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One hell of a whinge from our Kiwi compadres

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Joe Mac

Arch Winning (36)
http://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/super-rugby/5079966/Not-such-a-clever-Dick-with-the-whistle

Not such a clever Dick with the whistle
MARC HINTON

OPINION: I want to be outraged by the Highlanders’ green jersey. But I’m just not. Stuart Dickinson, though, is another matter. Now that’s something to get angry about.

After the shockingly inept performance by the Aussie whistle-blower in Sunday’s 17-16 defeat for the Crusaders against the Queensland Reds in Brisbane, he has again found himself at the centre of controversy.

Rugby at this level shouldn’t be about the refs. Occasionally they have big calls to make and can influence the outcome of games with their decisions at the end of tight contests - fair enough. But they shouldn’t stamp their mark all over matches the way Dickinson did on Sunday in front of a full house. And they most certainly shouldn’t get it as badly wrong as the officious Aussie did, ruining a splendid game of rugby between two of the elite teams in this competition.

Dickinson is no stranger to controversy around New Zealand rugby and over the years our teams have discovered just how costly it can be to fall on the wrong side of his judgment line. He’s also none too popular in South Africa for similar reasons.

He very nearly single-handedly ended the career of outstanding Crusaders prop Wyatt Crockett in Italy a couple of years ago when he penalised him off the park at scrum time in a test match at the San Siro. Later, IRB referees boss Paddy O’Brien was forced to make a public apology to the All Blacks over Dickinson’s performance, confessing in a moment of refreshing transparency that the Australian had got it badly wrong.

He also seems to find a lot more fault with Richie McCaw than other referees do. It’s almost as if he goes out of his way to catch the classy openside with his hand in the cookie jar, at the expense of keeping an even-handed eye over both sides.

On Sunday Dickinson was so bad it almost defied belief. To be fair he wasn’t helped by his so-called assistants, but his calls all seemed to go against one team. At a rough count he missed two obvious Reds knock-ons and two forward passes at vital times. He also whistled up a 12-4 penalty count against the Crusaders that was marginal at best and, of course, made the big call at the end to award a dubious match-winning penalty to the Reds when Richie McCaw and Ben Franks clearly counter-rucked over the ball.

Sour grapes? Not at all.

Ad Feedback All I want to see in rugby is a fair contest and unfortunately we didn’t get that at Suncorp on Sunday. That was a shame, for the match was still a ripper. Such ineptitude should have repercussions. I see he does not have a whistle gig this weekend. Nor should he the one after. And the one after that.

The Rugby World Cup, thankfully, has already made the call that he’s not up to that level. But Dickinson’s rough justice comes at a price. It could cost the Crusaders and New Zealand rugby hundreds of thousands of dollars. And maybe even a title. It is on these games that home playoff matches and the like swing. Championship outcomes can be heavily influenced.

The Crusaders have had it tough enough this year, what with the devastating repercussions of the earthquake, and now they face a man-made force of nature that’s also conspiring against them. You have to feel for this perennially classy outfit.

They didn’t get the fair go they deserved on Sunday, and now their road home has been steepened significantly. Todd Blackadder has repeatedly talked about the lessons being heeded of the previous two seasons when key round-robin slip-ups forced them to make tortuous semifinal visits to South Africa to take on the Bulls in their backyard. I have it on good authority that the genial Crusaders coach took Sunday’s defeat particularly hard, especially the influence wielded by the referee. He knows what it now means.

The Crusaders can still save their season if they’re good enough. But they’ve lost an element of control of their destiny. I saw enough on Sunday to tell me the Crusaders can still win this thing. They won’t fear a repeat visit to Brisbane, and in fact would probably look forward to it.

They desperately need one of their two quality halfbacks and if Sean Maitland can make the “miracle” recovery that’s being talked about, that would also be a bonus. They also need Sonny Bill Williams and Robbie Fruean to rediscover their mojo. It’s gone missing of late.

Lastly, that much squawked about Highlanders jersey.

My initial reaction was to jump up and down at the mere thought of turning it green. Sacrilege! But then the more I thought about it the more I concluded: why not? Blue and gold are Otago's colours. Maroon is Southland’s. Why not green the Highlanders?

The move these days is to distance the franchise from the feeder provinces, and this certainly achieves that. Otago folk seem upset about it (more so than Southlanders, it should be noted), but then I agree with a colleague’s thoughts that if those same folk actually turned up to games maybe their protests would be more relevant.

Besides, it’s not the colour of the jersey that’s important, it’s what the blokes wearing them do that really matters. Having said that, can anyone see the Crusaders going purple, or the Blues pink? More chance of Stuie D saying “Sorry, Todd.”
 

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Mark Ella (57)
I did notice how he sighted Dickenson as Australian but when he mentioned the Wyatt Crocket stuff in Italy he forgot about Paddy O'Brian being a Kiwi. Personally I think none of this is relivent but you can't have your cake and eat it too old mate.
 

RedsHappy

Tony Shaw (54)
Guys, you needn't have gone further than the comments on our own GAGR blogs from Bob D this week and Mr T's Sunday game report: if you were writing the long overdue "Universal and Definitive Guide to Kiwi Rugby Moaning, Sore and Sour Loserdoms, and Ref Bashing and Blaming (Only When On the Losing Side): 1945-2011" you and your publisher would be in absolute raptures at the pick ups there.
 

