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Contador suspended for 'roids

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Jethro Tah

Bob Loudon (25)
Saw the news this morning and it has really spoilt my day. I understand that he will call for a second test and that he will only be banned when all tests are positive. Fingers crossed it will prove to be only food poisoning. I honestly thought he was a genuine athlete and will be gutted if it is doping. I will be watching this closely.
 

barbarian

Phil Kearns (64)
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If what has been reported is true, I could believe this was food poisoning or whatever. If they only found a tiny amount of the chemical in one of the thousands of test he has no doubt done then he might well be right.

Having said that, I don't think he is clean, or anyone else for that matter. But that may be a debate for another day.
 

Gagger

Nick Farr-Jones (63)
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I've also read rumours about LA flying around (more recent rumours - there's always been some!) and that they'll be announcing something shortly. Although, could be the same mob sending out those mungo emails??
 

Scarfman

Knitter of the Scarf
I was thinking of taking up cycling. I haven't got the full kit yet, but I thought I'd borrow my son's ventolin just to get me started. I also found syringes behind the local gym so I thought I'd try them and see what happens.
 

Moses

Simon Poidevin (60)
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If what has been reported is true, I could believe this was food poisoning or whatever. If they only found a tiny amount of the chemical in one of the thousands of test he has no doubt done then he might well be right.

Having said that, I don't think he is clean, or anyone else for that matter. But that may be a debate for another day.
Could the tiny residual amount also be explained by the time elapsed since the roid was taken?
 

en_force_er

Geoff Shaw (53)
Could the tiny residual amount also be explained by the time elapsed since the roid was taken?

I doubt if one was a serious steroid user it would only be a small amount as I'm lead to believe once you stop using them the results of all the drug taking disappear very quickly.

Also, I don't think if I was a professional cyclist steroids wouldn't be my performance enhancing substance of choice so this is all a bit fishy. Is it confirmed to be steroids?
 

Moses

Simon Poidevin (60)
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He had clenbuterol in his urine.
It was detected by a lab test, and confirmed in his B sample. It was definately there.
I'm sorry but "food contamination" sounds like a crock. If anything, this defence confirms the presence of the drug.

Sure it was a small amount, and had the lab used the crudest accepted testing technique it wouldn't have been discovered. Perhaps that was his gamble.

Regardless, cycling of all sports needs the toughest testing available, and needs to be vigilant in punishing those found on the wrong side of the line.
 

Reddy!

Bob Davidson (42)
Lance Armstrong is a cheat. He played the whole cancer sympathy card so he wouldn't get caught.
 

Jethro Tah

Bob Loudon (25)
Well, well, well. So it's true, he cheated. Contador has been banned for two years and stripped of his 2010 TdF win. I love Le Tour and will continue following it regardless but feel really let down. Worse than when Landis and Ullrich got busted. This really sucks, not the bit he got caught but that he did it in the first place. Only last week, ESPN was showing a replay of the 2010 tour and I really enjoyed watching his duel with Schleck again. He said in 2010 when charges were first brought that if convicted he won't ride the grand tours ever again - I wonder if that is still the case.
 
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spooony

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Could the tiny residual amount also be explained by the time elapsed since the roid was taken?
How about a hair sample then?
This always been the thing that plagued cycling and they get caught out year after year thinking they got the substance that can not be picked up. Its really hurting the cycle world and soon it will have a drug reputation which everyone will joke about
 

Schadenfreude

John Solomon (38)
I doubt if one was a serious steroid user it would only be a small amount as I'm lead to believe once you stop using them the results of all the drug taking disappear very quickly.

Also, I don't think if I was a professional cyclist steroids wouldn't be my performance enhancing substance of choice so this is all a bit fishy. Is it confirmed to be steroids?

The major effect of taking steroids is a much greater ability to recover from injury, it helps the process of rebuilding muscle when it's torn. They're not so much performance enhancing as they are training enhancing. You can train twice as much on steroids as you could otherwise. Fair enough on "le tour" they would be pretty useful for recovery - but you're guaranteed to get caught - so they resort to blood doping instead (which is probably more dangerous).
 
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spooony

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They have team doctors, pediatricians everything with them. There is no excuse for taking something containing a banned substance really. This is the modern professional era we are in.
 

Jethro Tah

Bob Loudon (25)
My respect for Andy Schleck has just increased tenfold. Obviously he is a top cyclist and earns respect for that but I have always thought him to be a bit prickly or "holier than thou". With Contador being stripped of his 2010 win, it automatically goes to Andy but he said he does not consider himself a Tour champion. "I battled with Contador in that race and I lost ... if I succeed this year, I will consider it as my first Tour victory."
 

Torn Hammy

Johnnie Wallace (23)
There is a very revealing and depressing BBC Audio Documentary "Secrets in the Blood" that mentions Contador. You will never take cycling and other endurance sports seriously again. You must listen to this.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/worldservice/documentaries/2008/07/080725_secrets_blood_2.shtml

The book "Positive" by World Champion and Australian Athlete of the Year(1995) Werner Reiterer reveals the inside story of drugs and Olympic sports. As a clean athlete his discus throws hovered around 63m every event he entered while his doped up rivals yo-yoed between 55m and 75m depending on the efficacy of the drug testing programs over time. He describes in detail the chemistry, the benefits, the procurement and the psychological effects of the hundreds of performance enhancing drugs involved. It is a cracking read that will leave you gobsmacked. Published by Pan Macmillan Aust. P/L. 2000.
 
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spooony

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There is a very revealing and depressing BBC Audio Documentary "Secrets in the Blood" that mentions Contador. You will never take cycling and other endurance sports seriously again. You must listen to this.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/worldservice/documentaries/2008/07/080725_secrets_blood_2.shtml

The book "Positive" by World Champion and Australian Athlete of the Year(1995) Werner Reiterer reveals the inside story of drugs and Olympic sports. As a clean athlete his discus throws hovered around 63m every event he entered while his doped up rivals yo-yoed between 55m and 75m depending on the efficacy of the drug testing programs over time. He describes in detail the chemistry, the benefits, the procurement and the psychological effects of the hundreds of performance enhancing drugs involved. It is a cracking read that will leave you gobsmacked. Published by Pan Macmillan Aust. P/L. 2000.
A few bad apples spoil the bunch but there is the honest ones as well. That is why we watch and take those sports seriously in the end.
 
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