NSW AAGPS 2017

[Inside Shoulder]

As I predicted they SJC) still have to send teams to mutiple venues and host teams from multiple schools because no one has as many teams as they do.

I think their ultimate aim is to have all games at hunters hill.
I wouldn't stand in their way.

 

[bigmac]

I think their ultimate aim is to have all games at hunters hill.
I wouldn't stand in their way.

Lovely playing surface

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[Inside Shoulder]

Learned an intriguing stat on the weekend: SGS have 45 boys participating in the rugby refs program at the school.
I suppose even refs have to go to school

 

[Black & White]

Newington now have an Aussie Rules team in year 9, but from what I have heard the standard of play is absolutely dreadful. They played another school and the score was 8-5, from that score clearly nobody is kicking the 6 pointers. Apparently, the introduction was due to Head School being a Mexican and an Aussie Rules fan. Not the school being enticed by AFL marketing.

The issue regarding Rugby Numbers from talking to New people is leadership, effort, organisation, determination, and a vision that involves a love of the game. If the game is not growing or declining, maybe a number of our Directors of Rugby at certain schools need new jobs elsewhere. Don't blame Multi-Culturalism and its subsequent support and association with soccer. Its leadership within the school.

Newington was confronted by poor leadership, a rich multi-cultural environment and the growth of soccer.That existed for 15 years with two unpopular Headmasters. But more recently the College has now started to turn it around. Due to an Excellent Headmaster, great leaders/coaches and organisers in Rugby. Tours, Rugby Camps, Coaches and professional team preparation are examples of how to grow the game.

Rugby is growing at Newington, which is against the current trend in most schools. We now have 7 teams in the U/13s and they are high quality teams from what I seem. Soccer in the 13s have 8 teams. But Rugby with its seven teams now has more numbers of boys as players in the 13s than soccer. Equally, in the opens we now have 7 teams and reserves for an 8th XV. Yet only two years ago the U/16s fielded just two teams.Had that trend continued we most likely be fielding 4 or 5 teams in the opens this year. I am sure the College will have setbacks, such as the U/15s D side is struggling to get players. But else where the playing numbers are solid.

So if Newington can do it, so can other Schools. Who knows Grammar with its new headmaster might find a new direction in sport, that involves Rugby. For me ten years ago I had lost all hope of New ever getting another premiership beyond the seven we had then. Four premierships later and a top team this year, future of Rugby at Newington College looks stronger and brighter, than ever it has been for many years.

 

[The Honey Badger]

Four premierships later and a top team this year, future of Rugby at Newington College looks stronger and brighter, than ever it has been for many years.

Plenty of Pink Champaign used to celebrate those premierships.




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[WLF]

Newington now have an Aussie Rules team in year 9, but from what I have heard the standard of play is absolutely dreadful. They played another school and the score was 8-5, from that score clearly nobody is kicking the 6 pointers. Apparently, the introduction was due to Head School being a Mexican and an Aussie Rules fan. Not the school being enticed by AFL marketing.

The issue regarding Rugby Numbers from talking to New people is leadership, effort, organisation, determination, and a vision that involves a love of the game. If the game is not growing or declining, maybe a number of our Directors of Rugby at certain schools need new jobs elsewhere. Don't blame Multi-Culturalism and its subsequent support and association with soccer. Its leadership within the school.

Newington was confronted by poor leadership, a rich multi-cultural environment and the growth of soccer.That existed for 15 years with two unpopular Headmasters. But more recently the College has now started to turn it around. Due to an Excellent Headmaster, great leaders/coaches and organisers in Rugby. Tours, Rugby Camps, Coaches and professional team preparation are examples of how to grow the game.

Rugby is growing at Newington, which is against the current trend in most schools. We now have 7 teams in the U/13s and they are high quality teams from what I seem. Soccer in the 13s have 8 teams. But Rugby with its seven teams now has more numbers of boys as players in the 13s than soccer. Equally, in the opens we now have 7 teams and reserves for an 8th XV. Yet only two years ago the U/16s fielded just two teams.Had that trend continued we most likely be fielding 4 or 5 teams in the opens this year. I am sure the College will have setbacks, such as the U/15s D side is struggling to get players. But else where the playing numbers are solid.

So if Newington can do it, so can other Schools. Who knows Grammar with its new headmaster might find a new direction in sport, that involves Rugby. For me ten years ago I had lost all hope of New ever getting another premiership beyond the seven we had then. Four premierships later and a top team this year, future of Rugby at Newington College looks stronger and brighter, than ever it has been for many years.

Wow B&W,

That is fantastic news and again shows a resurgence can happen.

I posted a similar story about Waverley on the CAS site, no new resurgence in numbers as yet BUT a new rugby focused Head of School, who is doing the rounds each week across the younger age groups to ascertain what we need.

At last some good news, trust you might be at Queens Park at 3.15 for the 1sts XV game on Sat?

 

[Eyes and Ears]

Learned an intriguing stat on the weekend: SGS have 45 boys participating in the rugby refs program at the school.
I suppose even refs have to go to school

Why is that so intriguing?

 

[Inside Shoulder]

Why is that so intriguing?

Because it indicates an interest in rugby exceeding the interest one would infer from the numbers actually playing the gamel, supporting the theory that the risk of injury may we'll be the operative deterrent in a school like SGS, rather than, say, ethnic predilection.
If so weight/size grading might be a solution to declining numbers everywhere.
An interesting survey would be for the ARU to poll the school communities to find out why kids don't play rugby, rather than finding out where those who played, played.