Bullrush

John Hipwell (52)
Guys, you needn't have gone further than the comments on our own GAGR blogs from Bob D this week and Mr T's Sunday game report: if you were writing the long overdue "Universal and Definitive Guide to Kiwi Rugby Moaning, Sore and Sour Loserdoms, and Ref Bashing and Blaming (Only When On the Losing Side): 1945-2011" you and your publisher would be in absolute raptures at the pick ups there.

I thought you were talking about Bob's own whinging about refs at first.

The Kiwi's who read his blogs, in particular, would pick up some great tips on how to moan about refs. And should we go back and have a look at some of the posts written here when the AB's beat the Wallabies at ANZ stadium last year? Bob actually titled his blog that week:

Referee blunder denies Wallabies victory

Hmmm....seems like Kiwis don't have sole rights to ref whinging.....
 

Bruwheresmycar

Nicholas Shehadie (39)
It's unfair on kiwi's to say they are all complaining due to this one idiot journalist. A lot of them took the loss very well.

As for these journalists, they come to extreme conclusions using flawed logic, it's nothing new. The saders were hard done by a few times but that is it. Every team has to deal with it sometimes.
 

Godfrey

Phil Hardcastle (33)
Have to say I agree. Were the positions reversed I doubt we could say we would all be acting with serene acceptance.
 

Bullrush

John Hipwell (52)
Have to say I agree. Were the positions reversed I doubt we could say we would all be acting with serene acceptance.

As I get older (and after the 1999, 2003 and 2007 RWC exits), I find myself realising that it's just a game after all and tomorrow will not really change much because of a win or loss.

However, I actually like seeing the passion from fans as they get all steamed up over these things....so long as it doesn't get too over the top and ridiculous. Or too personal.
 

Bullrush

John Hipwell (52)
Marc Hinton- what a pelican. Take a read of the first few paragraph's of his most recent article on RugbyHeaven Australia

http://www.smh.com.au/rugby-union/union-news/blues-coach-blames-ref-not-woeful-defence-for-controversial-defeat-20110521-1exqo.html

I'm a big Pat Lam fan and I'm disappointed if he really thinks we lost that game due to Brown's call on that last minute try.

I actually agree with Marc - our tackling was poor when it counted as was some of the decision-making.

I'm sure Pat Lam knows that as well.
 

farva

Vay Wilson (31)
A bit of payback for the disallowed Haig Sare try back in the 2006 Force v Sadists clash when the Force were denied a maiden victory due to poor reffing.

Not that I remember stuff like that...
 

Joe Mac

Arch Winning (36)
Did you not read the Article?? - Hinton is making the point that the referee was NOT to blame and that Pat Lam should just suck it up.

That is point "Topbloke" only two weeks ago he was telling Pat Lam to stop blaming the ref and now he is doing it himself...

I have edited the above post to make my point even more obvious
 

Victorian Reds Fan

Bob Loudon (25)
As I get older (and after the 1999, 2003 and 2007 RWC exits), I find myself realising that it's just a game after all and tomorrow will not really change much because of a win or loss.

However, I actually like seeing the passion from fans as they get all steamed up over these things....so long as it doesn't get too over the top and ridiculous. Or too personal.

I thought for most NZs it was basically a religion?
 

ACT Crusader

Jim Lenehan (48)
Not everyone in NZ watches or even likes rugby. In fact there are some parts in particularly in South AKL that there is a considerable majority that love league and don't even blink about the ABs
 

MajorlyRagerly

Trevor Allan (34)
I thought for most NZs it was basically a religion?

Thats the big misconception there VRF. I thought we were too, and then I moved to England & bumped into European Football fans. In my time in England, I also met lots of people from Victoria - and then I discovered AFL fans.

I've met very very few NZ rugby fans who display as much passion as these guys. We care, we love it & we are fans - but I can't help but feel we are more or less ambivalent beside other sporting codes.

AS for the journo - meh. I've read enough shitty whinging moaning articles by the Aussie rugby press to not tar you all with the same brush & I'd expect the same in return.
 

Bullrush

John Hipwell (52)
I thought for most NZs it was basically a religion?

Well maybe but I have discovered that I probably care a lot more rugby than it does about me so I treat it a lot like I do religon.....I'll go to church and some of the big events - but I'm not letting it run my life :)
 
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StonerJack

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"The Rugby World Cup, thankfully, has already made the call that he’s not up to that level. But Dickinson’s rough justice comes at a price. It could cost the Crusaders and New Zealand rugby hundreds of thousands of dollars. And maybe even a title. It is on these games that home playoff matches and the like swing. Championship outcomes can be heavily influenced.

The Crusaders have had it tough enough this year, what with the devastating repercussions of the earthquake, and now they face a man-made force of nature that’s also conspiring against them. You have to feel for this perennially classy outfit."

Did he really say that?! How the hell can this guy compare Dickheadson to the Christchurch earthquake? He's off his head.

Also if Dickheadson and this loss to the Reds is the reason the Crusaders don't win the Super 15 title and lose "hundreds of thousands of dollars" in the process then they should have played harder in the finals. What a knob.
 
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