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Dumb comment with no foundation and completely untruePlaying league along with a few other players
Dumb comment with no foundation and completely untruePlaying league along with a few other players
More than happy to give an overview Snort!Anyone have a report/comments on Waverley v Barker? Biggest game of the competition so far and yet.... nothing...
only one dumb comment here.... I spoke directly to a CAS selector this morning who told me this.Dumb comment with no foundation and completely untrue
I could be wrong, but the last time Barker lost to a CAS school at Barker was in 2017 against Waverly. This was Ben Donaldson, Finn Wright et al Year. I think Waves had 5 players in the Aussie schools side that year. It was a close game. 1point margin.More than happy to give an overview Snort!
A weaker than I expected crowd watched a sea sawing game.
Don't know why, many Waves supporters were there, including old boys, but I can only think it reflects a waning Rugby interest at Barker, still, I would have thought they would come given the season Barker has had so far this season Maybe they will go to the local Knox/Barker derby.
In the first 10 -15 mins the Waves were in control camped down in Barkers half/quarter but just couldn't get over the line, final passes often the cause. The Waves did get a conversion to lead 3 nil but really should have been further ahead.
The next 15 minutes saw the Barker machine kick in and they scored a pick and drive try, which was converted, followed by a sharp backline move down the left hand blind side to cover 50 meters and score a terrific schoolboy try. The score 12-3, and there was a feeling that the Waves may have missed a big chance and so really needed to score next to even up the game. They did in the last 5 mins with a similar pick and drive try, converted, and so at half time it was 12-10 Barker. Nothing in it.
There was talk on this thread that Barker would more than likely end up grinding away their opposition, I guess like many other games this year, and win by a solid margin.
The opposite happened. The Waves scored a solid try within Barkers quarter and ran out to a 17-12 lead.
Then the period which won the match saw a 10 minute period where Barker was camped down on the Waves try line and held up 3 times resulting in goal line drop outs. This was the turning point, a dropped ball by Barker saw the Waves score a magnificent 80 meter try which was converted. Waves 24-12.
Barker then scored a scrappy kick through try in the Waves quarter, which was dubious IMO, but awarded but not converted. Waves 24-17 with 10 to go. The game still had plenty of time to be won or lost.
What happened then I think surprised the Barker fraternity. The Waves forwards dominated, particularly in the set pieces, with the Barker scrum being driven back several times on their feed. Finally the Waves got camped on the Barker line and scored a powerful prop try, on the burst by Kye Pule, and that put it beyond doubt, Waves 29-17.
TBH, the Waves probably had more scoring opportunities then Barker, but they weren't all taken.
Both sides went hard, but it was the Waves pack, and a number of backline raids that stamped the Waves win.
As I had previously been saying, due to injury over the season, it was hard to know what they could do.
They now have all but 1 2nd rower back, and they are a real force.
I don't believe Barker have lost a game at Barker for years, and so winning up there is very difficult.
I did say early in the season the Waves could win it, given their dominance throughout the age groups.
Knox are clearly the team to beat now, and deservedly so, and it will be at Death Valley.
Should the Waves continue their improvement, then the CAS comp may well be decide after round 3.
Time will tell!
More than happy to give an overview Snort!
A weaker than I expected crowd watched a sea sawing game.
Don't know why, many Waves supporters were there, including old boys, but I can only think it reflects a waning Rugby interest at Barker, still, I would have thought they would come given the season Barker has had so far this season Maybe they will go to the local Knox/Barker derby.
In the first 10 -15 mins the Waves were in control camped down in Barkers half/quarter but just couldn't get over the line, final passes often the cause. The Waves did get a conversion to lead 3 nil but really should have been further ahead.
The next 15 minutes saw the Barker machine kick in and they scored a pick and drive try, which was converted, followed by a sharp backline move down the left hand blind side to cover 50 meters and score a terrific schoolboy try. The score 12-3, and there was a feeling that the Waves may have missed a big chance and so really needed to score next to even up the game. They did in the last 5 mins with a similar pick and drive try, converted, and so at half time it was 12-10 Barker. Nothing in it.
There was talk on this thread that Barker would more than likely end up grinding away their opposition, I guess like many other games this year, and win by a solid margin.
The opposite happened. The Waves scored a solid try within Barkers quarter and ran out to a 17-12 lead.
