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Like Grammar and James Stratton, Newington and Seb Rees seem to have a similar reliance. Does any one have any info regarding the other members of the Newington side?
Aha hahahahAs a member of the Newington 1sts I believe it is my time to enter the conversation.
I am Sam Wallace and it is only proper that I dismiss the glaring assertion above. I will concede, Seb is certainly strong but by no means far above myself. In fact, more than anything else, he has been an opportunist of circumstance. It is me and Ben Adams that provide the backbone of the side.
Newington will be strong this year, no doubt. James Stratton beware!
As a member of the Newington 1sts I believe it is my time to enter the conversation.
I am Sam Wallace and it is only proper that I dismiss the glaring assertion above. I will concede, Seb is certainly strong but by no means far above myself. In fact, more than anything else, he has been an opportunist of circumstance. It is me and Ben Adams that provide the backbone of the side.
Newington will be strong this year, no doubt. James Stratton beware!
Was anyone in attendance at the Senior A Final?
I'd be interested to know how the two teams performed, topic etc.
Spot on, aka_the_think. Where were you in the audience? I was in the front-left in the Knox side of the room. I was incredibly disappointed by the other two Grammar students. The fact that they had to reschedule the debate vs Joeys just so that they could have Stratton shows how reliant the team is this year. Next year they'll become beatable and very vulnerable.
What did you guys think of the MacDonald debate this year if you happened to see it? I heard it was close and a split decision that went to Riverview again.
For debating standards, I think Archdale and GPS are overall better debater quality than ISDA.
Hi All
As a keen Yr11 debater from a Sydney school (although for privacy reasons I have chose to post under a pseudonym) this is a highly informative and interesting forum for me, and this level of analysis of the current state of major competitions and teams is a great addition to the debating world!
I was hoping to start a discussion surrounding the selections and competition details for the Reps season coming up, as I would like some more information on the CHS, CAS, GPS and Archdale Teams. The CAS website says that the team will be selected at the end of the season - any tips on who might be strong? They lost a good speaker in Harry Roger - who was on the NSW team, and is the strongest CAS speaker I am aware of, although some have suggested that Robbie Ferguson is a strong speaker. The CHS Trials according to the Arts Unit website are at the end of this term. I would assume that the four Yr 11 debaters last year (Marcus McCullogh, Janek Drevikovsky, Theodora von Armin and Riley Irwin) will comprise the firsts.
I am interested in other forum members picks for the teams? How are the Archdale and GPS Squads selected? I would also suggest James Stratton and Seb Rees would be on the firsts reps team, as well as Sophia Large and Imogen Harper, for Archdale, given that they are all listed as on the NSW state debating team.
Look forward to your thoughts!
Incorrect mate, Riverview went down to a strong Aloys side - Lorenzo Benitez's performance was particularly meritorious.
This year GPS is probably slightly better standard than ISDA, though in general ISDA is the cream of the crop.
For CAS Robbie Ferguson is strong, and Liam Thorne, of Aloys, made the state top 12. I've seen Aloys a number of times, and all 3 of them are strong, including the aforementioned and Lorenzo Benitez - a 2nd speaker - I wouldn't be surprised if they push Knox for the title and also get a few into the rep side.
For GPS Seb Rees and Stratton are guaranteed (they were both in the side in both 2012 and 2013). The other speaker will be interesting - I don't believe any other GPS reps made the state squad (top 12), though a few including Alex Babbidge made the top 24. State squads aren't necessarily the best indicators of these things though, as it's often the case that certain people won't try out, so who knows - there could be a few speakers from kings, scots, riverview, sbhs or any of the less favoured schools that might make it.
For CHS the aforementioned will surely be contenders, though NSW reserve Eden Blair would also have to be up there. Brendan Ma, from Ruse, is also a strong speaker, having been named best speaker at the CHS Junior state champs (or a name to that effect).
For Archdale, again, the aforementioned will be up there.
On a side note, the USU Senior Schools day is next Friday, and the Australian Jesuit Debating Carnival (featuring Aloys, Riverview, Xavier and others) is in melbourne later in the holidays. Should be some interesting high school results over the break, with Aloys shaping as firm favourites in the latter.
Incorrect mate, Riverview went down to a strong Aloys side - Lorenzo Benitez's performance was particularly meritorious.
This year GPS is probably slightly better standard than ISDA, though in general ISDA is the cream of the crop.
For CAS Robbie Ferguson is strong, and Liam Thorne, of Aloys, made the state top 12. I've seen Aloys a number of times, and all 3 of them are strong, including the aforementioned and Lorenzo Benitez - a 2nd speaker - I wouldn't be surprised if they push Knox for the title and also get a few into the rep side.
For GPS Seb Rees and Stratton are guaranteed (they were both in the side in both 2012 and 2013). The other speaker will be interesting - I don't believe any other GPS reps made the state squad (top 12), though a few including Alex Babbidge made the top 24. State squads aren't necessarily the best indicators of these things though, as it's often the case that certain people won't try out, so who knows - there could be a few speakers from kings, scots, riverview, sbhs or any of the less favoured schools that might make it.
For CHS the aforementioned will surely be contenders, though NSW reserve Eden Blair would also have to be up there. Brendan Ma, from Ruse, is also a strong speaker, having been named best speaker at the CHS Junior state champs (or a name to that effect).
For Archdale, again, the aforementioned will be up there.
On a side note, the USU Senior Schools day is next Friday, and the Australian Jesuit Debating Carnival (featuring Aloys, Riverview, Xavier and others) is in melbourne later in the holidays. Should be some interesting high school results over the break, with Aloys shaping as firm favourites in the latter.
Dunno what's up with the sudden praise for this Lorenzo who hasn't been mentioned till now. Did he make state? If not, then why're we even talking about him? It's clear that you're spruiking him because you're either his father, brother, or best friend.
Hmm, interesting aka_the_think. I believe James the Second (Pacino) was also on the state squad? Surely he would then be a contender, however I have not personally seen him debate, so I couldn't say for sure. And with regard to CHS, they apparently only allow year 11 and 12 debaters on the team, and I though the Eden Blair was only in Year 10? Perhaps I am mistaken on that front, however I have not seen her in any senior tournaments. Anticipating a strong Rep season this year, the 2014 field is, in my opinion particularily outstanding, with a handful of up and comers from Year 11, so looking good!