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Australia in Sri Lanka 2016

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Quick Hands

David Wilson (68)
Far too many soft dismissals. Caught at slip off the spinners lunging at the ball with hard hands, playing the wrong line or playing the wrong shot.

There's some turn in the wicket, but it's hardly a mine field.
 

Lindommer

Steve Williams (59)
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Burns getting out first over of both innings was fatal to our batting. Shape up or ship out, Joe.
 

Quick Hands

David Wilson (68)
When this many players play this badly it points to one of two things: systems failure in player development or poor preparation.
 

Strewthcobber

Mark Ella (57)
When this many players play this badly it points to one of two things: systems failure in player development or poor preparation.
Selection?

Maybe it's time we started picking horses for courses (isn't that a loaded term in Australian cricket!)

Maybe the teams in Australia and the sub continent shouldn't be essentially the same
 

Quick Hands

David Wilson (68)
Selection?

Maybe it's time we started picking horses for courses (isn't that a loaded term in Australian cricket!)

Maybe the teams in Australia and the sub continent shouldn't be essentially the same

Perhaps, but you'd like to think that most of the best batsmen could play in most conditions - with maybe the odd guy who is really good at spin comes in on the sub-continent or someone who is great against swing in England, but there really are some technique and mental issues that need addressing.

As we saw in England, too many guys go hard at the ball in a nothing defensive stroke and edge to slip. This is fairly basic stuff -soft hands to take the negate turn and bounce - skills that a 1st class cricketer of past generations could execute.

But for the life of me, I can't work out the selection of Holland as the replacement spinner.
 

Strewthcobber

Mark Ella (57)
Perhaps, but you'd like to think that most of the best batsmen could play in most conditions - with maybe the odd guy who is really good at spin comes in on the sub-continent or someone who is great against swing in England, but there really are some technique and mental issues that need addressing.

As we saw in England, too many guys go hard at the ball in a nothing defensive stroke and edge to slip. This is fairly basic stuff -soft hands to take the negate turn and bounce - skills that a 1st class cricketer of past generations could execute.
it might be too much to expect all but the best to develop the skills the past players had, as well as all of the new 2020 skills the old guys didn't have.

The again, perhaps we should be paying more attention to the form of the IPL guys who spend more time on subcontinental pitches than any of our other players.

My last thought is we've always been this bad at playing spin, it has just taken a little while for the sub continental teams to stack the pitches and the big change over recent years - umpires are now willing to give front foot LBW if you get a big stride down the pitch. That one is because of Hawkeye

That fact alone changes the way you have to play
 

Quick Hands

David Wilson (68)
it might be too much to expect all but the best to develop the skills the past players had, as well as all of the new 2020 skills the old guys didn't have.

The again, perhaps we should be paying more attention to the form of the IPL guys who spend more time on subcontinental pitches than any of our other players.

My last thought is we've always been this bad at playing spin, it has just taken a little while for the sub continental teams to stack the pitches and the big change over recent years - umpires are now willing to give front foot LBW if you get a big stride down the pitch. That one is because of Hawkeye

That fact alone changes the way you have to play

Maybe, but it seems (by CA directive?) that our pitches barely turn these days - even Sydney. Nor do our pitches seem to have the cracks and variable bounce they did once.
 

ACT Crusader

Jim Lenehan (48)
Some excellent pressure built by the Sri Lankan spinners. A few of the Aussie batsmen really struggled to know whether to play back or come forward.

I don't think the real issue are the Aussie pitches, but more the mental side of the game. Numerous Aussie batsmen in the past have played well in the sub-continent through patience and application.

Well done Sri Lanka


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Strewthcobber

Mark Ella (57)
Steve Smith was pretty forlorn in the Press conference after the game.

Happy with the pace bowlers but didn't think the spinners did enough.

Batsmen have been working hard on the nets to counter the straight deliveries from the SL bowlers but it didn't work.

Need to do something different as it's been 15 years since success in the sub continent.

Will look at specialist spin-batsmen as the current way of doing things - picking the same players everywhere isn't working at all.
 

Brumby Runner

David Wilson (68)
Big improvement in the batting is required, but we also need to stick with our best bowling attack, which is three pace bowlers backed up by a spinner and an all rounder. Going in with second rate spinners, O'Keefe and Holland, is just ridiculous. Sub-continent batsmen brought up on spin their whole lives just eat these bowlers for a snack. Even Lyons has trouble over there.
 

Getwithme

Cyril Towers (30)
Actually O'Keefe's bowling suits the subcontinent. He bowls very tight lines, varies his position on the crease and waits for the pitch to bring something for him or batsmen error. Alot of wickets fell with the ball hitting the stumps and that's what O'Keefe does more often then not.
 
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