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Tri Nations Game 6 - Wallabies vs All Blacks - Saturday 27 August 2011 - 3N2011

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tallboy

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A couple of things I took out of tonight.... Firstly, when rugby is played physically, quickly and at genuine test match intensity it is just awesome. Secondly, I enjoy reading these forums so much more when the negativity is a bit subdued. Vitriolic player hating statements are gone and we can enjoy a success and roll on to the WC.
No one's going to get ahead of themselves but this showed that what Robbie has been building towards is something real.

Wallaby passion and pride...... more of the same come sept please.
 
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Zeno

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I don't have a recording to check but I think Dan Vickerman took a knee to the back of the head while he was getting up from a ruck. He was taken off a couple of minutes later.
 

dudebudstud

Ward Prentice (10)
Great game by the Wallabies, but I am worried about a few things. The Wallabies did this in last year's Tri-nations as well - They get out to a big lead in the first half then try to cruise through the second half. If I remember correctly in a couple games last year they put three or four tries on the Boks and ABs before falling apart in the second half. If they can play the full 80 or even have 60 mins of full intensity they will be unstoppable.

The other thing that worries me is Quade's tackling, or more precisely his tendancy to give up in a tackle. I think he did it in a Super Rugby game where someone scored a try and Quade cut them off in goal but instead of tackling him Quade just let him cut towards the center and ground the ball under the post.

Same thing with Nonu's try. Sure, there was no way Quade would have stopped Nonu at full pace, and Nonu had the step on him, but if you look closely, Quade didn't even make an effort and let Nonu get by unimpeded.
 
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OLDDOG

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wot i liked about this game was that the wbs presented threats from everywhere. sure quade didnt scythe thru, but genia , samo et al did, and thats wot caught the abs out.....but take your eye off quade and look out he'll carve you up again. we now have so many x factor players - i love it! just didnt enjoy seeing the abs slowly get back into the game, but the lads had clearly almost tackled and ran themselves to a standstill. wud be a good tactic for us to adopt if we get a big lead again in the future and tire- just keep the frikkin ball for heaps of phases and wait for the inevitable crack to appear....very savvy from the abs.
 

qwerty51

Stirling Mortlock (74)
I don't have a recording to check but I think Dan Vickerman took a knee to the back of the head while he was getting up from a ruck. He was taken off a couple of minutes later.

I reckon Vickerman is directly responsible for injuring all 3 Kiwi backrowers in the 1st half (in a legal way of course) through his immense ruck hitting.
 

Jethro Tah

Bob Loudon (25)
Is rugby all about the breakdown? It would seem so, after tonight.

That was certainly where the game was won and lost, plus a Samo 60 metre run and a try saver or two from Ant and AAC (Adam Ashley-Cooper).

How great was it to see the Wallaby forwards play to their potential. The speed and numbers to the breakdown was awesome and created great go forward for Genia to work with. In defense, the Wallaby forwards rattled the ABs causing them to lose their composure. And what a luxury to think we have Palu, TPN and Slipper waiting in the wings.

I thought Quade and Beale both had ho-hum nights - not their best but still good enough to ensure the points were scored off the platform put down by players 1 to 9. I really think any mix of the run on backs tonight plus JOC (James O'Connor), Shmoo, Barnes, Horne would have come up with the same result. But saying that, special mention to Ant and AAC (Adam Ashley-Cooper) for their defense.

Well done lads. Bring on Bill.
 

Lee Grant

John Eales (66)
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Terrific game where both sets of fans had highs and lows.

• Oz were out-coached at Eden Park but it was the other way around in the 1st half as the Blacks dropped ball after ball when they dished it wide in greasy conditions. They got it right by going narrow in the 2nd half. It was a no brainer, and it was disturbing how something so obvious could not be defended by Oz.

The Ireland coaches will have a few notes on that. They could play that game against us even if it is dry, with the brilliant SOB making a few long runs every now and then.

• The scrum was found out. Myth kept denying right shoulder to Alexander and sometimes drove through him. I can't wait until Slipper gets up to speed and can start with Kepu - that's if Deans calls it that way, since he seems to have some man-love for Benny. I am not so worried about the mistakes in the lineout. The individuals are technically proficient; so the errors are more easily fixed.

