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AUS Vs WI 15/16

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The_Brown_Hornet

John Eales (66)
Love that Patto is back and has found his mojo again. That bloke is a serious weapon when bowling well. He's properly rapid, pitches it up and swings it. That will get you a lot of wickets at any level of the game. Him from one end and Hazlewood at the other is an enticing prospect.
 

Highlander35

Andrew Slack (58)
Hazelwood, Patto, and Starc looms as the best long term bowling partnership. If he ever gets fit, Cummins will put pressure on these 3, while hopefully NCN has opportunity to put real pressure on through Shield performances rather than faux pressure by the selection panel.
 

The_Brown_Hornet

John Eales (66)
Yep, our pace stocks when most of them are fit will raise our game considerably (and keep the pressure on the incumbents). If we can do the same with the batting then I think an ascent to the top ranking again is possible.
 

Strewthcobber

Mark Ella (57)
Death of test cricket overstated?

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Quick Hands

David Wilson (68)
Good to finally see a bit of fight from the WIndies. They made Australia work hard today (aided by 2 poor no-balls from Pattinson). Only one possible result for this match though - Australia to win tomorrow.
 

waiopehu oldboy

Stirling Mortlock (74)
ODI 2 all over before lunch: SL rolled for 117 then Guptill went nuts, 93* off 30 (his 50 off 17, a new NZ record) for a 10-wicket win. I thought SL were poor in ODI 1 but that's just pathetic.

 

Quick Hands

David Wilson (68)
James Brayshaw would have to be the worst/most irritating commentator of any sport in Australia. I am yet to hear anything remotely interesting or worthwhile come from his mouth. When paired with Brett Lee (who is a dead set cure for insomnia) it's excruciating.

The irony is that Bill Lawry, who was one of the more boring cricketers of his generation, is by far the most interesting and enjoyable to listen to.
 

Highlander35

Andrew Slack (58)
SOK in for Hazelwood for the SCG test? Josh looks like he needs a rest, Marsh is bowling well, it's usually a bit of a turner. If there's ever a time to give 2 spinners a go outside the subcontinent, this would probably be it.
 

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Peter Fenwicke (45)
Given they have an extra day rest now I'd definitely be playing Hazlewood at the SCG (his home ground).

Resting him during the ODI series v India & England makes more sense to me. Bring him back late Jan so he's hitting his straps for the NZ tour.

That said, I think SOK should play at the SCG. I'd have Siddle make way for him.
 

Quick Hands

David Wilson (68)
There only real questions for Sydney are: whether or not to play a second spinner, and if the answer to this question is yes; which quick to leave out.

The series is won and to be honest it wouldn't matter either way what they did.

I'd like to see SOK play and I reckon if so they will leave Hazelwood out.

Back to the second test for a moment, it was good to see the WIndies show a bit of fight on days 3 and 4 - whatever was said at the end of day 2 certainly had some impact as there was much more intent and intensity in their play. Their second innings was quite respectable for the 4th innings - but a lot of 20s and 30s, which sums up their lack of technique and temperament at test level.

The pitch was a concern for me. Against most opponents this test would have been a high scoring draw just like the WACA test against NZ. These drop=in pitches don't seem to deteriorate on days 4 and 5 like traditional wickets. Related to this apparently is the type of soil that they use. IMHO there needs to be an in-depth look at the way pitches -particularly the drop-in ones - are prepared. Test cricket really needs it to be really hard to survive and score on days 4 and 5 - it should be really difficult to bat out a draw.
 

No4918

John Hipwell (52)
Mitch Marsh's bowling has just bought him another test to prove his batting.

Pretty sure the selectors aren't viewing it this way. The WI have not got him out in 2 innings so far. All summer the only time he was needed with the bat was Adelaide and he was in a partnership with Sean M that got Aus back on track. All his other opportunities have come with piles on the board and going for runs. Would be crazy to drop him on the back of this summers batting.
 

Strewthcobber

Mark Ella (57)
The pitch was a concern for me. Against most opponents this test would have been a high scoring draw just like the WACA test against NZ. These drop=in pitches don't seem to deteriorate on days 4 and 5 like traditional wickets. Related to this apparently is the type of soil that they use. IMHO there needs to be an in-depth look at the way pitches -particularly the drop-in ones - are prepared. Test cricket really needs it to be really hard to survive and score on days 4 and 5 - it should be really difficult to bat out a draw.

Do you really think it's that much of an issue?

One draw in the last 18 tests in Melbourne would suggest it's plenty hard enough to bat out a draw......
 

Quick Hands

David Wilson (68)
Do you really think it's that much of an issue?

One draw in the last 18 tests in Melbourne would suggest it's plenty hard enough to bat out a draw..

I can't find when the drop-in pitches were first used at the MCG- I'd be surprised if it were 18 years. My comments were at pitches generally and specifically this one. No, it wasn't a draw - but that was largely due to an inept and almost uninterested batting display by the WIndies in the 1st innings. The managed their highest score of the series so far batting last on the 4th day. 282 runs at a fairly good run rate on a day 4 pitch by a fairly limited international cricket team. The Aussies only lost 6 wickets in two innings.

I'll agree to disagree with you on this - I think CA needs to look at the preparation of pitches for test matches in this country.
 

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Peter Fenwicke (45)
Would be crazy to drop him on the back of this summers batting.

18*, 1, 1*, 4, 28, 34, 1, 2, 1 were his returns against the West Indies and NZ this summer.

He's averaged 15 in 12 innings in 2015 without scoring a 50 or 100 with 3 n.o's.

I'm not calling for him to be dropped but stats seem to suggest he's not a test 6.
 
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