Then the period which won the match saw a 10 minute period where Barker was camped down on the Waves try line and held up 3 times resulting in goal line drop outs. This was the turning point, a dropped ball by Barker saw the Waves score a magnificent 80 meter try which was converted. Waves 24-12.
Barker then scored a scrappy kick through try in the Waves quarter, which was dubious IMO, but awarded but not converted. Waves 24-17 with 10 to go. The game still had plenty of time to be won or lost.
What happened then I think surprised the Barker fraternity. The Waves forwards dominated, particularly in the set pieces, with the Barker scrum being driven back several times on their feed. Finally the Waves got camped on the Barker line and scored a powerful prop try, on the burst by Kye Pule, and that put it beyond doubt, Waves 29-17.
TBH, the Waves probably had more scoring opportunities then Barker, but they weren't all taken.
Both sides went hard, but it was the Waves pack, and a number of backline raids that stamped the Waves win.
As I had previously been saying, due to injury over the season, it was hard to know what they could do.
They now have all but 1 2nd rower back, and they are a real force.
I don't believe Barker have lost a game at Barker for years, and so winning up there is very difficult.
I did say early in the season the Waves could win it, given their dominance throughout the age groups.
Knox are clearly the team to beat now, and deservedly so, and it will be at Death Valley.
Should the Waves continue their improvement, then the CAS comp may well be decide after round 3.
Time will tell!
Spot on Rod, you are good. We didn't get to play in 2021 but that is a terrific record, could be named the North Death Valley .I could be wrong, but the last time Barker lost to a CAS school at Barker was in 2017 against Waverly. This was Ben Donaldson, Finn Wright et al Year. I think Waves had 5 players in the Aussie schools side that year. It was a close game. 1point margin.
Finn Wright didn’t play Rod. He was overseas for that game.I could be wrong, but the last time Barker lost to a CAS school at Barker was in 2017 against Waverly. This was Ben Donaldson, Finn Wright et al Year. I think Waves had 5 players in the Aussie schools side that year. It was a close game. 1point margin.
Barkers No1 Oval will never be as feared as Death ValleySpot on Rod, you are good. We didn't get to play in 2021 but that is a terrific record, could be named the North Death Valley .
But sorry there is only 1 Death Valley!
I was generalising. Finn was in that team that dominated CAS selections and resulted in the first win over GPS in a decade.Finn Wright didn’t play Rod. He was overseas for that game.
And they won the year after too with a strong Barker contingent.I was generalising. Finn was in that team that dominated CAS selections and resulted in the first win over GPS in a decade.
That 2021 year was the start of the selection chaos for the last three seasons.And they won the year after too with a strong Barker contingent.
And they should have won again in 2021. If not for the worst lineouts and the worlds worst scrum debacle by selectors. Played a tight head at loose head and the poor kid didn’t know how to make sure the ball got through.
Ahaha I look foward to seeing his name come up in a CIS rugby team then.only one dumb comment here.... I spoke directly to a CAS selector this morning who told me this.
You believe what you want to believe champ... better still go back to your homework.
its not just a rugby problem .. it’s a nrl problem too .. globalisation, social media etc .. the next generation of kids look up to Messi and Ronaldo.. that’s why so many schools only have one or two rugby teams and go down to the Gs inn soccerI think the reliance on the private schools to provide the future professional player pathway needs to be rethought and maybe club rugby should become the pathway. How many kids either don't have the financial ability or a (can't say that word) opportunity to get into a private school that would thrive in a well supported club based rugby system.
As I said in a previous post, the increase in sports offered and change in the cohort demographic means there will be less and less of a pool of players to choose from.
If Rugby Australia are keen to grow the game invest in club rugby which provides an opportunity for anyone that wants to play not just those that can afford to go to a private school
For what it is worth Rod in that Barker game at Barker, yes Finn Wright didn't play but also didn't Luca Moretti, so a few serious omissions.I was generalising. Finn was in that team that dominated CAS selections and resulted in the first win over GPS in a decade.
Yes. Luca was the best no 8 going around. He had a cracking game against GPS in that epic game at St Josephs. 21 nil lead at half time. 21/19 fulltime thanks to Ben Brydon taking out Josep Souali.For what it is worth Rod in that Barker game at Barker, yes Finn Wright didn't play but also didn't Luca Moretti, so a few serious omissions.