Under Burkey's Law, Campo is well and truly entitled to act like a dickhead whenever he likes.
Where to for quality Rugby journalism???
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The second best bit of this storm in a Coffee cup is the nostalgic comments below the article like:
"I can understand where Campo is coming from and of course Growden is a very hard act to follow !"
"I just assumed it was part of Fairfax's cost cutting. I do miss Greg's wit though."
I have opined in the Quade Tells It Like it Is Thread, that World Rugby was blessed that Twitter wasn't around in the mid 80's, otherwise we would have not seen Campo make 101 Test Caps. This provides the evidence to support that assertion.
"I can understand where Campo is coming from and of course Growden is a very hard act to follow !"
"I just assumed it was part of Fairfax's cost cutting. I do miss Greg's wit though."
I have opined in the Quade Tells It Like it Is Thread, that World Rugby was blessed that Twitter wasn't around in the mid 80's, otherwise we would have not seen Campo make 101 Test Caps. This provides the evidence to support that assertion.
The Red Baron
Chilla Wilson (44)
Slightly off topic, but Reggie Miller played for the Pacers, didn't he? He could nail a basket from anywhere, so Cheryl must have been a damn good player.
Inside Shoulder
Nathan Sharpe (72)
Because he's been a dickhead at the highest level?
Schadenfreude
John Solomon (38)
Is the problem with Robinson that she's insightful and intelligent? There aren't many better rugby writers about these days. Eales and Mackenzie, but they also have an angle.
Richo
John Thornett (49)
Yes, and yes. She's regarded as the best female player of all time. Growing up, she kicked his butt all over the place.
A great anecdote: Reggie, in high school, had one of his best games -- scored 50+ points. On the car ride home, he was talking trash to his sister and dad about how good he was, etc. They started laughing and he asked what his sister scored. She had 110 points.
Edit: the numbers might be off, but you get the gist.
Jethro Tah
Bob Loudon (25)
ESPN is Growden's new employer so you can be sure the quality of journalism will lift. He will do web posts and TV spots. The Australian breaks the news here.
Growden will team up on ESPN TV with Matt Burke and Duncan McRae. It would be a sight if Ronan O'Gara got a TV gig covering the Lions tour for Sky UK and happened to bump into McRae doing sideline comments on the Tahs v Lions game next year
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en_force_er
Geoff Shaw (53)
Not that it's been asked for but I feel like giving my two cents on this particularly interesting situation.
My opinion on Campo:
The blokes a dinosaur in every non-literal sense of the word.
He's a "why can't rugby can't be EXACTLY like it used to?" type of bloke that I personally despise and are sadly hugely over represented in our game. It's one thing to look to the past to benefit the future but it's another entirely to whine and whine to the detriment of the present day.
Campo displayed how much of a dinosaur he was outside of rugby when he tweeted a sexist remark without even realising it. This is the worst kind of sexism in my opinion, the kind that slips out in a brain fart. It's terrible to see because it's hard to nail down, easy for the source to defend, and worst of all it's a reflection of a society with subconscious opinions that are not changing as quickly as we would like to pretend.
My opinion on G.Robinson:
I've been pretty shocked to see people come out in defence of Georgia Robinson's journalistic quality. I even remember reading a post on this forum where a user referred to her as insightful.
Her SMH work to date has been pretty unnoteable, writing fluff pieces and general happenings (suspensions, injuries, etc.). Nothing particularly insightful, thought provoking, or fun (Growden seemed to be death riding rugby, but his rumours/titbits column was always amusing).
Now this isn't to say she isn't a great intellect or even a great journalist with great insight into rugby, but as of now she's doing the job Rugby Heaven/SMH want her to do. So lets not pretend she's something that she's not.
This is not to say women can't be good rugby writers, in fact the best rugby article I've ever read was a profile piece written by Jacqueline Maley for SMH of all things. Ironically to this whole situation I don't think she even has a rugby background (though for the purpose of saving face, I'm not 100% sure).
Read it here: http://www.smh.com.au/rugby-union/australia-rugby/code-of-honour-20121105-28sto.html
My opinion on Campo:
The blokes a dinosaur in every non-literal sense of the word.
