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Shute Shield 2014

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Hugh Jarse

Rocky Elsom (76)
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Who has been hassling the Scoreboard Attendants?
(First Grade only to Round 18)

Top 10 Point Scorers
Hamish ANGUS, Warringah, (17), 192 points (3T 39C 33PG)
Dane CHISHOLM, Manly, (12), 191 points (10T 51C 13PG)
David HARVEY, West Harbour, (13), 150 points (4T 38C 18PG)
Daniel KELLY, Sydney University, (11), 134 points (2T 44C 12PG)
Ben BATGER, Eastwood, (17), 129 points (6T 33C 11PG)
Rohan SAIFOLOI, Southern Districts, (13), 127 points (29C 22PG 1FG)
Robert MATE, Penrith, (18), 122 points (1T 39C 13PG)
Harrison BERGELIN, Manly, (18), 100 points (20T)
Pierre HOLA, Eastwood, (9), 94 points (1T 22C 15PG)
James DARGAVILLE, Sydney University, (18), 90 points (18T)

Note: Number in brackets is the number of run on starts the player has had.

Top 10 Golden Boots
Hamish ANGUS, Warringah, (17), 177 points (39C 33PG)
Dane CHISHOLM, Manly, (12), 141 points (51C 13PG)
David HARVEY, West Harbour, (13), 130 points (38C 18PG)
Rohan SAIFOLOI, Southern Districts, (13), 127 points (29C 22PG 1FG)
Daniel KELLY, Sydney University, (11), 124 points (44C 12PG)
Robert MATE, Penrith, (18), 117 points (39C 13PG)
Ben BATGER, Eastwood, (17), 99 points (33C 11PG)
Pierre HOLA, Eastwood, (9), 89 points (22C 15PG)
Tom WOODS, Parramatta, (9), 80 points (22C 12PG)
Jack GRANT, Northern Suburbs, (10), 66 points (12C 14PG)


Meat Pies
876 tries have been scored by 259 players (out of 554 players) [47%]
295 players have not tasted a meat pie [53%].
90 players have scored only 1 Try.
169 players have scored 2 or more Tries.
115 players have scored 3 or more Tries.
90 players have scored 4 or more Tries.
61 players have scored 5 or more Tries.
14 players average 1 try per fortnight.


Top Individual Try Scorers
Harrison BERGELIN, Manly, 20 tries, (18 starts)
James DARGAVILLE, Sydney University, 18 tries, (18 starts)
Nick BATGER, Eastwood, 16 tries, (17 starts)
John GRANT, Eastwood, 15 tries, (13 starts)
Joel BROOKS, West Harbour, 14 tries, (17 starts)
Henry CLUNIES-ROSS, Sydney University, 14 tries, (12 starts)
Sireli TAGICAKIBAU, Warringah, 12 tries, (18 starts)
Jarome MACKENZIE, Penrith, 12 tries, (13 starts)
Alexander NORTHAM, Manly, 12 tries, (8 starts)
Marcus CARBONE, Southern Districts, 10 tries, (18 starts)
Jed HOLLOWAY, Southern Districts, 10 tries, (16 starts)
Tito MUA, West Harbour, 10 tries, (15 starts)
Larry HERMENS, Parramatta, 10 tries, (14 starts)
Dane CHISHOLM, Manly, 10 tries, (12 starts)


Club Try Scoring
Manly: 116 Tries
Sydney University: 102 Tries
Eastwood: 94 Tries
West Harbour: 75 Tries
Parramatta: 74 Tries
Penrith: 68 Tries
Southern Districts: 68 Tries
Warringah: 67 Tries
Northern Suburbs: 57 Tries
Randwick: 54 Tries
Eastern Suburbs: 51 Tries
Gordon: 50 Tries

The Ducks Bum Award (for the least number of tries scored by their Opposition)
Manly: 42 Tries
Eastwood: 52 Tries
Sydney University: 53 Tries
Randwick: 59 Tries
Warringah: 65 Tries
Southern Districts: 70 Tries
Parramatta: 78 Tries
Gordon: 80 Tries
Eastern Suburbs: 81 Tries
Northern Suburbs: 88 Tries
West Harbour: 90 Tries
Penrith: 118 Tries


Good Attack or Bad Defence?
876 tries in 108 games (Average of 73 tries per team) [Average of 8.1 tries per game].

