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The best XV of players from any school

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Nev Cottrell (35)
Trinity has a fairly meagre crop of representative players to pick from. But this isn't a bad side....

1 Scott Sio (Wallabies, Brumbies)
2 James Bullock (Waratahs, 1999-2000) or Ben Roberts (Waratahs, 2011)
3 Either Christian Burden (Australian Under-21) or Cameron Orr (Australia Under-20, Gloucester) or Dene Glasson (Waratahs, 1984)
4 David Emanuel (Wallabies, 1957-58)
5 Roger Davis (Wallabies, 1974)
6 Roy Hoskins (Wallabies, 1924)
7 Brad Pillinger (Sydney, NSW B, 1991)
8 Fotu Auelua (Brumbies)
9 Jimmy Harris (Waratahs, 1956)
10 Reg Sutton (Queensland and Waratahs, 1962-63)
11 Cam Gordon (Waratahs and Wallabies, 1927-29)
12 Jason Madz (Waratahs, 1994-97)
13 Rory Sidey (Waratahs and Force)
14 Henry Clunies-Ross (Lyon)
15 Jack Debreczeni (Rebels)

There's a bit of cheating. Emanuel (at Grammar) and Davis (at King's) started school at Trinity but finished elsewhere. You could replace them with say Harrison Orr (now with Newcastle Falcons) and Michael Abbott (Australian Schoolboys 1994-95). And Debreczini isn't really a full-back, but Sutton was a high-class 10: he was invited on the 1963 Wallaby tour to South Africa but was unavailable for it. He represented NSW, Queensland, ACT and South Australia - moving around in his career in the Army.
 

Dave Beat

Paul McLean (56)
Help me please, can anyone put positions against the ones missing

Shore Schoolboys


Wally Barnier Shore School 1980 Prop
Hugh Brakell Shore School 1997 ?
Greg Burrow Shore School 1980 Prop/hooker
Jack Clancy Shore School 2013 5/8
Robert Clarke Shore School 1981
Michael Cripps Shore School 1979
David Dix Shore School 1985 Lock
Richard Dowsett Shore School 1983
James Freeman Shore School 1994
Peter Gilmore Shore School 2009
Michael Hawker Shore School 1977 5/8 Centre
Michael Hercus Shore School 1997 5/8
Charlie Horder Shore School 1969
Ian Humphris Shore School 1984
Gordon Irons Shore School 1979 Prop
Geoffrey LeMessurier Shore School 1973
Michael Mathers Shore School 1973 Lock
Jock Merriman Shore School 2011 half back 5/8
Angus Pulver Shore School 2012 half back
Luke Rixon Shore School 2016 wing/ fullback
Rory Suttor Shore School 2016 Lock
Dash Swift Shore School 1997
Phillip Waugh Shore School 1996 - 1997 6/7


Should also be able to list a team since Schoolboy era, as some CAS people are doing on this thread

No way should Peter Gilmore ever be in a "best of" team

I didnt say he should be - the gentleman who provided a full list of names (not a team - just players) wanted to know positions. See above.

I thought Jordy Ried may have also been included on his list but didnt see him?
 

southsider

Arch Winning (36)
I didnt say he should be - the gentleman who provided a full list of names (not a team - just players) wanted to know positions. See above.

I thought Jordy Ried may have also been included on his list but didnt see him?

And I didn't say that you did say that, ease up turbo
 

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Bob Davidson (42)
Barker College Hornsby

15. Tim Wallace (Tahs and Wallabies)
14.
13.
12.
11. Cam Sheppard (Tahs, Force and Wallabies)
10. Nathan Spooner (Reds and Wallabies)
9.
8.
7.Chris Alcock (Force, and Tahs)
6.
5.Hugh Pyle (Rebels, Aus A)
4.
3.Ben Darwin (Brumbies and Wallabies)
2. Ben Whiticker (Force)
1. Richard Harry (Wallabies and Tahs

Could throw in OZ schools and Oz 7's players but decided to keep it to Rep teams

I would add recent school leavers Harry Jones and Tyson Davis to the Barker list.
 

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Frank Row (1)
Cranbrook School (Bellevue Hill)

Yeah...not many from our school. I was going to do just a bit of research but became intrigued with this idea. So here goes:

1. Will Ashton ('97 - Aus Schoolboy. He would have played higher level of footy if he didn't pass away shortly after finishing school).
2. Paul Darveniza (62' - Wallaby).
3.
4.
5. Anthony Abrahams ('62 - Wallaby).
6. Hugh Summerhayes ('14 - Aus Schoolboy. NSW Gen Blue).
7. Dominic O'Neil ('94 - Aus Schoolboy).
8.
9. Richard Fogarty ('99 - Aus Schoolboy).
10. Christian Warner ('94 - Waratahs, Leinster, Australia A)
11. Ian Williams ('82 - Wallaby).
12.
13.
14. Ed Stubbs ('06 - Aus 7s, NSW Eagles, Brumbies, Force)
15. Daniel Batman ('98. Also attended Scots - Brumbies. Competed in the 200m for Aus at the 2000 Olympics. Died in a car accident in 2012).
 

