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Jim Clark (26)
just want to point out my gripe with this new super rugby, its 715, here in adelaide half a box of beer down just watched the crusaders win and no more gams till almost midnight, i want to watch the force lose to the blues! but seriously this comp cant compete with a logical and well timed comp. that is the afl and nrl, games on when fans are awake and wanting to watch sport! its not rocket science, even as a non aussie i miss the perth games they were great for an exile in South aussie.
 

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Greg Davis (50)
just want to point out my gripe with this new super rugby, its 715, here in adelaide half a box of beer down just watched the crusaders win and no more gams till almost midnight, i want to watch the force lose to the blues! but seriously this comp cant compete with a logical and well timed comp. that is the afl and nrl, games on when fans are awake and wanting to watch sport! its not rocket science, even as a non aussie i miss the perth games they were great for an exile in South aussie.

This is my biggest issue with the ARU/RA administration and Foxtel...it actually is my biggest issue.

From week one of super rugby until the end of the local season I should be able to watch a prime time rugby game every Friday and especially every Saturday of the season.

This is how you form a habit, my wife should known that every Saturday night is a rugby night and that this is what will happen.

I dont care if it is a Super Rugby game, a Test match or a 7's competition, rugby should be on the TV.

It only happens a few times, why not have some type of game with left over NRC players, QLD v NSW club competition game, QLD v NSW GPS competition, Western Force v anyone or a Womens Test match?

I am desperate, find thirty people at the mardis gras and put boots on them, we need rugby
 

wamberal

Phil Kearns (64)
There is always a game to either watch live, or otherwise, you can record an earlier game and watch that in your "prime time".


With four (or even five) Australian franchises there just cannot possibly be a game every Friday and Saturday night in prime time.


The host broadcasters have a deal for Super rugby. Why would they pay for "leftovers"?
 

Parse

Bill Watson (15)
As to having a game in prime time.... Why are the Sunwolves games at around 1pm (Japanese local time)? Those matches could easily be moved to a time slot that would suit Aus/NZ better. Or can the Japanese only watch rugby in the middle of the day.
 

zer0

Jim Lenehan (48)
As to having a game in prime time.. Why are the Sunwolves games at around 1pm (Japanese local time)? Those matches could easily be moved to a time slot that would suit Aus/NZ better. Or can the Japanese only watch rugby in the middle of the day.


Can Australians only watch rugby in the evening?
 

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Bill Watson (15)
That's an odd remark. I have seen lots of afternoon and evening/night games for Super Rugby in Australia, yet there seems to have only ever been early afternoon games in Japan.

Still doesn't address the lack of prime time games for Super Rugby.
 

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Jim Lenehan (48)
If they want to play their matches at 1pm local time then that's their choice. They shouldn't have to pander to Australian or NZ viewers. I sure as hell wish most NZ games weren't played at 7:30pm.
 

Dan54

Tim Horan (67)
Yep and don't forget Aus games are not on in NZ at a very good time, not a lot of people want to stay up until 10pm to watch games start, you can't suit everyone!
 

Tangawizi

Peter Fenwicke (45)
As to having a game in prime time.. Why are the Sunwolves games at around 1pm (Japanese local time)? Those matches could easily be moved to a time slot that would suit Aus/NZ better. Or can the Japanese only watch rugby in the middle of the day.
It's still pretty cold up there at this time of year. Max was 13 yesterday so trying to play in the "heat" of the day isn't that surprising.

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Alan Cameron (40)
Delusional is a word that springs to mind. An article in the Herald Sun is hhhhmmmm maybe something only available in Victoria. Having said that the AFL will be using all their connections to get hold of rectangle fields in NSW & OLD.

Someone at RA needs to understand that four national teams will struggle against this.

The attack is aimed at soccer, but equally us. I can't see this happening but I can see a lot of damage done.

