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Federal Coalition Government 2013-?

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John Thornett (49)
Remember when Rinehart flew Joyce, Bishop and Gambaro to the marriage of the grand-daughter of G.V. Krishna Reddy, the billionaire Indian resource magnate?

The sitting Resources Minister, Martin Ferguson declined the invitation.

http://www.smh.com.au/federal-polit...s-study-claim-for-wedding-20131005-2v13w.html

Less than 12 months later GVK and Adani are approved for the world's largest coal mine.

http://www.smh.com.au/business/mini...proved-amid-weaker-prices-20140728-zxnft.html

This should be ruffling far more feathers than it currently is.
 

boyo

Mark Ella (57)
Lousy days loom for small businesses bombarded by job-seekers



Read more: http://www.smh.com.au/federal-politics/political-opinion/lousy-days-loom-for-small-businesses-bombarded-by-jobseekers-20140728-3cpxb.html#ixzz38phK3xEo


''They will be inundated,'' says Peter Strong of the Council of Small Business of Australia. ''It's an embarrassment for everybody and it's going to make people angry. The small business person might be having a lousy day and no customers are coming in, but she'll be getting job-seekers. In the hospitality industry most of the time you know straight away whether someone can pour a cup of coffee. You don't want that person coming back month after month.''

 

boyo

Mark Ella (57)
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Mark Ella (57)
Sorting fact from fiction in dole policy

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2014-07-30/jericho-sorting-fact-from-fiction-in-dole-policy/5631940

"When the Government starts relying on anecdotes and stereotypes over obvious facts to formulate its work for the dole policy, alarm bells should be ringing, writes Greg Jericho."

"To paraphraseTim Minchin, if anecdotal evidence was any good, it'd be called evidence."

"Moreover the current rate for Newstartis $510.50 a fortnight- $13,273 a year. Given anyone earning less than $19,700 after tax is in thebottom 10 per cent of Australian households, those on Newstart are among the poorest of all Australians.
You would have to be either extremely deluded, or a member of the Cabinet to think people are choosing to stay on such an income.
But such delusions aside one of the other problems is that the measures announced are mostly designed to fix a problem that doesn't exist, because given the scarcity of jobs available the level of unemployment is consistent with what it has been in the past.
Senator Abetz might like to think that "when jobs are sparse, it means that you've got to apply for more jobs to get a job", but the reality is people are more likely to get a job if there are more jobs on offer (bizarre I know!)."

"As the RBA noted in its November 2013 statement of monetary policy, "the significant decline in the vacancy rate since mid 2011 has coincided with a smaller increase in the unemployment rate than the average historical relationship would have indicated."
And the latest figures in May has the level of job vacancies and unemployment rate pretty much bang on, if not a bit better than, the 20 year average."
 

boyo

Mark Ella (57)


Treasurer Joe Hockey admits to a New Zealand audience there never was any Australian budget emergency, yet the ABC don't think it's newsworthy. Managing editor David Donovan reports.

DO YOU REMEMBER the "budget emergency"? Also sometimes known as the "debt crisis" and "debt and deficit disaster"?
You may have heard Tony Abbott use that last one ten times in a single five minute reply in Parliamentary question time. It has been used relentlessly by the Government – from PM, to Treasurer, to the lowliest backbencher – to justify a Budget of savage spending cuts, largely directed at low-income, disadvantaged Australians.
Well, funny thing about that — turns out the budget emergency doesn't exist.

The Coalition lie about lying, yet they profess to be "the ones you can trust".
 

boyo

Mark Ella (57)
Clive Palmer hits out at 'failed' budget, calls for double dissolution

Read more: http://www.smh.com.au/federal-politics/political-news/clive-palmer-hits-out-at-failed-budget-calls-for-double-dissolution-20140730-3cuj2.html#ixzz38zyzInmP


"The leader of the Palmer United Party also accused Treasurer Joe Hockey of lying by suggesting Australia could lose its AAA credit rating, and while he declared his in-principle support for the work-for-the-dole program, he was ''totally opposed'' to job seekers having to apply for 40 jobs a month."

This, yesterday:-

AAA to stay for Australia, says S&P
http://www.smh.com.au/business/aaa-to-stay-for-australia-says-sp-20140729-3cs35.html

The Coalition lie about lying, yet they profess to be "the ones you can trust".
 

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Andrew Slack (58)
Please. Let's not start tallying up labour vs liberal lying.

Like some have noted in the media. The coalition fucked up by calling it a budget crisis. They should have been more eloquent in describing a potential crisis if things carried on the way they did. But the spin doctors n doubt through that was too weak a message. It's backfiring now, that's for sure.

When the SMH proudly starts to quote Palmer to support it's own twisted message, you know something is horribly wrong.
 
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Tony Shaw (54)
Please. Let's not start tallying up labour vs liberal lying.

Like some have noted in the media. The coalition fucked up by calling it a budget crisis. They should have been more eloquent in describing a potential crisis if things carried on the way they did. But the spin doctors n doubt through that was too weak a message. It's backfiring now, that's for sure.

When the SMH proudly starts to quote Palmer to support it's own twisted message, you know something is horribly wrong.

It's backfiring because it was a fucking outright lie. A lie that they based the majority of their campaign and subsequent policies on and it's all bullshit. They did it knowingly and consistently over and over and over again. They lied to the public to achieve power and then used the same lie to claim they have a mandate from the people.

So please lets not sugar coat it by saying they could've been more eloquent, and that labor lied also. It is what it is and it's disgraceful.
 

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Nev Cottrell (35)
It's backfiring because it was a fucking outright lie. A lie that they based the majority of their campaign and subsequent policies on and it's all bullshit. They did it knowingly and consistently over and over and over again. They lied to the public to achieve power and then used the same lie to claim they have a mandate from the people.

So please lets not sugar coat it by saying they could've been more eloquent, and that labor lied also. It is what it is and it's disgraceful.

If someone tells you a disaster is coming then it is prudent to prepare as it will avoid the real crisis. Look at other publications that say we do have a crisis in the making. People such as Chris Richards, who unlike many of the other economists quoted, is a budget specialist having worked in that area in treasury.

Economists come in a range of specialities so asking a health one about the buget as a whole may not be accurate.

The Libs atleast didn't go on about that there would be a budget surplus like Swan and co.

The senate holding up the budget will assure us that things will get worse. Labor here is just opportunistic with the balance of power given to them by a micro party rigging of the voting system which is what I suspect most Australians can't believe happened. Ricki Muir with a fraction of a percent is now a senator. Ok its the system but does it reflect the will of the people.

ALP needs to learn that although TA is not doing well in the polls, at an election people want their will reflected just ask Rudd. They wanted their go at him.
 

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Nev Cottrell (35)
Yet you stridently want to take the opposite approach to climate change.


Doesn't mean I am not correct on the budget.

I have not said that climate change is not happening.

I don't agree with the alarmists about man's CO2 effects.

As I have said before methane is more a problem but I don't see the same vigour to prevent that but killing all sheep and cattle

Also the alternatives such as solar and wind are not viable. When I have mentiuoned nuclear as ok there is often the usual Green inspired hysteria.
 

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George Gregan (70)
When I have mentiuoned nuclear as ok there is often the usual Green inspired hysteria.


I think nuclear is the fucking way - its the only sustainable energy source we can take into space with us when we've finished fisting Mother Earth in every hole she's got.

Plus, the big issue with Nuclear in the past has been cost-cutting the failsafes that are "just in case" options. Funnily enough, "just in case" is what happens when accountants and not engineers design nuclear power plants, and we end up with a bad reputation for nuclear because something went wrong.
 
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