Johnno2500

Frank Row (1)
Cranbrook School (Bellevue Hill)

Yeah.not many from our school. I was going to do just a bit of research but became intrigued with this idea. So here goes:

1. Will Ashton ('97 - Aus Schoolboy. He would have played higher level of footy if he didn't pass away shortly after finishing school).
2. Paul Darveniza (62' - Wallaby).
3.
4.
5. Anthony Abrahams ('62 - Wallaby).
6. Hugh Summerhayes ('14 - Aus Schoolboy. NSW Gen Blue).
7. Dominic O'Neil ('94 - Aus Schoolboy).
8.
9. Richard Fogarty ('99 - Aus Schoolboy).
10. Christian Warner ('94 - Waratahs, Leinster, Australia A)
11. Ian Williams ('82 - Wallaby).
12.
13.
14. Ed Stubbs ('06 - Aus 7s, NSW Eagles, Brumbies, Force)
15. Daniel Batman ('98. Also attended Scots - Brumbies. Competed in the 200m for Aus at the 2000 Olympics. Died in a car accident in 2012).


Put Dave Allen(96) in the back row. He played 1st grade in shute shield at Easts, and pro-rugby in Ireland, he was a backrower could play "6/7/8" muscular guy about 5'11/6-foot kinda like Richie McCaw-SBW build, in between that build but shorter than both, He was solid player captian of Brook 96 side. Andrew Heath(wallaby prop 1996-98) was a school-teacher back then at Brook in 90's lol. Martin Switzer(97) played a bit of 1st grade at Easts shute shield. He was a lock 4 or 5.
 

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Bob Loudon (25)
Cranbrook School (Bellevue Hill)

Yeah.not many from our school. I was going to do just a bit of research but became intrigued with this idea. So here goes:

1. Will Ashton ('97 - Aus Schoolboy. He would have played higher level of footy if he didn't pass away shortly after finishing school).
2. Paul Darveniza (62' - Wallaby).
3.
4.
5. Anthony Abrahams ('62 - Wallaby).
6. Hugh Summerhayes ('14 - Aus Schoolboy. NSW Gen Blue).
7. Dominic O'Neil ('94 - Aus Schoolboy).
8.
9. Richard Fogarty ('99 - Aus Schoolboy).
10. Christian Warner ('94 - Waratahs, Leinster, Australia A)
11. Ian Williams ('82 - Wallaby).
12.
13.
14. Ed Stubbs ('06 - Aus 7s, NSW Eagles, Brumbies, Force)
15. Daniel Batman ('98. Also attended Scots - Brumbies. Competed in the 200m for Aus at the 2000 Olympics. Died in a car accident in 2012).
Not a great academy but had its moments. Ian Williams is somewhat rogue - not a very long term resident. You could slot Mike Maxwell into 4 (the invincibles 77/78).
 

Johnno2500

Frank Row (1)
In the backs there are a few options.
Brook 1st 15 captain Mark Southwell-Keely(93) was a very good schoolboy level player. He played CAS 1sts, may of played for NSW 1sts or 2nds. He may of played a bit of Shute 1st grade or 2nd grade after finishing high school. Good 90's centre combo Sam Meares(95) at 12 and Jack Mesley(95) at 13. I think Jack Mesley played a bit of NSW 1sts or 2nds. Both these 2 centres played CAS 1sts. Also there was a good 10 in 90's Nick Abrahams(96). I think he played NSW 1sts or 2nds as well as CAS 1sts. He was a 10 who could play at 12 sometimes. A small guy like Gits, but very skilled. There's a few guys to look at. I'd put Sam Meares at 12 and Mark Southwell Keely at 13. That would be a reliable centre combo. But all in all Cranbrook is a funny one. They have had some good results over the years(in the 80's I think they are only school who had a better head to head record vs Joey's they were joey's bogey team despite joey's having some great sides). They pushed the Scot's 93 centenary side hard in a trial and were unlucky not to win. They won CAS in 94, beating Barker 94 which had a good side(Ben Darwin) and beat Knox 94). They almost beat Knox 95 who won CAS and had a great side probably best schoolboy side in OZ in 95. They beat Waverley 97 in a side that contained Ryan Cross/Adam Frier, 5-3 the scoreline was from memory.
 

Johnno2500

Frank Row (1)
I had no idea that Daniel Batman had passed away. He was very talented. Sad to read of it.


Batman was good rugby player to, could of played NRL/or Super rugby, if he choose footy not athletics.
He's apparently Australia's best all round men's sprinter ever. He went to Olympics in 400m, I think he won australian titles in both the 100m and 200m to, but he was good at all 3 sprint formats, which is rare in athletics at elite level. Most are good at 1, some are good 2,but to be world class at all 3 is very rare. He was a handy cricket player to.
 

