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Schadenfreude

John Solomon (38)
This is obviously the place for reasoned discussion so here my thoughts on Tennis.

Why can't they call deuce at 30-30?
 
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I only watch when those Russian/Serbian/Bosnia/Ukrainian woman are playing. Don't mind them doing the grunt
 

Brumbies Guy

John Solomon (38)
This is obviously the place for reasoned discussion so here my thoughts on Tennis.

Why can't they call deuce at 30-30?

40-all is the only score where you must win by 2 consecutive points, as you have to win by 2. That's what deuce means, 2 points to win (roughly anyway). At 30-all it's still potentially "2 points away from a win", but you could still win 2-1 from there. That's my understanding, could be wrong.
 

Schadenfreude

John Solomon (38)
40-all is the only score where you must win by 2 consecutive points, as you have to win by 2. That's what deuce means, 2 points to win (roughly anyway). At 30-all it's still potentially "2 points away from a win", but you could still win 2-1 from there. That's my understanding, could be wrong.

Pretty sure you're wrong. 2-1 from 30 -30 leaves you at advantage.
 

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Peter Fenwicke (45)
Yeah, one of the only girls who doesn't scream her way to victory. Who do we think can realistically win the woman's side of the draw?

Have to say, Djokovic looked to be struggling to close out Hewitt last night. Federer was beyond brilliant today, as was Murray yesterday and Nadal seems to be coming through the draw quite easily, although we will find out more about him tonight.

Been watching the open now for a fair few years and during a past job did some statistical work while watching a fair bit of tennis.

Mens.
I really rate Murray's chances in the Mens side of things, his form looks impressive and his win in Brisbane demonstrated that. He would be worth chucking a few dollars on with the odds he is at. He's hitting the peak of his career and this year will be make or break for the Scot, particularly with Ivan Lendl in his box. Not sure he's capable of winning any of the other Grandslams as his style of play suits hardcourts. Federer as I mentioned above was brilliant in his disposal of both Tomic and Del Potro, particularly the later. He's my favourite after Djokovic's semi-melt down last night. Nadal is the dark-horse for mine, no real indication of his form yet and he is the only player that can upset Federer at this point IMO.

Likely semi final scenarios.
semi 1: Djokovic v Murray - Line call, could really go either way. Djokovic if he hits his straps will win in 3 but Murray is unconventional and capable of causing an upset. Going with statistics and backing Novak to win in 4 close sets, watch the Scot if he wins the first set though.
semi 2: Federer v Nadal - Nadal will win if it goes 5 but Federer looks in better touch. I still think Nadal has his number both physically and mentally so I would back the Spaniard in 4 sets.

Final scenarios.
Djokovic v Federer - Federer, Murray v Federer - Federer, Djokovic v Nadal - Djokovic, Nadal v Murray - Nadal

Womans

Kvitova or Clijsters.
Azarenka and Sharapova both annoy the shit out of me with their screaming and can't get their second serves in. Other Russian in the draw is too raw
 

Tangawizi

Peter Fenwicke (45)
What a win from Kyrgios! What a tournament so far actually!

Hope he can go on with it! Would be bigger than Becker in 85 if he can win the title.
 

Braveheart81

Will Genia (78)
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Wu-Tang is for the children!

Go Nick Kyrgios!
 

Tangawizi

Peter Fenwicke (45)
Going to be a tough match v Raonic. Raonic only broken once on serve in the first 4 rounds.

Though that could mean Nick just beats him in 3 straight tie-breaks....
 

AngrySeahorse

Peter Sullivan (51)
Going to be a tough match v Raonic. Raonic only broken once on serve in the first 4 rounds.

Though that could mean Nick just beats him in 3 straight tie-breaks..


Indeed, Raonic beat Kei Nishikori who is a pretty good competitor. I hope he doesn't go out like Alizé Cornet did after knocking off Serena, she was bounced by Bouchard the very next match.

I thought Nick would put up a big fight against Nadal but I didnt expect him to win. Was very happy to see otherwise in the morning!
 

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Peter Fenwicke (45)
Raonic will be a tough ask after Rafa but this kid has proven everyone wrong so far.

Go out there and have fun mate. I have a sneaky suspicion he might be OK if he plays with nothing to lose again.
 

waiopehu oldboy

Stirling Mortlock (74)
Kyrgios continues to amaze: chooses not to have a coach & chooses to only train for ~15 min/ day yet still cracks the shits with the poor cnuts in his player's box when things don't go his way.

Instead of suggesting Kyrgios sit down with Lleyton & talk coaching, maybe Wally Masur himself should sit down with Kyrgios & suggest he fuck off & dig ditches or work in retail for a coupla years while he works out whether tennis really is his go. Or just fuck off & dig ditches or work in retail for a while longer & reflect on what he could have been had he not chosen to not have a coach & not chosen to only train for ~15 min/ day & crack the shits any time things don't go his way. WT fining him $US5K or whatever ain't gunna get through so maybe it's time for someone to be a little more direct.
 

I like to watch

David Codey (61)
Kyrgios continues to amaze: chooses not to have a coach & chooses to only train for ~15 min/ day yet still cracks the shits with the poor cnuts in his player's box when things don't go his way.

Instead of suggesting Kyrgios sit down with Lleyton & talk coaching, maybe Wally Masur himself should sit down with Kyrgios & suggest he fuck off & dig ditches or work in retail for a coupla years while he works out whether tennis really is his go. Or just fuck off & dig ditches or work in retail for a while longer & reflect on what he could have been had he not chosen to not have a coach & not chosen to only train for ~15 min/ day & crack the shits any time things don't go his way. WT fining him $US5K or whatever ain't gunna get through so maybe it's time for someone to be a little more direct.
The prick earnt $80k for losing last night.
So $5k fine is not an attitude changer..
Tennis needs to suspend players, not fine them, if they wish to change behaviour.
 

Braveheart81

Will Genia (78)
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Kyrgios makes for compelling viewing. The TV audiences support that. The equal mix of brilliance and complete meltdown is a big part of that.

He seems like a guy who doesn't really like his job, but the pay is too good not to do it. It's not really an uncommon situation. The unusual part of it is that he's a professional tennis player and can maintain a top 20 world ranking despite his lack of application.

I don't think ATP are going to take any particularly strong action to try and get rid of Kyrgios. It isn't in their interests. Outside of the top few players in the world, he's probably the biggest drawcard the men's game has.
 

waiopehu oldboy

Stirling Mortlock (74)
^^^^^^^^^^ for the Gen Y demographic, probably, but I'm (or was) Gen X so give me Monfils or Tsonga who provide all the OMG! & WTF? moments you get from NK but without the petulance & narcissism. Another troubling thing is that if he's like this at 21, what's he gunna be like at 25? Other than, hopefully, no longer on the circuit.
 
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