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NSW AAGPS Rugby 2012

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mark7

Stan Wickham (3)
Predictions for this weekend



Kings vs Joeys - Both teams have come off massive wins over Grammar. Kings without Jones and Lalaki are seriously under strength and Joeys backs should be able to win the battle. Kings forwards won it for them in the trial but i dont know if they can do it again. Over the last 3 years the team who has won the trial has not won the comp game. Expect Joeys to get a late win in a quality game again this year. Joeys 32-29

If Kings had their full strength team Kings would beat Joeys easy. But now with King's star players out it weakens the team. In my opinion i do think both Joeys and Kings are now evenly matched for this saturdays game. And it is to hard to tell who will win this game. It all comes down to the better team on the day.
 

Brian Westlake

Arch Winning (36)
If Kings had their full strength team Kings would beat Joeys easy. But now with King's star players out it weakens the team. In my opinion i do think both Joeys and Kings are now evenly matched for this saturdays game. And it is to hard to tell who will win this game. It all comes down to the better team on the day.
It doesn't take long for excuses does it? If Joeys had their full team too,They would win. Injuries unfortuntately happen, so play the hand you're given and enjoy the game. No " aww, but we had A,B ,C out". I reckon its going to be a cracker especially the 2's.
 

rugbyscribe

Herbert Moran (7)
The thing I find a bit strange about it all is that to qualify to play in the Grand Final he would have had to play a minimum number of games for his club side this year so why is he only being dropped now? Is it a matter of the school only just finding out about his club appearances?

It would be pretty common knowledge between the boys who was playing club rugby on weekends and if they know then there is a good chance the school coaches would know as well. His past club performances have also been commented about in G&GR posts and so are public knowledge at least to those who read this blog. I still think there is more to all this than we know about.
 

KOB1987

Rod McCall (65)
It would be pretty common knowledge between the boys who was playing club rugby on weekends and if they know then there is a good chance the school coaches would know as well. His past club performances have also been commented about in G&GR posts and so are public knowledge at least to those who read this blog. I still think there is more to all this than we know about.

I agree, there must be a reason why the school hasn't done anything about it until now.
 

FootyForever

Stan Wickham (3)
The following article linked below is written by the Rector at St. Ignatius. I thought it was an interesting outlook on the concept of sporting scholarships within the GPS Sporting Community. Obviously, this may be more appropriate in the School Sporting Scholarships thread. But, this does have a lot of relevance to be in this thread because it applies and is directed towards the GPS Sporting Community.

Article: http://www.riverview.nsw.edu.au/index.php?option=com_docman&task=cat_view&gid=14&Itemid=705

In order to read the article, click on the 'Issue 24 - 2012' link and read the 'A Sporting Chance - From the Rector' at the top of the page.
 

mark7

Stan Wickham (3)
The new officical Kings side is:
1)Jack Bliss
2 Jono Borke
3)Lachlan Strachan
4 Fergus Lee-Warner
5) Matthew Matson
6)Jack McCalman
7Harry Randall (c)
8) Liam Moylan
9)Andrew Ferris
10)Max Wylie
11) James Kane
12)Will Davis
13)Sam Carter
14) sam Ainsworth
15)Jack Tourish

TKS have brought up 16A's fullback james kane to wing in the 1st XV. Will be very intresting to see how he plays in the top team.
 

wreckless

Bob Loudon (25)
The new officical Kings side is:
1)Jack Bliss
2 Jono Borke
3)Lachlan Strachan
4 Fergus Lee-Warner
5) Matthew Matson
6)Jack McCalman
7Harry Randall (c)
8) Liam Moylan
9)Andrew Ferris
10)Max Wylie
11) James Kane
12)Will Davis
13)Sam Carter
14) sam Ainsworth
15)Jack Tourish

TKS have brought up 16A's fullback james kane to wing in the 1st XV. Will be very intresting to see how he plays in the top team.

No Tulloch - how serious is his injury and how long will be out?
 

smokinjoe

Ward Prentice (10)
Having seen Newington vs Scots and Scots vs Shore, New will be too big across the park and will put on another dominant performance. Forwards too strong and backs too big and fast for shore - New by 15+
 

random2

Johnnie Wallace (23)
TKS have brought up 16A's fullback james kane to wing in the 1st XV. Will be very intresting to see how he plays in the top team.

