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2012 S15 All things Referee thread

Discussion in 'Rugby Discussion' started by PaarlBok, Feb 8, 2012.

  1. PaarlBok Michael Lynagh (62)

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    The quality of refs coming from Aus and NZ is a real worry for me as a Bok supporter. There are a huge gap between them and SA and something Sanzar have to sort out ASAP.
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  2. PaarlBok Michael Lynagh (62)

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  3. PaarlBok Michael Lynagh (62)

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    http://www.sareferees.co.za/news/ref_news/2858084.htm
  4. suckerforred Bob Davidson (42)

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    If Bryce makes a 13 -9 split this week we will know he is playing a game that is not rugby.
  5. Garry Owen Chris McKivat (8)

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    My 2 cents.

    Forthe benefit of the players safety, the law should be (more) clearly defined, and (more) consistantly refereed. Referee'ing interpretation is muddiying the waters, and sending confusion to the spectators. Paddy, put down your Chardonnay and do your job.

    Whether the tackle is considered dangerous or not, should not be judged on the condition of the tackled player after the incident. If the player has the skill/experience/fortune to brace himself from injury does not change the intent of the tackler. If we do go down that path, we may see more of the soccer antics of the melodrama hapening out after the tackle, being necessary to milk the card or not.

    Define a law, as clearly as possible in this situation, make the players, coaches, and spectators well aware of it, and coach our ref's on consitently inplementing it.
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  6. Sandpit Fan Phil Hardcastle (33)

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    Even the kiwi commentators are blowing up at Bryce in the Clan/Canes game :)
  7. yourmatesam Vay Wilson (31)

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    At least he only put in half a game tonight!!
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  8. teach Alfred Walker (16)

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    I do hope it is not a career ending injury..
  9. Baldric Charlie Fox (21)

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    I hope it is nothing trivial.
  10. Dan54 Nicholas Shehadie (39)

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    It would be hard for any other commentators to blow up, there were only kiwi commentators doing game!!
  11. Dan54 Nicholas Shehadie (39)

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    lol you saffas still upset at losing to Wallabies in WC??
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  12. rugbyisfun Jimmy Flynn (14)

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    Anyone hear the Tahs v Force ref tonight ?? " that's your ball blue, that's your ball white" constantly, all game. I hope this isn't a new communication game management technique being pushed because it is shit house
  13. Bruwheresmycar Nicholas Shehadie (39)

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    I didn't notice it (wasn't paying that much attention), but yes that would be unnecessary communication.
  14. rugbyisfun Jimmy Flynn (14)

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    It started to sound like "you're my boy blue" from the movie Old School after a while
  15. Hawko Ken Catchpole (46)

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    I suspect that teach likes to go fishing..
    It would be very good for the game if Bryce Lawrence didn't ref again and I'm not a Saffa.
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  16. Hawko Ken Catchpole (46)

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    After my rant last week it appears that referees are now clamping down on lifting to the horizontal. I don't for one moment think my post was the cause of that, just that the referees minders obviously thought it needed cracking down on after Bryce's no-show last week. Generally it is being penalised when its lifting to the 90 without cards, which I think is appropriate. If its lifting and spearing then it needs to be red carded and yellow and white if the referee is not sure.
  17. teach Alfred Walker (16)

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    I love fishing, but in this case I wasn't fishing in the sense that I was looking to start a fight.

    If Bryce Lawrence had a career ending injury last night I doubt very much that history will look back and mourn the loss of one of the all time great referees.

    Look how the game picked up after he left.
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  18. qwerty51 Simon Poidevin (60)

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    Let's talk AAC's no try.

    Was it obstruction? Horne made contact with a defender no doubt about it. But let's look at how the defender made contact, he was drawn to tackle Horne, he took the wrong man and made the wrong defensive decision. I believe it wasn't obstruction because Horne didn't simple take a defender out, the defender chose to make contact, slight difference if Horne ran into him.

    Thoughts?
  19. Bruwheresmycar Nicholas Shehadie (39)

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    If refereeing standards are currently as bad as people claim, then every time we lose a top ref we should be mourning.

    So here we have B.Lawrence, who is capable of reffing test rugby and has many years left in him, and people are hoping his career ends tomorrow? Is there a better ref from NZRU who is going to take his place? Even if there is that isn't an argument to hope he retires, it's an argument against the selection system, which most people don't have any clue about.

    Regardless of your opinion of him, he is clearly in the top 1% of rugby union referees in the world (all test refs are). Anyone with that sort of experience is a big loss to the game. Not to mention his knowledge of the laws is probably second to none.

    Bryce Lawrence is kind of like the Matt Dunning in that sense I suppose. A lot of people think he's useless, but there is always a place for him in rugby. Depending on the stocks available he could be playing super rugby, club rugby or sometimes test rugby. People who never wanted him to play at any level ever again were just appealing to their emotions.
  20. Forcefield Alex Ross (28)

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    I think that is a pretty tenuous call. I think regardless of whether Horne was there, AAC would have been able to power through Sidey's tackle and across the line, but it was still obstruction. Horne ran into a player who could potentially have tackled the ball carrier. You can talk about making the wrong defensive decision but he wasn't given any choice. It wouldn't have been possible to not tackle Horne and tackle AAC instead. Unfortunate for the Tahs because they deserved to score there, but perhaps it was karma catching up for the Kingston try.

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