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NRC Crowd Watch

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Rugbynutter39

Michael Lynagh (62)
I actually don't think there is one magic silver bullet to grow the interest in NRC and will take a lot of work and effort....including marketing effort..learning what works and doesn't work...

More content on fox yes...but need to make sure it gets the ratings....unrealistic to probably expect them to broadcast all games at this stage till prove up demand ratings wise for the product...

If ARU approaches Fox showing a better marketing plan for NRC next season maybe might be able to push for another game a week...
 
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Rd 1
Brisbane vs Sydney - 3'408
Canberra vs Perth - 1'500
NSW Country vs Rams - 1'000
Melbourne vs North Harbour - 2'187
Total: 8'000

Rd 2
Rams vs Vikings - 1'200
QLD Country vs NSW Country -1'800
Stars vs Rising - 1'002
Spirit vs Brisbane - 2'300
Total: 6'300

Rd 3
Rays vs Eagles - 1'982
Spirit vs Rams - 2'200
Vikings vs Q Country - 2'000
City vs Rising - 3'300
Total: 9'482

Rd 4
Rising vs Spirit - 2'096
Rams vs Stars - 1'063
Q Country vs Rays - 1'500*
Eagles vs City - 750
Total: 5'409

Rd 5
Q Country vs Rams - 1'500
Eagles vs Rising - 2'000
Rays vs Spirit - 2'187
Stars vs Vikings - 1'047
Total: 6'734

Rd 6
Rising vs Vikings - 1'977
City vs Q Country - 5'000
Spirit vs Stars - 1'445
Rays vs Rams - 2'900
Total: 11'322

GF:
Brisbane vs Perth - 7'889


Here are the average crowds from the first 6 Rounds of 2014, i stopped keeping track after Rd 6 but they should be useful to make comparisons to the crowd in 2015.

Brisbane City vs Sydney Stars attracted 3'408 to the season opener, it will be interesting to see how the crowd fares for the Brisbane City vs Perth Spirit 2015 season opener.
 

Hugh Jarse

Rocky Elsom (76)
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How much does it cost to hire and staff the venues?

Hopefully crowd figures will be up on last year, but this will only happen with more promotion, and there really doesn't appear to have been a hell of a lot of that going on.
 

Bring Back The Ruck

Herbert Moran (7)
How much does it cost to hire and staff the venues?

Depends on each venue, one of the reasons Rams are playing at Concord and I assume Merrylands and Forshaw is that much of the staff will be there for free as food and drink sales go to club hosting game, I think Pirtek costs a lot more in hire terms but the council helps out (I may be wrong but I think its right) but staff there will not be doing it for free like the other venues.
It will be similar to last weekends grand final, if you went there, at many grounds in NSW I reckon.
Get down to Merrylands on Saturday HJ and sample the fantastic hospitality of the MTB's!
 
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How much does it cost to hire and staff the venues?

Hopefully crowd figures will be up on last year, but this will only happen with more promotion, and there really doesn't appear to have been a hell of a lot of that going on.


Well thats actually a good point to raise, many of the teams(Rays, Rising, Rams) have moved to cheaper stadium for 2015, the byproduct of this is that some of these stadiums are less accessible and don't have the amentities of the bigger stadiums. But, the lower overheads mean the crowd required to generate a profit is lower and potential profit margins are greater.

So, it'll be interesting to see whether the move to suburban grounds adversely impacts on the crowds of those teams.
 

Hugh Jarse

Rocky Elsom (76)
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Depends on each venue, one of the reasons Rams are playing at Concord and I assume Merrylands and Forshaw is that much of the staff will be there for free as food and drink sales go to club hosting game, I think Pirtek costs a lot more in hire terms but the council helps out (I may be wrong but I think its right) but staff there will not be doing it for free like the other venues.
It will be similar to last weekends grand final, if you went there, at many grounds in NSW I reckon.
Get down to Merrylands on Saturday HJ and sample the fantastic hospitality of the MTB's!

I am well acquainted with the BBQ and Canteen offerings of the MP2B's, and have praised such on the Shute Shield BBQ & Canteen thread on occasions.

