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2016 Under-20 Rugby World Championships - Manchester UK

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Seymour Butz

Larry Dwyer (12)
^^^^^^
No - and Rapp told me yesterday that there were still about 40 left and that looked about the number that was there training. I thought he said earlier that a lower number would greet the new year, but never mind.

Last year the number was 36 at about Feb 1st but that had one or two add-ons, I think.

He said it would be trimmed after the first trial on 6th Feb though I expect a few withdrawals before then
[snip]
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Any updates on inclusions for exclusions since the weekend?
 

Lee Grant

John Eales (66)
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NSW U20s - this is an old reference.

SATURDAY, 13TH. FEBRUARYBus loop, Moore Park1.00pm (TBC)
Waratahs U20 v. Randwick

It was TBC - can anybody confirm the time and if it's at one of the grounds at Moore Park??
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Monty Python

Ted Fahey (11)
NSW U20s - this is an old reference.

SATURDAY, 13TH. FEBRUARYBus loop, Moore Park1.00pm (TBC)
Waratahs U20 v. Randwick

It was TBC - can anybody confirm the time and if it's at one of the grounds at Moore Park??
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I believe this is correct. A 1 PM kick-off.
I understand there might be some experimental combinations happening tomorrow.
 

redblack

Larry Dwyer (12)
I believe this is correct. A 1 PM kick-off.
I understand there might be some experimental combinations happening tomorrow.
Any other snouts at the game today. I noticed a lot of the boys remaining are last years schoolboys..It will be interesting to see how they develop. ..
 

Hugh Jarse

Rocky Elsom (76)
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2016 Six Nations Under 20 Tournament Results and Schedule
http://www.rbs6nations.com/en/u20/under_20_6_nations_match_centre.php#qflOSUBGzl3gzrxI.97

Round 1 (5 Feb)
Ireland 24 def by Wales 35 (Match report)
Scotland 24 def England 6 (Match report)
France 40 def Italy 3 (Match report)

Round 2 (12 Feb)
Wales 18 def Scotland 15 (Match Report)
Italy 7 def by England 42 (Match Report)
France 34 def Ireland 13 (Match Report)


Games to come
Round 3 (26,27 Feb)
England v Ireland
Italy v Scotland
Wales v France

Round 4 (11 Mar)
Ireland v Italy
England v Wales
Scotland v France

Round 5 (18 Mar)
France v England
Wales v Italy
Ireland v Scotland

Table (to date)
1. France P 2, W 2, D 0, L 0, PF 74, PA 16, PD 58, Pts 4
2. Wales P 2, W 2, D 0, L 0, PF 53, PA 39, PD 14, Pts 4
3. England P 2, W 1, D 0, L 1, PF 48, PA 31, PD 17 Pts 2
4. Scotland P 2, W 1, D 0, L 1, PF 39, PA 24, PD 15, Pts 2
5. Ireland P 2, W 0, D 0, L 2, PF 37, PA 69, PD -32, Pts 0
6. Italy P 2, W 0, D 0, L 2, PF 10, PA 82, PD -72, Pts 0

http://www.rbs6nations.com/en/u20/under_20_6_nations_table.php#v9GbVoLtPYz6T6P6.97

Round 2 6N U20 Squads

France U20 (34)
15. Romain Buros
14. Gabriel Ngandebe, 1T
13. Damian Penaud
12. Alex Arrate
11. Elliot Roudil
10. Anthony Belleau, 4C, 2P
9. Christophe Kaiser
8. Anthony Jelonch
7. Judicael Cancoriet
6. Matthieu Voisin
5. Mathieu Tanguy
4. Florian Verhaegue, 2T
3. Michaël Simutoga
2. Beato Mauvaka
1. Clement Castets

16. Elias El Ansari
17. Pierre Bourgarit
18. Emerick Setiano
19. Theo Hannoyer
20. Jean-Baptiste Grenod
21. Baptiste Couilloud
22. Atila Septar
23. Alexandre Pilati
+ Penalty Try

Ireland U20 (13)
15. Hugo Keenan
14. Matthew Byrne
13. Shane Daly
12. Jimmy O'Brien
11. Conor O'Brien
10. Johnny McPhillips, 1P
9. John Poland
8. Max Deegan
7. Daniel Walsh
6. Cillian Gallagher
5. A. N. Other
4. Peter Claffey, 1T
3. Conor Kenny
2. Adam McBurney
1. Andrew Porter

16. Shane Fenton
17. James Bollard
18. Conan O'Donnell
19. Sean O'Connor
20. Kelvin Brown
21. Stephen Kerins
22. Brett Connon
23. Terry Kennedy



Italy U20 (7)
15. Erik Dho
14. Pierre Bruno
13. Roberto Dal Zilio
12. Dario Schiabel
11. Luca Sperandio
10. Antonio Rizzi, 1C
9. Charly Trussardi
8. Gabriele Venditti, 1T
7. Davide Ciotoli
6. Davide Fragnito
5. Samuele Ortis
4. Vittorio Alberto Mantegazza
3. Marco Riccioni
2. Marco Manfredi
1. Daniele Rimpelli

