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SA vs Aus - SA cricket Tour 2011

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Lindommer

Steve Williams (59)
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Did I read this right: Saffers all out for 96? F U Watson reaped 5 wickets for 17 runs? What's the world coming to? Useless bastard couldn't take a hat-trick, sack him!

Absolutely imperative now Australia bat for two days, they simply must make the Saffers bat about lunch time, or shortly after, on day 4. Let's see how our latest spinner shapes up.
 

Swarley

Bob Loudon (25)
22-9. The lowest total ever in test cricket. Need for more runs to beat NZ's 1955 grand total of 26. Fuck.
 

Swarley

Bob Loudon (25)
28-9. Not the worst innings ever anymore! Huzzah!

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So all out for 47. Still 29 overs to go today. Lyon and Siddle the only 'batsmen' to make double digit scores. I've never seen anything like it.
 

Moses

Simon Poidevin (60)
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Great day of cricket, love it when the bowlers are on top... how different it could have been if we'd dismissed them for 2 fewer runs and enforced the follow-on!
Pitch didn't look that bad to me (though I haven't seen the Aussie innings), Watson bowled a good line and length with some swing. Good spell, but not 5/15 good.

and this......
Harris to Amla, no run, a catch has been dropped off the final ball of the day! The ball was full and wide and Amla had a real go at it, wanting to end the day emphatically. He drove it hard but in the air and straight to Hussey. The ball flew to him at stomach height and he dropped it
 

AngrySeahorse

Peter Sullivan (51)
I've been watching the test cricket, like others I'm shocked at whats happening but that I believe is what 20/20 mentality has done to cricket players everywhere. Too much "lets go all ADHD & smack the ball for 6 obsession" and not enough "ok I'm looking to use all my cunning & skills to hang out there as long as possible and build a decent score" mentality. Of course it could be good bowling or just the pitch & not the batters but I still think 20/20 is involved here.

I'm only in my late 20s but test cricket is always the best form for mine. On the positive side either team could win it now although I'd put us just ahead.
 

Swarley

Bob Loudon (25)
I'm with you Angry. I think Haddin's dismissal is a perfect example of that. It was a shocking attempt at a slog and it cost him dearly. Don't they know that Tests go for 5 days? Plenty of time to slow things down and build up a reasonable score but the T20 mentality has ruined that. I don't think it's just the pitch- SA are currently 1/81.

On another note, Hughes' technique still has some major flaws. His dismissal was embarrassing. Get Khawaja in there ASAP.
 

AngrySeahorse

Peter Sullivan (51)
Agree, on all points angry, and we're the same age... are you my alter ego?

Lol, can you have a female as an alter ego?

I'm with you Angry. I think Haddin's dismissal is a perfect example of that. It was a shocking attempt at a slog and it cost him dearly. Don't they know that Tests go for 5 days? Plenty of time to slow things down and build up a reasonable score but the T20 mentality has ruined that. I don't think it's just the pitch- SA are currently 1/81.

On another note, Hughes' technique still has some major flaws. His dismissal was embarrassing. Get Khawaja in there ASAP.

Agree. I actually like Hadden and Hughes. Hadden has shown that when he concentrates he can put together a solid innings. Hughes is a real talent but just hasnt learnt to add some orthodoxy to his batting at test level and thats where he is getting found out, it wasnt too long ago he was belting SA all over the park but I think everyones onto him now. He either has to adapt soon or die. I remember Khawjaja in the ashes, whilst he didnt get a huge score I was impressed with his patience and shot selection, he does deserve another go for sure.
 

RugbyReg

Rocky Elsom (76)
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My team for the first test in Brisbane.

1 Michael Hussey
2 David Warner
3 Usman Kwajha (spelling?)
4 Michael Clarke
5 George Bailey
6 Shane Watson
7 Tim Paine
8 Ben Cutting
9 Ryan Harris
10 Trent Copeland.
11 Patrick Cummins

Need to firm up these openers though. Chris Lynn will be close once he's back on the field.
 

light

Peter Fenwicke (45)
I'd have.
Katich - Get over the hate for your captain and play for your country, you have talent most of us wish we could have, use it to silence the critics, not the media.
Warner - Averaging over 60 in first class cricket, can put us on the front foot from the first ball.
Khawaja - Looked promising previously, Ponting should be shown the door averaging just 18 runs per innings in the last year.
Hussey - Number 4 is his spot, no lower, no higher. Mr Cricket has his critics but he is a proven performer who will find his touch.
Clarke - Captain and our best batsman
Watson - Needs to be lower in the order although due to stubbornness of CA looks unlikely. He's a class player and will find form soon.
Paine - Our future keeper, can bat too. Haddin looks lost and confused at the crease, may be a year past his use by date.
Copeland - Johnson should be binned forever, Copeland looks promising when given the chance
Harris - Our best bowler behind Watson
Pattinson - Young up and comer, worth trying as we have nothing else. Spinner could be useful too
Cummins - same deal as Pattinson

Please, use the axe cricket australia, we have had enough of under-performing players. If you are fair dinkum about improving our reputation and ranking you need to get rid of the guys dragging the chain and look to the future.
 

RugbyReg

Rocky Elsom (76)
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Has Kat got runs since he's been dropped? He's got wickets I know, and whinged a fair bit but has he scored runs?
 