Conversion Kicking
Eastern Suburbs have converted 37 of the 50 tries they have scored (74%)
Southern Districts have converted 49 of the 67 tries they have scored (73%)
West Harbour have converted 50 of the 75 tries they have scored (67%)
Gordon have converted 33 of the 50 tries they have scored (66%)
Eastwood have converted 59 of the 92 tries they have scored (64%)
Across the Shute Shield, Clubs have converted 558 of the 872 tries they have scored (64%)
Northern Suburbs have converted 36 of the 57 tries they have scored (63%)
Manly have converted 73 of the 116 tries they have scored (63%)
Sydney University have converted 64 of the 102 tries they have scored (63%)
Warringah have converted 42 of the 67 tries they have scored (63%)
Penrith have converted 42 of the 68 tries they have scored (62%)
Randwick have converted 32 of the 54 tries they have scored (59%)
Parramatta have converted 41 of the 74 tries they have scored (55%)

Club Rotation/Depth
Sydney University: 60 players.
Randwick: 54 players.
Penrith: 51 players.
Manly: 49 players.
Parramatta: 47 players.
Eastern Suburbs: 46 players.
Southern Districts: 45 players.
Gordon: 44 players.
Eastwood: 42 players.
Northern Suburbs: 41 players.
Warringah: 41 players.
West Harbour: 38 players.

Benchwarmers
15 Players: 7 times
Randwick (2 - Round 5, Round 7)
Southern Districts (1 - Round 7)
Warringah (4 - Round 3, Round 4, Round 5, Round 15)

16 Players: 24 Times.
17 Players: 26 Times.
18 Players: 29 Times.
19 Players: 24 Times.
20 Players: 30 Times.
21 Players: 16 Times.
22 Players: 21 Times.
23 Players: 39 Times.

By Club
Eastern Suburbs Average: 19 Players. Full Bench Used: 1 time.
Eastwood Average: 20 Players. Full Bench Used: 4 times.
Gordon Average: 20 Players. Full Bench Used: 2 times.
Manly Average: 21 Players. Full Bench Used: 2 times.
Northern Suburbs Average: 18 Players. Full Bench Used: 1 time.
Parramatta Average: 19 Players. Full Bench Used: 1 time.
Penrith Average: 19 Players. Full Bench Used: 1 time.
Randwick Average: 20 Players. Full Bench Used: 7 times.
Southern Districts Average: 19 Players. Full Bench Used: 3 times.
Sydney University Average: 23 Players. Full Bench Used: 17 times.
Warringah Average: 18 Players. Full Bench Used: 0 times.
West Harbour Average: 18 Players. Full Bench Used: 0 times.


Last Update for 2014 folks.
 

Dave Beat

Paul McLean (56)
Top 10 Point Scorers
Hamish ANGUS, Warringah, (17), 192 points (3T 39C 33PG)
Dane CHISHOLM, Manly, (12), 191 points (10T 51C 13PG)
David HARVEY, West Harbour, (13), 150 points (4T 38C 18PG)
Daniel KELLY, Sydney University, (11), 134 points (2T 44C 12PG)
Ben BATGER, Eastwood, (17), 129 points (6T 33C 11PG)
Rohan SAIFOLOI, Southern Districts, (13), 127 points (29C 22PG 1FG)
Robert MATE, Penrith, (18), 122 points (1T 39C 13PG)
Harrison BERGELIN, Manly, (18), 100 points (20T)
Pierre HOLA, Eastwood, (9), 94 points (1T 22C 15PG)
James DARGAVILLE, Sydney University, (18), 90 points (18T)

Note: Number in brackets is the number of run on starts the player has had.

Top 10 Golden Boots
Hamish ANGUS, Warringah, (17), 177 points (39C 33PG)
Dane CHISHOLM, Manly, (12), 141 points (51C 13PG)
David HARVEY, West Harbour, (13), 130 points (38C 18PG)
Rohan SAIFOLOI, Southern Districts, (13), 127 points (29C 22PG 1FG)
Daniel KELLY, Sydney University, (11), 124 points (44C 12PG)
Robert MATE, Penrith, (18), 117 points (39C 13PG)
Ben BATGER, Eastwood, (17), 99 points (33C 11PG)
Pierre HOLA, Eastwood, (9), 89 points (22C 15PG)
Tom WOODS, Parramatta, (9), 80 points (22C 12PG)
Jack GRANT, Northern Suburbs, (10), 66 points (12C 14PG)


Meat Pies
876 tries have been scored by 259 players (out of 554 players) [47%]
295 players have not tasted a meat pie [53%].
90 players have scored only 1 Try.
169 players have scored 2 or more Tries.
115 players have scored 3 or more Tries.
90 players have scored 4 or more Tries.
61 players have scored 5 or more Tries.
14 players average 1 try per fortnight.


Top Individual Try Scorers
Harrison BERGELIN, Manly, 20 tries, (18 starts)
James DARGAVILLE, Sydney University, 18 tries, (18 starts)
Nick BATGER, Eastwood, 16 tries, (17 starts)
John GRANT, Eastwood, 15 tries, (13 starts)
Joel BROOKS, West Harbour, 14 tries, (17 starts)
Henry CLUNIES-ROSS, Sydney University, 14 tries, (12 starts)
Sireli TAGICAKIBAU, Warringah, 12 tries, (18 starts)
Jarome MACKENZIE, Penrith, 12 tries, (13 starts)
Alexander NORTHAM, Manly, 12 tries, (8 starts)
Marcus CARBONE, Southern Districts, 10 tries, (18 starts)
Jed HOLLOWAY, Southern Districts, 10 tries, (16 starts)
Tito MUA, West Harbour, 10 tries, (15 starts)
Larry HERMENS, Parramatta, 10 tries, (14 starts)
Dane CHISHOLM, Manly, 10 tries, (12 starts)


Not a bad effort by some when you take into account the starts.
 

