Waratahs 2020

[The Grey Man]

Will they manage to recruit the other 60 fans to break the 500 people gathered in one place law for home games?

 

[The Grey Man]

Hugh Roach is on the bench for the Crusaders against the Sunwolves in Brisbane.

Hugh will have quite an extensive range of Players Jumpers and Team merch by now.

 

[molman]

Hugh Roach is on the bench for the Crusaders against the Sunwolves in Brisbane.

Yeah I heard he was called in. Was mean't to be heading off to London Irish last I heard about him. Quick google brought this up which summarises things;

https://i.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/s...ebels-hooker-hugh-roach-rushed-into-crusaders

Going to be odd seeing him in Red and I'll be curious to see if yet another NZ team can get more out of a player than our AU teams seemed able too.

 

[molman]

Not that the Waratahs have great crowds to start with but with no gate takings you would think they will be close to insolvent and even when the ban is lifted with the virus they will still be wandering nomads with no new stadium probably till 2022 at best.

Directors and Roger Davis need to be careful they don’t trade insolvent.

I'd wonder if there are is any form of insurance against such an event? I know some of the larger 6 Nation events are insured.

 

[TSR]

I actually wondered if they would make more if the games were insured then they would have from gate takings?

I doubt they would have gone over the top in insurance - but I’d also expect they’d have something in place.

 

[RugbyReg]

Yeah I heard he was called in. Was mean't to be heading off to London Irish last I heard about him. Quick google brought this up which summarises things;

https://i.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/s...ebels-hooker-hugh-roach-rushed-into-crusaders

Going to be odd seeing him in Red and I'll be curious to see if yet another NZ team can get more out of a player than our AU teams seemed able too.

who are the other examples? Jack Debrezceni? Sef Faagase? Digby Ioane? Chris Kuridrani? Mike Ala'alatoa?

 

[wamberal]

Tyrel Lomax? BTW, Hugh Roach is a good club footballer, but is just too small for the big time. I doubt that either the Crusaders or London Irish can do much about that.

 

[qwerty51]

who are the other examples? Jack Debrezceni? Sef Faagase? Digby Ioane? Chris Kuridrani? Mike Ala'alatoa?

Mike Ala'alatoa would be the only one I would consider.

 

[Up the Guts]

Lomax was pretty young when he left so I’m not sure he hasn’t just improved with age. Angus Ta’avao is the real standout for me, he was horrible for the Tahs but has AB caps now.

 

[qwerty51]

Yeh that's fair although he was already decent at the Blues. Probably just lacked motivation here.

 

[wamberal]

Lomax was pretty young when he left so I’m not sure he hasn’t just improved with age. Angus Ta’avao is the real standout for me, he was horrible for the Tahs but has AB caps now.

He was horrible at the club level, from what I saw of him.

 

[mst]

Yeah I heard he was called in. Was mean't to be heading off to London Irish last I heard about him. Quick google brought this up which summarises things;

https://i.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/s...ebels-hooker-hugh-roach-rushed-into-crusaders

Going to be odd seeing him in Red and I'll be curious to see if yet another NZ team can get can fail (for the first time) to get more out of a player than our AU teams seemed able too.

Fixed

 

[molman]

who are the other examples? Jack Debrezceni? Sef Faagase? Digby Ioane? Chris Kuridrani? Mike Ala'alatoa?

Angus Ta'avao as Up The Guts mention is definitely one that comes to mind (and who I was thinking of), but some of the others you listed also. Debrezceni definitely improved over his stint at the Rebels. Nadolo arguable only came into his own at the Crusaders. Mike looked dramatically better than when at the Tahs.

 

[Bobby Sands]

Who was that bloke in here who didn’t rate Curwin Bosch again?

That hasn’t aged well.

 

[Froggy]

End of the season surely a mercy killing for the Tahs

 

[molman]

End of the season surely a mercy killing for the Tahs

Not really. The players need more game time (especially the young lads) and Penney needs more time to tinker for next year so he can start to work out who is in and out.

 

[Froggy]

I wasn’t being serious Molman

 

[Pfitzy]

I wasn’t being serious Molman

I'm still not going to retract my "Like"

 

[Jimmy_Crouch]

Angus Ta'avao as Up The Guts mention is definitely one that comes to mind (and who I was thinking of), but some of the others you listed also. Debrezceni definitely improved over his stint at the Rebels. Nadolo arguable only came into his own at the Crusaders. Mike looked dramatically better than when at the Tahs.

Couple of points but some players just develop and mature with age and in different situations. I would say that Mitre 10 Cup opportunity has more to do with it than anything else
- Ta'avao played 50 odd games for the Blues before coming to the Tahs and if the Chiefs hadn't had six frontrow injuries in 2018 Ta'avao wouldn't have been called in.
- Debrezceni currently no super rugby contract
- Nadolo also played in England, France and Japan before the Crusaders.
- Ala'alatoa moved to NZ at 23 to play Mitre 10. Looking for a level above NRC. Most props develop a little later.

 

[Derpus]

Isnt M 5As All Black eligible and in a position where the Wallabies actually have depth. Hes certainly not as good as his brother and Tupou has years left at the top.

Stay home and get the odd squad spot or move and have a crack at the All Blacks?