 losses to Raptors, Merrylands, and Redfield, but at least they know the score heading into finals, and will get a rest in Round 14 unless they want a trot in Halligan Cup that day.
The run home: HAC (A), Saints (H), Chatswood (A), Canterbury FORFEIT (H)

4 Manly Savers (32) I was a little stunned at their draw with HAC, if I'm honest. They've put out three grades a couple of times recently and will be scrambling for a game this weekend at Mittigar as well. They're already on 37 based on that, with some tough clashes to go, but will be licking their lips at the chance to avenge the close losses to Merrylands and Redfield in Rounds 12 and 13.
The run home: Raptors FORFEIT (A), Merrylands (H), Redfield (H), Renegades (A).

5 Redfield (30) with a game in hand against Saints, you'd say they were on 35 points, but stranger things have happened in rugby. Variable strength opposition but again: a forfeit from Canterbury to factor in.
The run home: Mac Uni (A), Canterbury FORFEIT (H), Saints (H-WW), Savers (A), HAC (H).

6 Canterbury (24) - out of contention, having dropped 2s.

7 HAC (20) their club men have been showing strong form in Grose Cup, but they've suffered for it in McLean. Will they have enough players to qualify a 2nd Grade team in the event they make the finals? They've got to play 3rd, 2nd, and 5th in among all that. Tough ask.
The run home: Harbour (H), Epping (H), Saints (A), Redfield (A)

8 Chatswood (14) the Stags are showing some good effort but lack that little bit of size to finish over some of the other clubs here. Will look fondly back at their wins over Redfield and Raptors as they head to Mad Monday, with a tough run home and other results needing to fall their way.
The run home: Epping (A), Renegades, (A), Sydney Harbour (H), Macquarie Uni (A)

9 Saints (13) one win being a bye over the absent Raptors, with the 2 others being HAC and Mac Uni. They'll push hard on the way home but also have to find time for wet weather catchups over both Redfield and Chatswood, with only one Saturday left.
The run home: Renegades (H), Harbour (A), Chatswood (A-WW), ?Redfield (A-WW)?, HAC (H), Raptors FORFEIT (A)

10 Renegades (13) a couple of losses we should have turned into wins against Canterbury and Redfield. A draw against Chatswood with a throw-together team. Some young talent coming through to play with the old heads, but inconsistent. We've got a good finish ahead against opponents more our style, but then a massive hurdle in Epping following by Savers. The absence of Berries and Raptors might help us squeak in.
The run home: Saints (A), Chatswood (H), Mac Uni (A-WW), Epping (A), Savers (H)

11 Raptors (12) - out of contention, having dropped 2s

12 Mac Uni (11) - they've turned up every week and posted wins against Chatswood and the bye in Raptors' absence. There was a Colts side for the first time in a while, and hopefully they can build from that. They'll look to put up a fight against Redfield and take another win over the stags in R14.
The run home: Redfield Old Boys (H), Western Raptors FORFEIT (H), Canterbury FORFEIT (A), Chatswood (H)

Ladder for finals
1 Merrylands
2 Epping
3 Sydney Harbour
4 Redfield Old Boys
5 Manly Savers
6 Renegades - absence of Canterbury helps here...
7 Hawkesbury Ag College
8 Chatswood
9 Macquarie Uni
10 Northern Saints
11 Canterbury / Raptors
 

Denistone_Dennis

Chris McKivat (8)
Heard it here first team. Our esteemed subbies exec director is trying to get finals series changed from top 6 to top 4. Hard sell considering its been top 6 all year.
 

Prodigy

Alex Ross (28)
The other part of Div 4 after some more results have rolled in:

Grose Cup
1 Merrylands (45) fairly plain sailing for the Wolves so far, losing a close one to Epping in R1, but undefeated since. No doubt frustated that of their 9 wins, 1 was a bye (pre-Raptors returning to Grose), and 2 others forfeits (Saints and HAC). It remains to be seen if the Raptors game will give them points as they already got the "first bye = forfeit" in round 2, which was the agreement at the time.
The other two games - at Keirle Park and home against Epping - will go a long way to sorting out the minor premiership
The run home: Canterbury FORFEIT (H), Savers (A), Raptors FORFEIT (H), Epping (H)

2 Epping (40) one win back from Merrylands after losing to Savers and Eaysters, the Rams will ready to launch into the finals, and a bit miffed that their club is lacking game time across the grades as other clubs start to feel the pinch. Will HAC still have enough players for Round 12? The last round at home against Wolves could determine 1 and 2
The run home: Chatswood (H), HAC (A), Renegades (H), Merrylands (A)

3 Eaysters (37) the 5th Grade from Easts have been trundling along, playing rugby and racking up solid wins. With the upcoming forfeit to Canterbury, they're effectively in 2nd place on 42 points. Probably got surprised a bit by the 3 losses to Raptors, Merrylands, and Redfield, but at least they know the score heading into finals, and will get a rest in Round 14 unless they want a trot in Halligan Cup that day.
The run home: HAC (A), Saints (H), Chatswood (A), Canterbury FORFEIT (H)

4 Manly Savers (32) I was a little stunned at their draw with HAC, if I'm honest. They've put out three grades a couple of times recently and will be scrambling for a game this weekend at Mittigar as well. They're already on 37 based on that, with some tough clashes to go, but will be licking their lips at the chance to avenge the close losses to Merrylands and Redfield in Rounds 12 and 13.
The run home: Raptors FORFEIT (A), Merrylands (H), Redfield (H), Renegades (A).