Belly (& Mrs Belly 2 Blues) and the volunteer crew in the Canteen and on the hot plate do a fantastic job.

Hiring 3 or 4 licensed security blokes for "crowd control" and RSA purposes on top of the usual venue costs can be the difference between profit and loss.
 

Bring Back The Ruck

Herbert Moran (7)
Sorry HJ wasnt inferring you dont know what your talking about or anything like that, quite the opposite your work and knowledge here is appreciated by all.
I know you are a fan of the offerings at Merrylands and saturday will be everyones only chance to sample the "best food in the NRC".
N.B. I have no actual idea of the offerings at any of the smaller grounds that are not Shute Shield venues ;)

I think the RSL may help with the security/RSA elements, again not sure but Club Burwood do for Pirates so I assume a similar role for Merrylands RSL and Two Blues is in place.

Hopefully Merrylands gets a similar turnout to the Tahs game at the start of the year.
 

Rugbynutter39

Michael Lynagh (62)
Well one advantage of playing at different suburban grounds is likelihood that grounds near fans and tempted to go along and try out what has to offer. Stars supporter as leichardt oval right next door but concord oval equally close so will go along to that rams game given so close to home.

Given size of crowds makes much more sense to player at smaller grounds to keep costs under control.
 

Tahtrajic

Ted Fahey (11)
I'm not sure if anyone has said this but playing a game on Saturday/Sunday afternoon at this time of the year is a waste of time if your trying to attract family's as most of us have kids playing on one or both of the days. And the older the kids get the later it is. I really would have liked to get to the Rays game this weekend.
 

RugbyReg

Rocky Elsom (76)
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I'm not sure if anyone has said this but playing a game on Saturday/Sunday afternoon at this time of the year is a waste of time if your trying to attract family's as most of us have kids playing on one or both of the days. And the older the kids get the later it is. I really would have liked to get to the Rays game this weekend.


whats the solution? You play it at night and you take families out of the equation too.

Plus a lot of these grounds don't have sufficient lights for live stream broadcast.

Nup, arvo games the best solution for mine.
 

AussieDominance

Trevor Allan (34)
I am assuming Manly will have to hire lights for the TV game in a few weeks. North Sydney could have been an option for a night game for the Rays.
 

neilc

Bob Loudon (25)
whats the solution? You play it at night and you take families out of the equation too.

Plus a lot of these grounds don't have sufficient lights for live stream broadcast.

Nup, arvo games the best solution for mine.


Agreed Reg, my kids wanted to go to Ballymore last night (so did I) but it wouldn't have finished until 9pm, which means getting home really late etc and they're in primary school, so way too late for a Thursday. If it was a weekend afternoon however we'd have been there, like we were last year.

Disappointing crowd too - probably reflects on being a weeknight - considering a few weeks ago we had nearly 9000 there for Easts vs Souths, to get less than 3000 for the NRC is not good.
 

Scoey

Tony Shaw (54)
Yep, on a school night, unless you live close, it's just a bit too much effort.

I don't finish work until 5:30 and am then looking at probably 1-1.5hrs to get there. After the game it will take the usual age to get out of Ballymore, then the 1.5hr drive home and still have to front up to work the next day

OR

I can watch it on TV with the fire on, pants optional. No brainer. :D
 

Tahtrajic

Ted Fahey (11)
Agreed Reg, my kids wanted to go to Ballymore last night (so did I) but it wouldn't have finished until 9pm, which means getting home really late etc and they're in primary school, so way too late for a Thursday. If it was a weekend afternoon however we'd have been there, like we were last year.

Disappointing crowd too - probably reflects on being a weeknight - considering a few weeks ago we had nearly 9000 there for Easts vs Souths, to get less than 3000 for the NRC is not good.
I'm not sure how they do it but how about a 6.30 kick off for the Saturday game. Leave the Thursday TV game alone, I understand the reasons for it. I'd just like the Saturday games to be more available to the kids who play in the afternoons on the Saturday, the Sunday 3pm is marginally better as a lot of the older boys stop playing club in the last couple of years at school it's very hard on the body when they play two games a weekend all season.i know many of the boys who played with my son dropped out in u16 or their school pushed them too.
 
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