• I was concerned about the shape of the Oz backline before the game but they played the greasy conditions better than the Kiwis. The man for all seasons, AAC (Adam Ashley-Cooper), was made for this game and the no-frills midfield thrived on attacking defence except when the Oz forwards went missing in the 3rd quarter.

• The Samo try will still be shown a hundred years from now with other favourites such as the Horan try, also against the Blacks, at the 1991 RWC. His rugby story will form a small part of Wallaby history too, and if we bring Bill back – it will be part of a legend.

• Vito was terrific for the Blacks in their narrow game of the 2nd half. Coaches love players who are not that big on the scales, but play big. The Blacks midfield was dangerous in the 3rd quarter and I thought then that they would have the winning of the match. Little Kev played well and when he wasn't tripping Wallabies A. Williams played well of the bench.

Did Corey Jane actually play? Can't remember him – no, that's right: he tackled Samo on the line, I think.

• I thought referee Barnes had a fine game, give or take a few things others saw too, and much superior to B. Lawrence in Durban, but players from both sides, including Vickerman and Moore from Oz, should feel lucky that they weren't pinged for attacking rucks with their shoulders. Kepu continues to be a goose sometimes: tried to pull down a maul right in front of the ref but fortunately did not succeed.

• Am stoked that the Wallabies came right back after the Blacks 2nd try, as NZ did after Elsom's try at Eden Park, and that the Wallabies have won 3N, but, in a way, I'm even more stoked that they have played two good test matches in a row against top opponents.
 

Scotty

David Codey (61)
I also think that mccalman deserves mention for his impact off the bench. Along with pocock he turned around the dominance that the abs had built at breakdown at that time. Samo should have probably been subbed 5-10 earlier.
 

Reido

Sydney Middleton (9)
I've mentioned It in a reffing analysis before, the wallabies favourite Referee should be Wayne Barnes
The Wallabies have a great record when Barnes is officiating. He does seem extremely fair and consistent. I don't recall the Wallabies losing too many games with him in charge over the past few years. Does anyone have the win/loss ratio under him?
 

rugbyisfun

Jimmy Flynn (14)
A RUGBY World Cup loss won't be the end of the world for New Zealand footie fans, says ex-All Blacks captain and 1987 Cup winner Sean Fitzpatrick.

The legendary hooker, a Government-appointed RWC ambassador, said the Christchurch earthquake and Pike River mining disaster had put the importance of an All Blacks victory into context.

"What happened in Christchurch, the mining disaster and what has happened in Australia [floods] and Japan [earthquake/tsunami] have definitely had an effect on how we are looking at the World Cup," Fitzpatrick said at last week's launch of the Heroes Rugby Challenge in London, raising money for soldiers injured in action.
 

vidiot

John Solomon (38)
I also think that mccalman deserves mention for his impact off the bench. Along with pocock he turned around the dominance that the abs had built at breakdown at that time. Samo should have probably been subbed 5-10 earlier.

Samo looked to have blown up after his try, and he wasn't the only wallaby forward to completely spend themselves going at it. Just love that they (the wallabies) figured this out - there is no such thing as a canter in a game against the ABs if you want to stay in the race.

Having a pack that empties their tank thrashing the breakdown for the first 40 put them in a great position, and Deans is going to have to learn to use his subs when they inevitably hit the wall.
 

Reddy!

Bob Davidson (42)
You gotta ask yourself...how Matt Giteau would be feeling right now! Never won any big trophy's with the Wallabies...
 

Willin1

Allen Oxlade (6)
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Last year I picked Wallabies to win WC and they seem to be tracking nicely towards an epic final with the AB's.
Hopefully then the AB's can make up for getting well and truley thumped last night! That first half had me cringing.
Despite his talents, Cooper's brain fade show's how much of a petulent twat he can be. I'm surprised I haven't seen more discussion on Gitteau (sp?). He might have had an indifferent super season but most of us Kiwi's can't understand why he's not the squad. What's up there?
As for Genia....... The world's best halfback by a country mile.
 

Lee Grant

John Eales (66)
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Am I right in saying that NZ would have won 3N if they had scored an unconverted try before the siren because of for and against? I was thinking that at the end but no commentator mentioned it; so I thought I must have been wrong.
 
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