5 Redfield (30) with a game in hand against Saints, you'd say they were on 35 points, but stranger things have happened in rugby. Variable strength opposition but again: a forfeit from Canterbury to factor in.
The run home: Mac Uni (A), Canterbury FORFEIT (H), Saints (H-WW), Savers (A), HAC (H).

6 Canterbury (24) - out of contention, having dropped 2s.

7 HAC (20) their club men have been showing strong form in Grose Cup, but they've suffered for it in McLean. Will they have enough players to qualify a 2nd Grade team in the event they make the finals? They've got to play 3rd, 2nd, and 5th in among all that. Tough ask.
The run home: Harbour (H), Epping (H), Saints (A), Redfield (A)

8 Chatswood (14) the Stags are showing some good effort but lack that little bit of size to finish over some of the other clubs here. Will look fondly back at their wins over Redfield and Raptors as they head to Mad Monday, with a tough run home and other results needing to fall their way.
The run home: Epping (A), Renegades, (A), Sydney Harbour (H), Macquarie Uni (A)

9 Saints (13) one win being a bye over the absent Raptors, with the 2 others being HAC and Mac Uni. They'll push hard on the way home but also have to find time for wet weather catchups over both Redfield and Chatswood, with only one Saturday left.
The run home: Renegades (H), Harbour (A), Chatswood (A-WW), ?Redfield (A-WW)?, HAC (H), Raptors FORFEIT (A)

10 Renegades (13) a couple of losses we should have turned into wins against Canterbury and Redfield. A draw against Chatswood with a throw-together team. Some young talent coming through to play with the old heads, but inconsistent. We've got a good finish ahead against opponents more our style, but then a massive hurdle in Epping following by Savers. The absence of Berries and Raptors might help us squeak in.
The run home: Saints (A), Chatswood (H), Mac Uni (A-WW), Epping (A), Savers (H)

11 Raptors (12) - out of contention, having dropped 2s

12 Mac Uni (11) - they've turned up every week and posted wins against Chatswood and the bye in Raptors' absence. There was a Colts side for the first time in a while, and hopefully they can build from that. They'll look to put up a fight against Redfield and take another win over the stags in R14.
The run home: Redfield Old Boys (H), Western Raptors FORFEIT (H), Canterbury FORFEIT (A), Chatswood (H)

Ladder for finals
1 Merrylands
2 Epping
3 Sydney Harbour
4 Redfield Old Boys
5 Manly Savers
6 Renegades - absence of Canterbury helps here...
7 Hawkesbury Ag College
8 Chatswood
9 Macquarie Uni
10 Northern Saints
11 Canterbury / Raptors
Agree with you on some points. Think it is going to be hard for HAC to qualify a second grade team.
 

Doritos Day

Johnnie Wallace (23)
Heard it here first team. Our esteemed subbies exec director is trying to get finals series changed from top 6 to top 4. Hard sell considering its been top 6 all year.
Gee how accurate are your spies DD? There will be mayhem especially if a certain club (who shall remain nameless) are done over by the change.

Some early holidays booked by the heavies at Subbies HQ?
 
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Doritos Day

Johnnie Wallace (23)
Midseason player drop starting to bite around the traps. Wet weather weekend + the actual wet weather + illness/injury has taken a lot of wind out of the sails in D1.

Any Kentwell crystal ballers around? What are the predictions for the charge to finals. The top 3 look a class above, off F/A Pats easily slide in as the fourth best team but some boneheaded plays may cost them (much to Eastcoast's delight)
 

Eastcoast

Larry Dwyer (12)
Div 1 will end up being a battle of the top 3 - Only 2 teams can win it. HH are locked into 3rd and the other 7 are fighting it out to lose in the first round of the finals. Just depends which team wants to delay their Mad Monday by a week.
Colleagues look very strong across the board but were rocked by a good Waverley team. HH will go well against both but might be 1 season too early for us to win Kentwell this year.
I havent heard about player drop off at this point but will see this weekend.
2nd Grade- HH will win
Colts - Pats sit top but will choke in the finals like they did in Div 2 alot. Knox are a smokey if their colts dont get asked to play 1st grade
3/4's - Waverley and Blueys have really good squads in both and will be hard to beat. - Only issue for Waverley is how many of their ex-pats go back home for the summer. Blueys are big
 
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