Cutter

Nicholas Shehadie (39)
Maybe not the right place, but close enough...An hilarious, and insightful, article from Stuart MacGill. I've always liked MacGill. I met him at a charity event once. He hung around afterwards and had a beer (joined our shout in fact) and was good fun.

http://www.smh.com.au/sport/cricket...ne-to-panel-20111112-1ncu9.html#ixzz1dVQaxbT8

Bichel selection adds needed spine to panel
Stuart MacGill
November 13, 2011

The recent Australian Team Performance Review, chaired by Don Argus, described the need for our new full-time national selector to function as ''the HR manager'' of Australian cricket.

In appointing John Inverarity to that role, James Sutherland would be pleased to know that he's proved many of us, myself included, wrong. Apparently, the chief executive of Cricket Australia actually does have the capacity to take advice.

I was contracted for almost a decade, and throughout that period players would regularly complain that they had been overlooked by selectors despite their great form, or had been dropped without warning because of a personal vendetta by captain/coach/chairman of selectors (take your pick; that's what most players did).

Every year without fail, regardless of whether they were on the way up or on the way out, players would scream for higher levels of communication with the selection panel.

John Inverarity is not everybody's cup of tea, and at almost 68 years old some might question his suitability for the role of national selector. However there is no doubt he will open and enjoy dialogue with as many of Australia's cricketing elite as he can possibly reach.

It's just as well we've finally put this perceived communication problem to bed, because it means we've crossed one more excuse off the list.

The only time I wanted to talk to a selector about my cricket was when I was bowling well. On the way up. How could a conversation between a jilted or out-of-form player and a selector ever work out the way the player wanted it to?

''Oh, I see your point Stuart; let's just go into the umpires' room and change the starting XI for this Test because leaving you out was clearly an oversight.''

Let's face it, most players nowadays need a serious dose of reality. Not the kind that you see on MasterChef, I mean real reality.

Perhaps instead of academic Inverarity (having had successful careers in both secondary and tertiary education in Western Australia), Australian cricket will ultimately be better served by his fellow national selector Andy Bichel, poster boy for the School of Hard Knocks graduate program. Having played with and against Andy for most of my cricket career, I have absolutely no doubt that this is the first truly great appointment of the Sutherland era. Cricket Australia should have made Bichel, 41, the main man, instead of Inverarity.

Cricket Australia needs to gather up its contracted players, along with anybody else they think has a chance of playing or coaching professional cricket, and invite them to spend a day with Andy Bichel.

''Bick'' can tell them about his development, which included working hard on and off the sporting field, as a footballer, a cricket player and a tradesman. Then he can talk about the injuries, about playing through them, causing them and finally succumbing to them.

Finally, I suggest they listen to how he dealt with disappointment.

Two weeks after being told he'd lost his Australian contract (coincidentally following a year of achievements similar to those of Simon Katich), Andy phoned me. He'd been left scratching his head by the selectors but never once showed signs of anger or contempt and was actually calling to make sure I was OK (SKW had just returned from suspension). I knew that anyone who faced him in domestic cricket when he returned would probably see a different side of him. That's the way a true competitor shows they're disappointed.

The review contains some very clear guidelines for Bick and his national selection panel colleagues. Try not to choke on your Corn Flakes when you read them.

''Players must earn their positions in the time-honoured way of making runs, taking wickets and showing that they are ready to play at the next level'' and ''must be held accountable when they are not performing. This has been an issue in recent years''.

Thank God the performance review team of Argus, Mark Taylor, Allan Border and Steve Waugh communicated this so clearly so our outgoing selection panel know why they've been dropped.
 

tigerland12

John Thornett (49)
1- Shaun Marsh
2- Shane Watson
3- Usman Khwaja
4- Michael Clarke
5- Michael Hussey
6- Mitchell Marsh
7- Tim Paine
8- Nathan Hauritz
9- Ryan Harris
10- Mitchell Starc
11- Cummins

That's my side if everyone is fit ( i know Paine, Starc and now Marsh are injured). Hauritz never should of been dropped in the first place. Mitch Marsh is a fucking talent as is Usman Khwaja.

I liked the look of Starc before he got injured (unfourtunatly very injury prone like Shaun Marsh), and Cummins offers alot more then the other quicks we have, aside from Harris.
 

PaarlBok

Rod McCall (65)
Meanwhile Warner joined the Aussie sqaud. Memoriable win by SA in the first test. Excellent bowling by Philander, a man not many Saffers knew before this test. He has been in and out the Cape Cobra (Boland and WP) side. S Conrad the x Cobra coach dropped him two years ago when he try the same shot as your wickey in the test and came back after that te become SA best bowler in our local competitions for two years now. Watched JO Duminy the weekend and still cant believe we pick Prince ahead of this unreal cricket talent.

Expect to see a flat deck in the 2nd test and Tahir will be all important for our case. Looking forward to it.
 

mark_s

Chilla Wilson (44)
I don't think you will see Warner in for the second test unless someone else goes down injured. Khawaja will likely start. Its last chanced saloon for a number of Aus players though with a new selection panel starting after this test and the next series against NZ an ideal chance to blood some new talent. Johnson, Ponting, Haddin, Hussey & Siddle could be reacquainting themselves with the sheffield shield competition if they don't pull something out of the bag.
 
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