Johnno2500

Frank Row (1)
I didnt say he should be - the gentleman who provided a full list of names (not a team - just players) wanted to know positions. See above.

I thought Jordy Ried may have also been included on his list but didnt see him?


Here's some lists in general, about Cranbrook rugby players.
Australian Schoolboys
Andrew Strathopoulos (1969) Michael Maxwell (1977) Toby Jones (1979)
Paul Flemons (1981 and 1982) Ian Williams (1982) John Pilton (1982 and 1983) Mark Patterson (1984) Justin McDonald (1986) Ben May (1990) Dominic O’ Neil (1995)
William Ashton (1997) Richard Fogarty (1999) Hugh Summerhayes (2014)
Not sure what positions the majority of the Brook Aussie schoolboys played.

The 98 captain of Brook was Dave Oliver a prop, but he did nothing in his rugby career, maybe he played CAS 1sts or 2nds I don't know.
Another Wallaby of the school Barry McDonald (1960) made his wallaby debut in 1969. He was a flanker not sure what (6/7/or 8). The school has only produced 4 or 5 Wallabies max. Test cricket player Ed Cowan was the schools 1st rugby captain in 2000, didn't know that. I think he's the only test cricket player Brook has produced. Don't know what rugby position he was or if he played CAS rugby or NSW schools.
 

Johnno2500

Frank Row (1)
I didnt say he should be - the gentleman who provided a full list of names (not a team - just players) wanted to know positions. See above.

I thought Jordy Ried may have also been included on his list but didnt see him?


Al Baxter went to Shore to, he must be on the lists, but has been forgotten and led toff this list. Tom Bowman I think had a cousin who went to shore.
 

Lee Grant

John Eales (66)
Staff member
Geez this old thread has some legs - just started it one day when I was bored.

Took a bit more research than I can usually be bothered with, but I've finally come up with an all-All Black Christchurch Boys High School XV from the 46 players available:

Fergie McCormick

Lived in NZ for 8 years in the olden days including all my high school years. Played against Fergie - and with him in Canterbury junior rep teams. Hard bastard; even then he took no prisoners; he played first-five then; didn't think he'd ever be an All Black though.
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Quick Hands

David Wilson (68)
Here's some lists in general, about Cranbrook rugby players.
Australian Schoolboys
Andrew Strathopoulos (1969) Michael Maxwell (1977) Toby Jones (1979)
Paul Flemons (1981 and 1982) Ian Williams (1982) John Pilton (1982 and 1983) Mark Patterson (1984) Justin McDonald (1986) Ben May (1990) Dominic O’ Neil (1995)
William Ashton (1997) Richard Fogarty (1999) Hugh Summerhayes (2014)
Not sure what positions the majority of the Brook Aussie schoolboys played.

The 98 captain of Brook was Dave Oliver a prop, but he did nothing in his rugby career, maybe he played CAS 1sts or 2nds I don't know.
Another Wallaby of the school Barry McDonald (1960) made his wallaby debut in 1969. He was a flanker not sure what (6/7/or 8). The school has only produced 4 or 5 Wallabies max. Test cricket player Ed Cowan was the schools 1st rugby captain in 2000, didn't know that. I think he's the only test cricket player Brook has produced. Don't know what rugby position he was or if he played CAS rugby or NSW schools.

Although Paul Flemons was at Balgowlah Boys High School in 1981. Repeated Year 12 at Cranbrook in 1982.
 

Braveheart81

Will Genia (78)
Staff member
I had no idea that Daniel Batman had passed away. He was very talented. Sad to read of it.

He died in a car accident in the Northern Territory. Incredibly sad.

Batman was good rugby player to, could of played NRL/or Super rugby, if he choose footy not athletics.

He's apparently Australia's best all round men's sprinter ever. He went to Olympics in 400m, I think he won australian titles in both the 100m and 200m to, but he was good at all 3 sprint formats, which is rare in athletics at elite level. Most are good at 1, some are good 2,but to be world class at all 3 is very rare. He was a handy cricket player to.


The best all round sprinter bit is by adding up the PBs for 100, 200 and 400m and Batman's overall time is the quickest.

He was an excellent all round athlete. Good at any sport he attempted.


The 98 captain of Brook was Dave Oliver a prop, but he did nothing in his rugby career, maybe he played CAS 1sts or 2nds I don't know.


He played some 1st grade Shute Shield for Eastern Suburbs and then did a fair bit of coaching (and still does).

Test cricket player Ed Cowan was the schools 1st rugby captain in 2000, didn't know that. I think he's the only test cricket player Brook has produced. Don't know what rugby position he was or if he played CAS rugby or NSW schools.


I think Ed may have played fullback. Not certain though.

Cranbrook's other current first class cricketer Will Somerville was also a good schoolboy rugby player (played 1st XV from year 10 onwards). I think he played lock.
 
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