Discussion in 'Rugby Discussion' started by PaarlBok, Apr 17, 2012.
Fixtures , times, venues finalised
Bring on the Poms.
Croft, Wood and Lawes out. Those are huge losses.
Danny Care will be good for at least 20 minutes of playing against 14 Poms.
Meanwhile we have a crisis at 3 and I hope CJ Stander has a huge couple of weeks.
You guys should smash the Poms, you're the one team they struggle against (apart from the ABs).
Dunno about Stander but the Stormers Kolisi and Carr looks pretty good, can even move Etsebet in. All depend on the Brutes Stormers trial match at Loftus a week before the first test. I am not worried about scrumming, we are in good hands with Pietie de Villiers.
Jannie du Plessis looks spent and we have nothing else at 3. Great coach or no coach.
Those two players are not yet physical enough. Stander is a lot more physical in a typical blindside sense. I love what I see in carr but he looks too small at this stage.
If Stander has a big tour he could be the answer.
10 is the interesting spot for mine. Morne will start but their are some really good young up and commers over there to stake a claim for the backup spot.
Lawes is fast turning into a what could have been player. He spends more time injured than playing these days and that can't be good for his development.
Since Smith turned England down Mike Catt will has accepted the role of England backs coach for the short term. It's looking more and more like an uphill struggle for England on this tour.
I just hope England dont with draw their top players due to conditioning excuse. The tours have dirt tracker games to develope young players. We were waiting for years for the old time tours, we dont want to see them get degraded and want to see the top stars playing in the test.
Looks like Jean de Villers has the inside track to Captain against the Poms. Happy enough with that.
Oh Sorry Boet. I watch SABC sport news last night and they interviewed heyneke.
1. He wont use overseas players in the first test. According to him he is only able to practise them from the monday before a test..
2. He mentioned Jean captaincy but he also like Meisiekind current form and look like Meisiekind/JdJ will slot in 13 with Jean in 12.
My geus the Bokline vs the Poms will look like:
Lambie, JPP, Meisiekind, JdV, Habana, M Steyn, Hougaard.
Don't use overseas players at all. You have enough quallity talent within SA.
Frans Steyn will surely play 12?
The Beast looked good in his return for the Sharks and showed that he is a much better option than any of the LH props we have been discussing.
Oh the irony...
Englands touring squad
Anthony Allen (Leicester), Chris Ashton (Northampton), Brad Barritt (Saracens), Mike Brown (Harlequins), Danny Care (Harlequins), Lee Dickson (Northampton), Owen Farrell (Saracens), Toby Flood (Leicester), Ben Foden (Northampton), Alex Goode (Saracens), Charlie Hodgson (Saracens), Jonathan Joseph (London Irish), George Lowe (Harlequins), Ugo Monye (Harlequins), David Strettle (Saracens), Manu Tuilagi (Leicester), Jordan Turner-Hall (Harlequins), Christian Wade (Wasps), Ben Youngs (Leicester)
Mouritz Botha (Saracens), Dan Cole (Leicester), Alex Corbisiero (London Irish), Paul Doran-Jones (Northampton), Phil Dowson (Northampton), Carl Fearns (Bath), Joe Gray (Harlequins), Dylan Hartley (Northampton), James Haskell (Highlanders/NZL), Tom Johnson (Exeter), Graham Kitchener (Leicester) Joe Launchbury (Wasps), Joe Marler (Harlequins), Lee Mears (Bath), Ben Morgan (Scarlets/WAL), Matt Mullan (Worcester), Tom Palmer (Stade Francais/FRA), Geoff Parling (Leicester), Chris Robshaw (Harlequins, capt), George Robson (Harlequins), Matt Stevens (Saracens), Thomas Waldrom (Leicester), Tom Youngs (Leicester)
Pretty much a full strength squad when you take injuries into account.
Why did they announce now and not after the Aviva Premiership final? I would've thought that would make more sense..
It's hard to know who missed out without a forensic examination though I know a few folks like Lawes, Croft and Wood are crocked. It's good that they are playing a couple of non-tests so they can have a dirt tracker side and some of the young blokes can get a run or maybe two.
dobduff (what's happened to dobbie?) will be happy that his mate ''JJ' Joseph is in the team. He's an attacking player as is zippy-dee-do-dah winger Christian Wade, the little winger who seemed to be scoring tries all the time in the IRB U/20 tournament last year.
I hope that Cipriani didn't rush back to England to be chosen as he didn't do enough in Super Rugby. Talking of which: Haskell was maybe fortunate that Hardy was injured playing for the Highlanders otherwise he would have been on the bench most of the season and the Poms wouldn't have been able to have a look at how he is travelling.
I see that Ben Youngs' brother Tom is in the team which is a bit surprising as he is only 3rd string hooker at Leicester IIRR. Talking of Ben: his rival Danny Care has been given another chance. He should do well as long as they keep him away from cars and the booze.
I think the Poms missed a trick in not picking specialist 7. Steffon Armitage. I know that he is a bowling ball of a player but he would have brought something different to the squad and their platoon of notter backrowers. He is bloody strong over the the ball on the floor and has been hard to stop playing for Toulon, as his recent try against Toulouse will attest.
As Bardon mentioned on the Not Set Pieces thread: Joe Marler a 21 y,o, LHP from Quins has been picked. I don't think that the RSA is ready for him. If you want to have a look at some of the hairdos he has had, have a look here:
But who missed out who is fit? Easter . who else?
I don't think Armitage would be released by Toulon
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