Melbourne Rebels 2024
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Dan54
Tim Horan (67)
Yep aree completely, didn't mean otherwise, but you kind of get what I mean, for you need to be able to see near the top of the sporting codes to be successful on tv and crowds etc. I just mentioned it because some were talking about Hockey and basketball player numbers, and I don't see it as really having much to do with sports following? I would guess Basketball Aus etc would get of merchandise rights etc of Aus basketball etc, but wouldn't be much would it?
molman
Peter Johnson (47)
What I was trying to inject was some reflection on these statements that Rugby Union should be looking at the examples set by other sports is rather silly. Rugby Union has its own unique dynamics that are so different from these other sports.
Also, I'd challenge that Hockey participation numbers are huge. 125,000 registered players across a country of 26million is far from huge. The economics around field hockey is so different. Last I looked Hockey Australia's reported revenue was primarily government grants.
molman
Peter Johnson (47)
Agree. Lots of council courts, hoops on houses plus increasing indoor facilities for all season/weather play. Small team sizes and number of players required for a game compared to a lot of other team sports. Little equipment required. Little contact concerns like contact sports. Good uptake in schools who increasingly have courts. Couple that with the NBA and it's not a hard product to market and the market growth is understandable. It also doesn't compete directly with many other sports except maybe Netball somewhat.
SouthernX
Jim Lenehan (48)
regards basketball it’s no2 most popular outside sports in the world (behind futbol)
most popular indoor sports in the world.
Australian men’s basketball program is really starting to see the spoils of what Michael Jordan impact left on the game.
off topic: I’m also seeing a few colts rugby players now coming thru the ranks with the name Lebron (rebels have their own Lebron who’s a pretty handy midfielder)
most popular indoor sports in the world.
Australian men’s basketball program is really starting to see the spoils of what Michael Jordan impact left on the game.
off topic: I’m also seeing a few colts rugby players now coming thru the ranks with the name Lebron (rebels have their own Lebron who’s a pretty handy midfielder)
Strewthcobber
Andrew Slack (58)
Maybe not directly, but ask any lock what sport most people assume they play, and rugby isn't their first guess.....
A strong basketball culture is just one more challange we are almost unique in having to face in World Rugby (except obv France, Italy and NZ)
Jimmy_Crouch
Ken Catchpole (46)
Could have done it two seasons ago if he kicked straight
Highlander35
Andrew Slack (58)
He had To'omua and Hodge kicking for us up until this year.
Scooter
John Solomon (38)
It is interesting that we are talking about other sports. Molman mentioned netball.
Netball has large participation numbers but have struggled to turn that into fans. There is a cross section of social netballers who don't even know Super Netball exists. There has been to a large extent poor engagement between Super Netball teams / state Netball associations and grassroots Netball.
A lot of marketing of Super Netball and events relating to Super Netball are aimed at 9 or 10 year old girls which doesn't appeal to interested adults.
The governance of Netball Australia has been of a similar standard to that of RA.
Netball has large participation numbers but have struggled to turn that into fans. There is a cross section of social netballers who don't even know Super Netball exists. There has been to a large extent poor engagement between Super Netball teams / state Netball associations and grassroots Netball.
A lot of marketing of Super Netball and events relating to Super Netball are aimed at 9 or 10 year old girls which doesn't appeal to interested adults.
The governance of Netball Australia has been of a similar standard to that of RA.
Scooter
John Solomon (38)
Surely Gordon should have got bonus points for the conversion he kicked under the cross bar.
Jimmy_Crouch
Ken Catchpole (46)
Lighten up it was a joke
Brumby Runner
David Wilson (68)
The Melbourne way of doing things.
Highlander35
Andrew Slack (58)
I would love to us consider:
Louwrens, C Gordon, Vaihu/Lancaster, Jooste, Proctor, Daugunu, Kellaway, RES: Tuttle, Feliuai, Anderson
For our backs next week, presuming fitness.
It's not necessarily... the style? we've been playing, but it puts our really strong communicators in important defensive positions, and puts our two biggest attacking weapons out wide with a lot of space.
Louwrens, C Gordon, Vaihu/Lancaster, Jooste, Proctor, Daugunu, Kellaway, RES: Tuttle, Feliuai, Anderson
For our backs next week, presuming fitness.
It's not necessarily... the style? we've been playing, but it puts our really strong communicators in important defensive positions, and puts our two biggest attacking weapons out wide with a lot of space.
Pone's Mullet
Alex Ross (28)
Interesting point of view I've pinched from the Roar about the Rebs (thanks Piccolino whoever you are) - "I think the point is by partering with the consortium, Rebels don’t have to make a profit. Instead, having a local A league and Super Rugby team drives up the value of the land they bought cheap in Western Melbourne. So long as the team losses are less than the value uplift from their commercial land, the Rebels are a good investment and their losses are worth funding. If it justifies a metro line being funded it will be a particularly good investment for the consortium'
Adam84
Nick Farr-Jones (63)
Yeah I mentioned this earlier in the thread, however the issue with this is it’s not a sustainable business model longer term, land owned by them is finite and developers aren’t known for giving a shit about their developments past settlement date.
KevinO
Geoff Shaw (53)
Actually quite happy with the win over Drua, when you consider who was missing.
Wilkin, Leota, Kemeny, Kellaway, Anderson. That's 33% of your starting lineup.
20 and 23 season, 23 points secured 8th place. We are currently sitting on 19, 9th is on 9 points. So two more wins from the remaining 7 games should all but assure the Rebels of finals rugby for the first time (I don't agree with a top 8) But this year ill take it.
Wilkin, Leota, Kemeny, Kellaway, Anderson. That's 33% of your starting lineup.
20 and 23 season, 23 points secured 8th place. We are currently sitting on 19, 9th is on 9 points. So two more wins from the remaining 7 games should all but assure the Rebels of finals rugby for the first time (I don't agree with a top 8) But this year ill take it.
Strewthcobber
Andrew Slack (58)
Makes sense for the consortium, but they will fund the "loss making" Rebels through debt, any profits being taken by the company, and if/when they want to exit (say the gov doesn't build the train line) or the consortium goes bust, then any new owners, including VRU or RA, would have to pay off the debt first.
Dctarget
John Eales (66)
Rebels are really 2nd half heros. We've lost 5/7 first halves so far. Our 1st half points differential is -71 and our 2nd half points differential is +38.
In other terms, we've scored 73 points and let in 144 in the first half. In the 2nd half we scored 129 and let in 91.
Guess this points to our relatively weak starting XV but strong bench. Or Kevin's halftime pump ups.
In other terms, we've scored 73 points and let in 144 in the first half. In the 2nd half we scored 129 and let in 91.
Guess this points to our relatively weak starting XV but strong bench. Or Kevin's halftime pump ups.
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Strewthcobber
Andrew Slack (58)
What's the points differential for when Tupou is on and off the field?
Dctarget
John Eales (66)
Despite him playing more games off the bench, there's not much of a correlation. He started the games against the Force & Reds, where we got handily smacked in the first half then piled on the points in the 2nd when he was off the field.