He's a "why can't rugby can't be EXACTLY like it used to?" type of bloke that I personally despise and are sadly hugely over represented in our game. It's one thing to look to the past to benefit the future but it's another entirely to whine and whine to the detriment of the present day.
Campo displayed how much of a dinosaur he was outside of rugby when he tweeted a sexist remark without even realising it. This is the worst kind of sexism in my opinion, the kind that slips out in a brain fart. It's terrible to see because it's hard to nail down, easy for the source to defend, and worst of all it's a reflection of a society with subconscious opinions that are not changing as quickly as we would like to pretend.
My opinion on G.Robinson:
I've been pretty shocked to see people come out in defence of Georgia Robinson's journalistic quality. I even remember reading a post on this forum where a user referred to her as insightful.
Her SMH work to date has been pretty unnoteable, writing fluff pieces and general happenings (suspensions, injuries, etc.). Nothing particularly insightful, thought provoking, or fun (Growden seemed to be death riding rugby, but his rumours/titbits column was always amusing).
Now this isn't to say she isn't a great intellect or even a great journalist with great insight into rugby, but as of now she's doing the job Rugby Heaven/SMH want her to do. So lets not pretend she's something that she's not.
This is not to say women can't be good rugby writers, in fact the best rugby article I've ever read was a profile piece written by Jacqueline Maley for SMH of all things. Ironically to this whole situation I don't think she even has a rugby background (though for the purpose of saving face, I'm not 100% sure).
Read it here: http://www.smh.com.au/rugby-union/australia-rugby/code-of-honour-20121105-28sto.html
Inside Shoulder
Nathan Sharpe (72)
This isn't entirely on point - but its reported by a journalist and I dont think it deserves a thread of its own. It is the greatest put down of the 13 man game I have seen for a good while:
hawktrain
Ted Thorn (20)
Robinson hasn't written anything overly analytical, just mainly reporting on what happened rather than giving too much of her opinion, and I quite like it. She's definitely a lot more tolerable than Growden. Here's hoping she does what he never did, and that's mention club rugby for positive reasons.
Does Georgina listen to the Radio?
p.Tah
John Thornett (49)
Can someone tell me if this article actually tells us anything? Titled:
How? What? Absolute rubbish article.
https://sslcam.news.com.au/cam/auth...te-for-christmas/story-e6frg7o6-1226578252048
How? What? Absolute rubbish article.
https://sslcam.news.com.au/cam/auth...te-for-christmas/story-e6frg7o6-1226578252048
The Red Baron
Chilla Wilson (44)
That was a nothing article. If Bret Harris wanted to leave his readers confused as to what he was actually talking about, job done.
Poorly written and purely speculative.
Poorly written and purely speculative.
Bruce Ross
Ken Catchpole (46)
Tim Horan, predictably, setting the bar high in season 2013:
"The battle I'm looking forward to tonight is Liam Gill verse Michael Hooper."
Obviously expecting Gill to spout poetry at Hooper, Muhammed Ali style.
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"The battle I'm looking forward to tonight is Liam Gill verse Michael Hooper."
Obviously expecting Gill to spout poetry at Hooper, Muhammed Ali style.
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Bruce Ross
Ken Catchpole (46)
Horan's trumped himself:
"He's not happy, Ashley Cooper. I'm pretty sure he's on the ground." - as the camera zooms in on him, prostrate, as the medicos work on him.
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"He's not happy, Ashley Cooper. I'm pretty sure he's on the ground." - as the camera zooms in on him, prostrate, as the medicos work on him.
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Bruce Ross
Ken Catchpole (46)
Horan's on fire:
"What it does for the Waratahs. They've got two first receivers who can play fly-half."
"What it does for the Waratahs. They've got two first receivers who can play fly-half."
The Red Baron
Chilla Wilson (44)
Horan is an absolute shocker. Clarke knows no-one except the 'big names'. Cannon has had one too many head knocks. Marto is a fool. Kearns = Marto. Kafe isn't too bad.
God we need new commentators.
God we need new commentators.