16. Enjel Makelara
17. Damiano Borean
18. Giosue Zilocchi
19. Leonard Krumov
20. Michael De Marco
21. Matteo Panunzi
22. Peter Boris Mokom
23. Leonardo Mantelli

England U20 (42)
15. Max Malins, 1T
14. George Perkins, 1T
13. Joe Marchant, 2C, 1P
12. Charlie Thacker
11. Ollie Thorley
10. Mathew Protheroe
9. Max Green
8. Callum Chick
7. Samuel Smith
6. Zach Mercer
5. George Nott
4. Huw Taylor
3. Will Stuart
2. Jack Singleton, 4T
1. Tom West

16. Curtis Langdon, 1T
17. Ralph Adams-Hale
18. Billy Keast
19. Stanley South
20. Jack Willis
21. Jamie Shillcock
22. Joe Simmonds
23. Paolo Odogwu




Wales U20 (18)
15. Rhun Williams
14. Elis-Wyn Benham
13. Joe Thomas
12. Harri Millard
11. Keelan Giles, 1T
10. Daniel Jones
9. Reuben Morgan-Williams
8. Harri Keddie
7. Shaun Evans, 1T
6. Tom Phillips, 1T
5. Bryce Morgan
4. Shane Lewis-Hughes
3. Dillon Lewis
2. Dafydd Hughes
1. Corey Domachowski

16. Ifan Phillips
17. Robert Lewis
18. Leon Brown
19. James Ratti
20. Morgan Sieniawski
21. Declan Smith
22. Billy McBryde, 1P
23. Joe Gage

Scotland U20 (15)
15. Ruari Howarth
14. Robbie Nairn
13. George Taylor
12. Tom Galbraith
11. Darcy Graham
10. Rory Hutchinson, 1C, 1P
9. Hugh Fraser
8. Ally Miller
7. Matt Smith, 1T
6. Andrew Davidson
5. Scott Cummings
4. Callum Hunter-Hill
3. Callum Sheldon
2. Jake Kerr
1. Murray McCallum, 1T

16. Lewis Anderson
17. George Thornton
18. Adam Nicol
19. Stephen Ainslie
20. Scott Burnside
21. Charlie Shiel
22. Chris Lines
23. Ben Robbins
 

Highlander35

Andrew Slack (58)
We lost that match, the Welsh didn't win it. Complete mess around in the backline, with Adam Hastings starting for bath, Blair Kinghorn playing for Edinburgh and Hutchison having to switch to 10, but still played well enough.

I'll be hoping that they get the 2 of them and Ritchie back for Italy and really take them to pieces.
 

Highlander35

Andrew Slack (58)
Relevant Game was on S4C, the Welsh language channel (welsh being Welsh can't simply say something like BBC Alba, they have to have their own name), so I turned on the VPN and watched on BBC iPlayer.

EDIT: Been unfair to the Welshys there. BBC Cymrru exists. It's only an iPlayer arrangement.

EDIT 2: France v Ireland was covered by RTE, the Irish Broadcaster. As was Wales v Ireland

RFU streamed Italy v England

might need a VPN for that too. If you look at some of my posts, there's the SRU stream of the Sco, v england from Round 1. I'm also yet to find a broadcast for Italy v France.
 

Lee Grant

John Eales (66)
Staff member
From RBS 6 Nations

France produced a strong second-half performance to deny Ireland and maintain their place at the top of the Under 20 Six Nations table.

Les Bleuets lead Wales on points difference after Jason Strange’s side also made it two wins from two thanks to Billy McBryde’s last-gasp penalty.

Meanwhile, England bounced back from their opening defeat by Scotland to move up to third place with hooker Jack Singleton scoring four tries in a 42-7 victory over Italy.

Ireland looked on course to end a four-game losing run in the U20 Six Nations and record a rare win on French soil when they led France 13-10 with half-time approaching after Peter Claffey and James Ryan had scored from catch-and-drive lineout moves.

But Gabriel Ngandebe’s try and Anthony Belleau’s conversion, his second of the night following an earlier penalty try, put France 17-13 in front at the break.

Having seized the initiative, France came out firing after the break with 17 unanswered points just reward for their dominance.

Belleau kicked his second penalty after 42 minutes to edge France further in front before two tries from Florian Verhaegue, which Belleau converted, put the result beyond any doubt.

Late drama
At Parc Eirias in Colwyn Bay, Wales came back from 15-5 down at half-time to win 18-15 in the most dramatic of circumstances.

Scotland were good value for their 10-point lead in the first half, flanker Matt Smith and prop Murray McCallum scoring for the second game running either side of a try for the home side’s Shaun Evans. Rory Hutchinson weighed in with a penalty and a conversion.

Within three minutes of the restart Wales got back into the game. A move from right to left was finished off by captain Tom Phillips, but again fly-half Daniel Jones failed to notch the extras.

And the scores were level after 62 minutes when winger Keelan Giles gathered the ball following a sweeping move, flew down the left wing and went over in the corner.