Future of footy: Soccer poses AFL’s biggest threat

Eliza Sewell and Jon Ralph, Herald SunMarch 3, 2018 4:56pm
AFLX and the game Australia has known for 150 years could merge to produce a form of football the world will be ready to embrace in 2050. It’s the threat of a global monster — soccer — that could drive dramatic game changes. Victoria University professor of international sport business Hans Westerbeek says 11-a-side — middle ground between AFLX’s seven players and 18 in the AFL — on smaller, rectangular fields makes sense.“There’s only one major competitor that will be able to kill off AFL, and that’s soccer,” Westerbeek said.AUSSIE RULES HEADED FOR PACIFIC REVOLUTION
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North Melbourne’s Shaun Atley, AFL chief executive Gillon McLachlan and St Kilda’s Jack Billings at the launch of the first AFLX season at Etihad Stadium. Picture: AAP Image/Joe Castro
“The question is how is AFL in 2050 going to combat the popularity and global appeal of soccer when you look at the changing demography of Australia.“In 2050 we’ll have another 10-12 million people living here, most who come from cultural backgrounds that follow soccer.“The difficulty of AFL to remain the dominant game is its first big challenge. You have three decades to turn 18 a side on a cricket pitch to 11 a side on a soccer pitch. That’s genuine visionary strategic planning.”Keith Thomas, chief executive of China pioneer Port Adelaide, sees AFLX as having a large international footprint by 2050.“Newly retired AFL stars, who have enjoyed the opportunity to extend their careers through the short-form game, are being joined by AFLX specialists in their own right, most of whom are Chinese nationals who have grown up playing AFLX,” Thomas said.“The annual AFLX international carnival in Beijing is being streamed live throughout Asia and other parts of the world, having been accepted as a male and female Olympic demonstration sport for the past two Games.”
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The Tigers run onto the field during the AFLX match between the GWS Giants and the Richmond Tigers at Allianz Stadium on February 17, 2018 in Sydney, Australia. (Photo by Michael Willson/AFL Media/Getty Images)
Westerbeek proposes radical rule changes that will assault the sensibilities of purists but which the academic says make perfect sense from a global perspective.“There’s probably five or six different rules that are totally understood by the ‘in crowd’, but how are you going to explain that to people in the slums of Rio?” he said.Getting rid of the 15m disposal rule — and hence, bouncing the ball — would make the game “more free flowing and easier to watch”.Removing behinds could be an option, especially given the 11-a-side, rectangular pitch vision. “If I was on the AFL rules committee even now, I would strongly advocate for taking the bounce out now,” Westerbeek said.“I can hear all the arguments coming out, why aficionados and diehards will say, ‘You can’t take the bounce out’, but actually, it’s very simple. You can.“I would argue, design it so it appeals to the biggest audience you can possibly reach. It will be radical for a lot of people now, but in 32 years those people will have passed, moved on or accommodated to the new form of the game.”
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Patrick Ambrose of the Bombers and David Mirra of the Hawks in action during the AFLX match between the Essendon Bombers and the Hawthorn Hawks. Picture: Michael Willson/AFL Media/Getty Images
Peter Jess, pioneering player agent and concussion campaigner, argues another soccer innovation could be required — an off-side rule to enhance player safety.“The shoulder charge will be eliminated altogether,” he said“We will adopt a new tackling regime. There may well be the introduction of an off-side rule which gives players the opportunity to have far more peripheral vision.”Concussion awareness has advanced at pace in recent years and Jess envisions massive advances in the science of head knocks in 32 years.“Players will be able to have a saliva test after every training session and every game and within 20 minutes they will know if their baselines show they have any neurological symptoms relating to concussion,” Jess said.“We are not far off having sensors being attached to the body that will tell you if you have a collision, the severity of the collision and the transfer of energy.” eliza.sewell@news.com.au
 
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Alan Cameron (40)
What the actual fuck has that got to do with anything? Is there even a semblance of rugby in any of your posts? Are you lost and looking for the FFA/AFL forums?

I have more questions, but I’ll start with these.

Given you ask, and I assume want an answer, rugby has rectangle fields in NSW & OLD at local district, grassroots level.