Rumour was that Kane had a broken hand and was out for this weekend ? If he is playing 1st i think hell do a great job, second best 16s player in NSW (behind Critchon) IMO.
 

CTPE

Nev Cottrell (35)
The following article linked below is written by the Rector at St. Ignatius. I thought it was an interesting outlook on the concept of sporting scholarships within the GPS Sporting Community. Obviously, this may be more appropriate in the School Sporting Scholarships thread. But, this does have a lot of relevance to be in this thread because it applies and is directed towards the GPS Sporting Community.

Article: http://www.riverview.nsw.edu.au/index.php?option=com_docman&task=cat_view&gid=14&Itemid=705

In order to read the article, click on the 'Issue 24 - 2012' link and read the 'A Sporting Chance - From the Rector' at the top of the page.

An interesting article that all should read - Just have a couple of queries:

1. "At one time, the Association of Heads of Independent Schools (of which Riverview is a member) had an agreement that sporting scholarships would not be offered. But in recent years (sadly, to the delight of many) the arrangement was struck down as contravening the Restrictive Trade Practices Act."

I haven't come across this explanation before about the reason why GPS schools offer sporting scholarships - it doesn't state however whether the restriction referred to is in relation to the schools conducting their education business or the players themselves - I can't see that it applies to the players as they are not offering their services for hire?

2. "At Riverview, people are valued. They are not commodities to be traded. Here, loyalties grow year by year. We call it home-grown talent. Flashing a fistful of dollars to change your colours and your commitment is not our way. Allegiances are not for sale. We make that point very clearly now in our printed Rugby and Football programmes each week both here and at St Aloysius’ College. At Aloys’ they put the year of a boy’s enrolment at the College next to his name to show they do not deal in recent imports. We do the same here, indicating the teams a boy has worked his way through over the years in reaching the Firsts."

Looking at last week's Riverview Firsts team from their programme I note the following: (with boys names omitted)

No 3 - played in the 2nd XV last year but no rugby prior at View
No 4 - did not play rugby at View prior to this year
No 9- - played in the 16As last year but no rugby prior at View
No 10 - played in the 1st XV last year but no rugby prior at View
No 13 - played in the 2nd XV last year and the U15A the year before but no rugby prior at View.

That's 5 out of 15 or 1/3 of the First XV . I don't suggest that these players are on scholarships of any type - but they are all either recent arrivals at Riverview or perhaps they were there but playing soccer prior to their rugby conversion?
 

KOB1987

Rod McCall (65)
my mail is that the school policy is if you are in the 1st XV then you can't play for outside teams DURING THE GPS COMP..apparently he told the school he was playing in the GF this weekend and they upheld their rules..I'm not sure if he has been playing for the club during the GPS comp, I'll need to go back through the thread, but is eligible to play for the club due to games played prior..by the sounds of it he simply wants to play on Sunday and therefore the school cant play him in the 1sts, not sure why he has gone all the way down to the 4ths though..the Joeys 4ths are the big losers here!!
 

rugbyscribe

Herbert Moran (7)
my mail is that the school policy is if you are in the 1st XV then you can't play for outside teams DURING THE GPS COMP..apparently he told the school he was playing in the GF this weekend and they upheld their rules..I'm not sure if he has been playing for the club during the GPS comp, I'll need to go back through the thread, but is eligible to play for the club due to games played prior..by the sounds of it he simply wants to play on Sunday and therefore the school cant play him in the 1sts, not sure why he has gone all the way down to the 4ths though..the Joeys 4ths are the big losers here!!

The club game is a grand final - yes. It is being played after today's GPS game - yes. The next and last GPS game of the year is not until 6 days after the club grand final - yes. It all makes sense - NO!
 

KOB1987

Rod McCall (65)
The club game is a grand final - yes. It is being played after today's GPS game - yes. The next and last GPS game of the year is not until 6 days after the club grand final - yes. It all makes sense - NO!

Irrelevant, the school has a policy and they need to be seen to be enforcing it..nothing against the kid though, its his choice..
 
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