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TRC Round 1: South Africa v Australia, Sunday 21 July 1:05am AEST

Braveheart81

Will Genia (78)
Staff member
I'm not really sure our problem is being unable to get the ball out wider than Kerevi.

After we worked out a few issues around dealing with the rush defence Kerevi was making easy metres, beating defenders and had 3 line breaks.

The reality was we didn't need to get the ball wider on first phase. Our problem was turning those linebreaks in to points and getting our backline involved again on the next phase after making those metres initially.

Our attacking stats were significantly better than South Africa's. We botched simple tries and made big errors giving away tries at the other end.
 

chasmac

Dave Cowper (27)
Slim - essentially I agree.

Moreover: IMO if we look very closely at Cheika's manifest (by results) failings as an HC, the most compelling failure in areas of specialist coaching has been in two dimensions: (a) Cheika's continuing refusal to appoint a true specialist forwards coach (by which I do not mean scrum coach) and (b), related, his insistence that only he can and should perform that role. He performs this chosen role self-dedication very badly, he clearly thinks he knows how to do it, but does not.

The result has been that in the entire 2015-2019 period there has been zero improvement is the general calibre and _effectiveness_ (as distinct from stats) of, particularly, our forwards work in open plan and the loose, in consistent gain line penetration across 80 minutes, in multiple productive carries beyond 1 metre, in breakdown productivity and time and space winning opposition ball-slowing, forwards offloading and linking skills in fast play, and so on.

We are simply not of sufficient class in these Test-turning attributes and routinely obsess over back line constitution and selection (or simply rely on our yearning for Pocock - yeah right, at 8 FFS) when our far deeper and more expensive problems lie in the low productivity and core skills of our forwards, especially and critically, in broken play.

Given that it is blindingly obvious that (c) L Fisher is by repute and results considered one of the best forwards coaches in the world, certainly in this hemisphere and (d) the calibre of his contribution can be clearly seen in the skills and success of the 2019 Brumbies forwards _as a group_, it beggars belief that in a RWC year he was not asked to join the Wallabies coaching set-up as forwards coach. Anyone who cannot see the need for this role within the current Wallaby environment is blind to the needs of the modern international game and/or blind to Cheika's coaching delinquencies.

(And don't get me started re how, in a RWC year, RA and Cheika think it's OK to (e) only appoint a Wallaby attack coach in May 2019 and (f) make that appointment as someone who's not succeeded at all in his most recent Super role as attack coach and whom is skin-deep in Test level attack coaching. I mean, this is not serious, this is not management, it's laughable.)


RH, this is a comment typical of other comments you have posted over the years. Critical of the current structure within the coaching ranks. I tend to agree but have less knowledge on the issue. How much of the issue do you think is down to the fact that RA is essentially broke and the coaches we have are all that they can afford at the moment.
Further question. If you could change 2 things that directly impact the structure of rugby in Australia then what would they be? E.g. NRC. Western Force. SAANZAR. Vote allocation on the RA board. Junior Development. Place for schoolboy rugby. Centralised contracts. Giteau Rule. Free to Air. Fuck this is a long list off the top of the head with only 60 seconds thought. Under achieving shits me. I'm off to kick a Sherrin.
 

Derpus

George Gregan (70)
RH, this is a comment typical of other comments you have posted over the years. Critical of the current structure within the coaching ranks. I tend to agree but have less knowledge on the issue. How much of the issue do you think is down to the fact that RA is essentially broke and the coaches we have are all that they can afford at the moment.
Further question. If you could change 2 things that directly impact the structure of rugby in Australia then what would they be? E.g. NRC. Western Force. SAANZAR. Vote allocation on the RA board. Junior Development. Place for schoolboy rugby. Centralised contracts. Giteau Rule. Free to Air. Fuck this is a long list off the top of the head with only 60 seconds thought. Under achieving shits me. I'm off to kick a Sherrin.
wrong thread.
 

PaarlBok

Rod McCall (65)
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