For the third time on the night Jones' kick was off target but, thankfully for Wales, replacement back McBryde had no such problems on assuming the kicking duties.

McBryde, the son of the senior team’s forwards coach Robin, entered the fray on 79 minutes and his first action was a successful penalty that sparked big celebrations at Parc Eirias.

Four-midable!
England hooker Singleton marked his first U20 start in the No.2 jersey, in place of injured captain Jack Walker, with two tries in each half against Italy.

Singleton's four tries capped off a wonderful display by the Worcester Warriors player against a side that England will face again in the World Rugby U20 Championship in Manchester in June.

"I'm chuffed but it was more important to get the win," said Singleton. "I didn't have to do too much for most of my tries, the forwards did all the work and the backs were bossing us around so it was pretty easy in the end. They did all the hard graft and I got to go over in the corner.

"It was a great feeling at the end. We had a pretty tough week after that Scotland game and wanted to put a lot of stuff right and I think we went out there and did that."

Max Malins, George Perkins and replacement Curtis Langdon also crossed the whitewash on a night when England’s pack were well on top. Gabriele Venditti pulled a try back for Italy late on.

When the Six Nations action resumes on 26 February, England will take on Ireland in Newcastle and Italy face another of their World Rugby U20 Championship opponents Scotland in Padova. A day later, the top two in the standings will meet when Wales host France at Parc Eirias.
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Lee Grant

John Eales (66)
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Somebody at the ground on Saturday kept asking me who that NSW U20s player was and who that one. He was jotting down a few numbers.

There was no programme and I had to concentrate on the game so I told him that I would put the player numbers I knew in the forum for him if he cared to visit us. He said OK; but he may have been a forum member anyway; he didn't say.

But I forgot to do it.

Here is my list in case he checks in and it may be of interest to others also. I don't think it will be too far off the mark.

Sometimes there were jerseys with the same number.

I think that the starting players were:

1. V. Fifita
2. D. Moore
3. H. Johnson-Holmes
4. R. McCauley
5. T. Piroddi
6. M. Girdler
7. J. Hayson
22. A. Vatuvei

9. T. Strang
10. C. O'Shea
11. S. Tabuatamata
12. N. Yeomans
13. S. Afu
14. W. Latu
15. T. Clements

8. S. Halaifonua
12. D. England
17. H. Chapman
18. S. Dillon
18. S. Malolo
19. E. Craig
19. L. Swinton
20. N. de Crespeny
20. W. McDonnell
21. C. Smith
21. J. Pelowski ??
22. S. Loga-Tarogi
23. T. Pye
23 + ???

Players in civvies I noticed watching - likely there were others
T. Horton (2-week concussion rest)
S. Kennewell
T. Molloy (probably still injured)

Fellows doing rehab work
J . Lotoaniu
H. Goddard

ACL/MCL rupture
J. McGregor
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Tahspark

Ted Thorn (20)
^^^^

Wretched misfortune for J. McGregor sustaining a season ending ACL/MCL rupture. Wishing him all the best for a full recovery and that he returns strongly.
 

Lee Grant

John Eales (66)
Staff member
Yeah it's a great pity for Jack Mac and for the Tahs U20s I reckon.

Their no. 1 flyhalf, Jack Clancy, was already sidelined by a similar injury; so NSW had only Connor O'Shea as a specialist playing there on Saturday - with schoolie Dan England, who played the position a bit for Scots early in the 2015 season, getting time in the second half.

I'm not sure what happened to Jack Maddocks who was at training last I was there.

We have to "watch this space".

PS - somebody advised after the last blog I did that Sydney Uni are trialling in Wagga on Saturday yet Uni is supposed to be playing the NSW U20s in a trial on Friday afternoon.

Does anybody have any information on this - or is it as simple as Grade going to Wagga and Colts playing the U20s??
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Hugh Jarse

Rocky Elsom (76)
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Yeah it's a great pity for Jack Mac and for the Tahs U20s I reckon.

Their no. 1 flyhalf, Jack Clancy, was already sidelined by a similar injury; so NSW had only Connor O'Shea as a specialist playing there on Saturday - with schoolie Dan England, who played the position a bit for Scots early in the 2015 season, getting time in the second half.

I'm not sure what happened to Jack Maddocks who was at training last I was there.
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It seems 2016 NSW U20 Flyhalfs called Jack may be cursed. Has Jack Maddocks similarly succumbed to that curse, or he is doing his best not to tempt fate with the Jinx Fairies by staying well clear of that position.

Edit:
Re Syd Uni in Wagga:
Nothing on their web site but this has been posted on the Southern Inland Thread. Possibly 1.5 - 2 Uni Teams going to Wagga to play 6 x 20 minute quarters (with lots of substitutions most likely). Probs a mix of 2015 Colts and 2016 Grade players.
any kick off times available for Trials at Conolly this Saturday - wouldn't mind watching Sydney Uni play against Melbourne U/20s and the Southern Inland Team
2pm kick off mate. Format will be 4 x 20mins Rebels v Uni then 2 x 20mins Uni v SIRU
 
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