AFL is chasing rectangle fields in NSW & QLD.

The article from a rugby point of view has nothing to do with soccer, the AFL have identified in a number of forums they want rectangle fields in NSW & OLD.

The article IMO SCREAMS a warning to rugby about protecting local ovals from the AFL.

Super Rugby has four teams, with falling revenues.

I have long held the need for a national domestic competition, and IMO and lets debate this can a competition with four teams, hold its fields if we can a full frontal attack from the AFL.

You may not see an issue and think what other codes do is not important. Personally I think that type of its not our concern or what has this got to so with Super Rugby totally ignores what has happen to us over many recent years.

However if the forum says don't talk about an attack from another code then so be it.
 
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Alan Cameron (40)
I’ll just add that AFLX has not been a success so far.....

Agree, but its aim is to get players and fields in NSW & OLD. I have a mate who's daughter is switching from rugby to AFL i.e. I guess because of the coverage of the women's game.
 
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Tim Horan (67)
They are also reputed to be taking AFL to schools, with a support pack of admin and coaches. Pull down the rugby posts and make the school ground rectangle AFL.

With rugby dwindling top down, further attacks at the grass roots spell serious concerns for our sport.
 
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Given you ask, and I assume want an answer, rugby has rectangle fields in NSW & OLD at local district, grassroots level.

AFL is chasing rectangle fields in NSW & QLD.

And if you had just said that, then some debate could be had. But you posted a full article, with big glossy AFL pics, that was 85% irrelevant to your point. AFLX footprint in Asia? Saliva testing?

It's fine to do some cross-code comparison occasionally, but you seem to take every little rugby detail and find a way to bring out an FFA/AFL story to "highlight" your point. Trouble is, it's quite often not clear what that point is.
 

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Greg Davis (50)
Given you ask, and I assume want an answer, rugby has rectangle fields in NSW & OLD at local district, grassroots level.

AFL is chasing rectangle fields in NSW & QLD.

The article from a rugby point of view has nothing to do with soccer, the AFL have identified in a number of forums they want rectangle fields in NSW & OLD.

The article IMO SCREAMS a warning to rugby about protecting local ovals from the AFL.

Super Rugby has four teams, with falling revenues.

I have long held the need for a national domestic competition, and IMO and lets debate this can a competition with four teams, hold its fields if we can a full frontal attack from the AFL.

You may not see an issue and think what other codes do is not important. Personally I think that type of its not our concern or what has this got to so with Super Rugby totally ignores what has happen to us over many recent years.

However if the forum says don't talk about an attack from another code then so be it.

So we should try to share Ballymore with the AFL and let them fund the redevelopment?

At least they could afford it
 

Boof1050

Bill Watson (15)
What the actual fuck has that got to do with anything? Is there even a semblance of rugby in any of your posts? Are you lost and looking for the FFA/AFL forums?

I have more questions, but I’ll start with these.
Gee whiz Daz someone really shat in your cornflakes yesterday! Or was it a big hangover? I absolutely get where half is coming from. I’ve already seen it start happening here in WA at our local rugby park. What started out 5 months ago as 3 guys training for a local aflx comp that must be running somewhere is now up to 10 blokes. Whether or not those guys were rugby people in the first place I’m not sure but it’s not a cool thing having to share a field with anyone else especially another code. It’s sort of like oztag anyone can play it.
 

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Will Genia (78)
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Gee whiz Daz someone really shat in your cornflakes yesterday! Or was it a big hangover? I absolutely get where half is coming from. I’ve already seen it start happening here in WA at our local rugby park. What started out 5 months ago as 3 guys training for a local aflx comp that must be running somewhere is now up to 10 blokes. Whether or not those guys were rugby people in the first place I’m not sure but it’s not a cool thing having to share a field with anyone else especially another code. It’s sort of like oztag anyone can play it.


It's the 100s of similar posts over the last couple of years that are only about A League etc. and nothing to do with rugby, not this one post.
 
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