 

[WLF]

Because it indicates an interest in rugby exceeding the interest one would infer from the numbers actually playing the gamel, supporting the theory that the risk of injury may we'll be the operative deterrent in a school like SGS, rather than, say, ethnic predilection.
If so weight/size grading might be a solution to declining numbers everywhere.
An interesting survey would be for the ARU to poll the school communities to find out why kids don't play rugby, rather than finding out where those who played, played.

Very good call IS,

Apparently it works well in N.Z. as has been discussed, so why wouldn't it here!

Of course it would, but this type of intelligent work,and care factor, clearly appears NOT to be on the ARU's radar.

 

[JuanBarn]

Because it indicates an interest in rugby exceeding the interest one would infer from the numbers actually playing the gamel, supporting the theory that the risk of injury may we'll be the operative deterrent in a school like SGS, rather than, say, ethnic predilection.
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Don't refs get paid? At 15-16 I know I'd rather tick off my saturday sports obligations and get paid for it as well.

 

[bigmac]

Don't refs get paid? At 15-16 I know I'd rather tick off my saturday sports obligations and get paid for it as well.

Reffing a game as a young fella can be pretty tough esp with some aggro mums and dads screaming at you from the sideline.

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[Eyes and Ears]

Because it indicates an interest in rugby exceeding the interest one would infer from the numbers actually playing the gamel, supporting the theory that the risk of injury may we'll be the operative deterrent in a school like SGS, rather than, say, ethnic predilection.
If so weight/size grading might be a solution to declining numbers everywhere.
An interesting survey would be for the ARU to poll the school communities to find out why kids don't play rugby, rather than finding out where those who played, played.

Thanks. Could it also be related to the vision that the MIC has for rugby at the school?

 

[Inside Shoulder]

Thanks. Could it also be related to the vision that the MIC has for rugby at the school?

Possibly.
Have to give credit to the master overseeing the program: he is a very good ref (AIS scholarship) - there are a couple in the SGS bunch too.
There is possibly a slow drift back to rugby at the school - 9 boys defected from soccer to rugby in the U16s the coach told me. Movement in that direction at that age is unheard of.
As I've said before, non-rugby grammar parents often say their son wants to play rugby for the social aspects but they are against it for injury risk reasons.
The more I see the more i think that Grammar's slide was heavily contributed to by the former long term MIC - just as I see that in rowing: though I got stung by a troll on that recently.

 

[bigmac]

Possibly.
Have to give credit to the master overseeing the program: he is a very good ref (AIS scholarship) - there are a couple in the SGS bunch too.
There is possibly a slow drift back to rugby at the school - 9 boys defected from soccer to rugby in the U16s the coach told me. Movement in that direction at that age is unheard of.
As I've said before, non-rugby grammar parents often say their son wants to play rugby for the social aspects but they are against it for injury risk reasons.
The more I see the more i think that Grammar's slide was heavily contributed to by the former long term MIC - just as I see that in rowing: though I got stung by a troll on that recently.

IMHO the slide began under mackerrass and wasnt stopped by Townsend. Cannot speak for vallance as he was after my time there. Maybe the new head will change things a bit. MICs can only do so much.

L Fear seems to be doing a decent job with the 1st xv.

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[Inside Shoulder]

IMHO the slide began under mackerrass and wasnt stopped by Townsend. Cannot speak for vallance as he was after my time there. Maybe the new head will change things a bit. MICs can only do so much.

L Fear seems to be doing a decent job with the 1st xv.

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It didn't slide under Mackerras it was pushed. Don't get me started on him.

 

[bigmac]

It didn't slide under Mackerras it was pushed. Don't get me started on him.

Fair point. he was very anti sport esp rugby. I was there just as he retired so didn't see too much of him.
His successor was more apathetic though i recall he had a breakdown with the teaching staff. The old guard (laurie f and others) told me all about his failings at a reunion recently

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[Inside Shoulder]

Fair point. he was very anti sport esp rugby. I was there just as he retired so didn't see too much of him.
His successor was more apathetic though i recall he had a breakdown with the teaching staff. The old guard (laurie f and others) told me all about his failings at a reunion recently

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Thumb was my only headmaster.
Laurie F has taught both my boys.
Saw him at Easts lunch last year and at Woollahra during the last state election campaign when Malcolm Turnbull was present.
Turnbull says to LF "Ah Laurie, you taught me everything I know about mathematics".
Quick as a flash LF replies "I doubt that Malcolm, but i know I taught you everything you know about rugby".
MT not happy at having been got the better of.

 

[bigmac]

Thumb was my only headmaster.
Laurie F has taught both my boys.
Saw him at Easts lunch last year and at Woollahra during the last state election campaign when Malcolm Turnbull was present.
Turnbull says to LF "Ah Laurie, you taught me everything I know about mathematics".
Quick as a flash LF replies "I doubt that Malcolm, but i know I taught you everything you know about rugby".
MT not happy at having been got the better of.

I read the book on turnbull. Not well liked at sgs. Teachers (alan a) have told me about his arrogance.

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[SonnyDillWilliams]

who is Joeys firsts playing this weekend? As if this rain comes, might only be games at HH

Match of the round -- Scots v Knox ... any ins and outs?

 

[Eyes and Ears]

Joeys are playing Shore at Northbridge