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SOPA & PIPA

Will the SOPA and PIPA Laws have a positive or negative impact on society?

  • Positive

    Votes: 1 6.7%
  • Negative

    Votes: 14 93.3%

  • Total voters
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MrTimms

Ken Catchpole (46)
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Negative. Draconian power grab by people far too interested in keeping hold of the old ways that has made them rich in the past, really, move with the times fellas.

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My biggest worry is they know they are going to far, so the watered down version (that is still shit) passes through quietly.
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This shows how bad it could be: http://news.cnet.com/8301-13772_3-57360499-52/mpaa-blasts-dangerous-anti-sopa-blackouts-as-stunts/

Dodd also said that the blackouts are "an abuse of power given the freedoms these companies enjoy in the marketplace today. It's a dangerous and troubling development when the platforms that serve as gateways to information intentionally skew the facts to incite their users in order to further their corporate interests."

Loosely translates to "I object to their free site furthering their corporate interests in protest of me trying to further my corporate interests", or something like that.
 

MrTimms

Ken Catchpole (46)
Staff member
No, hugely unpopular so they just stopped talking about it. No laws passed.
 

Swat

Chilla Wilson (44)
You need to watch this:


Also:

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spooony

Guest
On US yes but in my country couldn't care less. The russians will always make the Internet free

Would you steal this car? No but I would download it if I could...
 

Swat

Chilla Wilson (44)
You guys do realise this bill allows them to persecute those outside of america... namely you and me
 

Sully

Tim Horan (67)
Staff member
Yup the US governments been chasing me for years. I think it's because of my Swarthy complexion.
 

Jethro Tah

Bob Loudon (25)
I'm a fence sitter on this one.

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My biggest worry is they know they are going to far, so the watered down version (that is still shit) passes through quietly.
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I believe that is their intention. Apparently the sponsors to the bill have already agreed to fine tune it to be more relevant.

Whilst I don't necessarily support their position, I can kind of see where they are coming from. From what I understand the bill is targetted at site publishers and hosts who intentionally publish pirated stuff for financial gain. So I don't see that it will affect G&GR if say a forum member posts a youtube link to rugby footage pinched from Foxtel because G&GR will not directly make money from it. Some would argue that if G&GR hosts google adds or rugby book adds for a fee and allows members to post pirate stuff it could be seen as revenue raising through increased site traffic. Don't quote me but I expect the onus will be on the copyright holder to prove a site knowingly intended to profit directly from hosting pirated stuff. The real target of the bill is to bust pay-for-view sites that charge users to access someone else's hardwork, and there are hundreds of these on the web that blatantly ask for subscription fees to watch pirated movies and TV. Worse case scenario, how would you like it if another site started charging viewers to access pirated versions of Scotty's game stats and analyses or Lance's fine prose?

It's an election year, the majority of Democrats don't like its wording and Congress will procrastinate over it for ages anyway so I wouldn't be holding my breath.
 
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spooony

Guest
You guys do realise this bill allows them to persecute those outside of america... namely you and me
How are the US law world law? My country have a constitution and it protects me. I like to see them try unless they do it with me what Nigeria and Israel tried to do with Umaro Dikko.
The I have to ask myself the following. Do I own a website? No Do I plan on creating one and load it full of illegal content or copy all sources ripped from others without siting the original? No So no not really bother bout it
 

#1 Tah

Chilla Wilson (44)
If you post something on Facebook (or Google links to it), its copyright material in the US, as that is where there servers are located. Therefore, you are in violation of US law on US land and can be extradited.
 

Sully

Tim Horan (67)
Staff member
So the US will spend tens of thousands of dollars to extradite me for putting silly Obama video's up. I don't think so.
 

Schadenfreude

John Solomon (38)
Actually - I wonder if they are targeting apple and itunes match... they'll get apples databases of the music that everyone owns...
 

Swat

Chilla Wilson (44)
So the US will spend tens of thousands of dollars to extradite me for putting silly Obama video's up. I don't think so.

Of course not! That's why they'd sue you for copyright infringement and make sure you pay their legal costs..
 

#1 Tah

Chilla Wilson (44)
Actually - I wonder if they are targeting apple and itunes match... they'll get apples databases of the music that everyone owns...
I doubt they could - never really read Apple's privacy policy in detail, but I'm sure something like that is in there somewhere.
 
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