Hugh Jarse

Rocky Elsom (76)
Staff member
The $64000 question isn't it.

All logic says that this will be the Marlins year, with a tight matchup in the GF against the Woodies.

These two have been a cut above the rest, although as the season unfolded they have both shown their vulnerabilities when they have turned in substandard performances. Ironically the Beasts only managed to win 5 games all year, once against MMM by a bees appendage, and an absolute thrashing of the Woodies being two of their victories. Go figure.

There will be at least one upset in the finals and I can see that Buildcorp is the most likely team to produce that upset but without their usual influx of professionals returning from SupeRugby duties, they may struggle to go all the way.

I reckon that, while entertaining to watch, Warringah were have done their dash, with all their petrol used up in the return Rat Park Derby against the old foe. With that result, I reckon that they will be happy with their seasons performance regardless of what happens in the Finals.

The Hobbits and Wicks will not go down without a fight, but probably will bow out of the finals series in the first week. The challenge for the MMM and Woodies is to maintain fitness this weekend and not suffer too many injuries, although both clubs have admirable depth to cover the loss of one or two.

If you have been following my chicken entrails readings disguised as weekly tips throughout the year, you would know that the above has about as much chance of happening as we have of winning back the Bledisloe Cup, so take it with a grain of salt.
 

The_Brown_Hornet

John Eales (66)
Nearly impossible to split Manly and Eastwood for mine and you know that Uni, with all their experience, will be a massive threat. I can't see anyone outside of those three mounting a serious challenge, though I've thoroughly enjoyed the way the Rats have played this season.
 

Intruder

Dave Cowper (27)
Was able to watch the replay of Warraingah vs Eastwood clash and was stunned when the Rats resorted to uncontested scrums with 20+ minutes to play. Clubs now have an extra reserve and should have no excuse for not having 2 props on the bench.
 

Eyes and Ears

Bob Davidson (42)
Was able to watch the replay of Warraingah vs Eastwood clash and was stunned when the Rats resorted to uncontested scrums with 20+ minutes to play. Clubs now have an extra reserve and should have no excuse for not having 2 props on the bench.

They may have had 2 props on the bench but the 2nd prop might have considered himself a specialist tight head and therefore not been prepared to play loose head.

I actually think Shute Shield teams can have a very legitimate excuse for not having 2 props and that is that 1 of the props may have been injured in 2nd grade.
 

Rob

Sydney Middleton (9)
It was shameful that the rats went uncontested - none of their second grade props got injured in the previous game and the big fella they brought on at LHP and then got injured looked like voluntary substitution - the starting LHP looked pissed off that he was being subbed in the first half of the game.

I suggest it was just cynical play to get a better platform at scrum time.

Southern Districts second grade did it the week before against Eastwood second grade. They subbed their whole front row off at half time (and they all stood by as reserves for 1s) and then immediately one of the replacement props went down injured - so uncontested scrums for most of the second half.

There is a bit of wiggle room in the operational guideline as it states that

21.1 All teams must have sufficient front
row players to play at hooker, tight-head
prop and loose-head prop who are suitably
trained and experienced to ensure that on
the first occasion that a replacement in
each front row position is required, the
team can continue to play safely with
contested scrums.


So while they must have three suitable qualified front rowers one could argue that LHPs and THPs are not interchangeable. I hope we don't see uncontested scrums in the finals series.
 

the coach

Bob Davidson (42)
So how come Cameron Treloar qualifies to play for Warringah this weekend after only 1 game in the SS this year and not involved in the S15? Where did he get his parachute from?
 

lily

Vay Wilson (31)
Why on earth are Manly 2nds playing on Sunday at Eastwood? I don't understand when you haveEastwood Two's playing at Manly.
 

DTS

Stan Wickham (3)
Why on earth are Manly 2nds playing on Sunday at Eastwood? I don't understand when you haveEastwood Two's playing at Manly.

lily i believe its due to Warringah 2s needing to be at some spot that their first grade are. According to the strict rule of the draw manly would also be playing at manly oval if it werent for this complication.
 

Rob

Sydney Middleton (9)
Lily

It was explained to me but didn't really understand it. It has something to do with second and third grade teams (I think Warringah) in the two sets of Saturday finals being at different locations and so can't reserve). They therefore had to be shifted to one location.
 

MACCA

Ron Walden (29)
So how come Cameron Treloar qualifies to play for Warringah this weekend after only 1 game in the SS this year and not involved in the S15? Where did he get his parachute from?

Tis all so shameful that this "up & coming" 34 year old has a place in the NRC. Nothing personal against the man - just a poor piece of rugby admin methinks
 
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