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AUS Tour to NZ 2016

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Brumby Runner

David Wilson (68)
Didn't see it either but the umpires do have the option to penalise bowlers under the ICC standard test regulations if they think negative legside bowling is going on


25.1 Law 25.1 - Judging a Wide - For bowlers whom umpires consider to be bowling down the leg side as a negative tactic, the strict limited over wide interpretation shall be applied.

OK, so if that's the condition applied to these test matches, there certainly should have been a number of wides called against Wagner. For a couple of periods he was bowling, at least 5 out of 6 deliveries were outside leg stump and he used up his quota of two short balls per batsmen as well. And that was with a 2/7 field split, with a shortish backward square leg (where incidentally both Burns and Smith were finally caught) and a deep, finer leg with the other five fielders all around forward square leg to mid wicket. Not intimidatory bowling, but extremely negative tactics.
 

The_Brown_Hornet

John Eales (66)
So we got rolled for 505, leading by 135. The Kiwi's are still in this, though only just if we're honest. They bowled a *lot* of short stuff and I think if we're smart we won't do the same. Nothing guys like BMac love more than playing square of the wicket shots. However, when Wagner comes to the crease a bit of chin music is certainly on the cards and fair enough too. We just can't lose sight of the real goal here: taking 10 wickets and not having to chase 250+ to win the game.
 

Highlander35

Andrew Slack (58)
Patto took an early one, has the pace up. Think the mid 140s and high 130s of him and Hazlewood might suit the pitch more than the low 130s of Bird and the Kiwis. If they get well into day 4, Lyon could be key in keeping the lead under 200.
 

Quick Hands

David Wilson (68)
What we've seen from NZ again in this series, is just what we saw in Australia and in England last year. When they are in the groove, they are as good as anyone, but they tend to have really, really bad sessions where they either lose a stack of quick wickets or go wicketless with the ball for long periods.
 

Strewthcobber

Mark Ella (57)
Umpires (correctly) intervened today to stop the Aussies throwing in on the bounce. It really is a batsman's game isn't it?
 

Lindommer

Steve Williams (59)
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Watched a few hours both days of the weekend on Foxsports. I must say it was a delight not to have to endure the childish, non-informative and puerile broadcast from Channel 9. Julian et al simply described the cricket, no pointless commercial distractions, no seguing to infantile social media competitions, no geeing up "Tubby/Slats/Heals" or whomever, no preening Pommy prick shoving the microphone where he shouldn't. Just the cricket.

Julian would have to be about the best senior broadcaster and host of a cricket show going around. The fact he's quite photogenic doesn't hinder him at all.
 

The_Brown_Hornet

John Eales (66)
Really want to see the boys go hard in that first hour tomorrow and see if we can't get this thing wrapped up. Williamson still being there is obviously an issue, but if we bowl like we did today (especially Patto, who is growing into a serious player) we can finish this off tomorrow.
 

Highlander35

Andrew Slack (58)
It's almost a good thing Patto isn't in the short form squads. Gives him a few shield games to hopefully back up and build on this form. Starc in for Bird and this is a very very good fast bowling attack. Just need Mitch Marsh to push that average into the 30s, and get Voges replacement lined up and you're set for the next 3 or 4 years.
 

The_Brown_Hornet

John Eales (66)
Yeah as much as we bag the selectors at times, that test side looks formidable now and with depth too. Considering all the blokes we've lost, the fact that we're still winning test matches is a testament to the players and the system that produces them.
 

Brumby Runner

David Wilson (68)
http://www.cricket.com.au/news/aust...am-voges-umpire-across-ditch-optus/2016-02-22

I am absolutely in awe of the Australian fielders' abilities to make the ball hit the rough surface on the one side of the ball when they throw it into the pitch from deep in the field.

Common sense (which neither of the umpires in this match have shown in any great quantity) would suggest that each side would be scuffed on 50% of occasions. Yet apparently the umpire was convinced that the Aussie fielders had some sort of magical prowess to cause one side to be scuffed up more than the other.

Pity they (umpires) didn't take the time to count the bouncers being delivered by Wagner and then take some action that would have been covered by the laws of the game. Amongst other blatant examples of over-delivering short pitched balls at or outside the leg stump, Wagner's first three deliveries to Pattinson were all out and out bouncers - not just short pitched. Not a murmur from Kettleborough or his comrade-in-arms.
 

Braveheart81

Will Genia (78)
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You're not actually that concerned which side the ball lands on when you're doing that. Reverse swing relies on the ball being pretty roughed up in general so the tactic of bouncing the throws in on the pitch is just to make the ball rougher, faster.

You keep shining one side but in general the ball is getting more and more roughed up. Eventually it should start reversing when the original rough side becomes particularly roughed up and the air stops acting on that side of the ball as it did early on.
 

Highlander35

Andrew Slack (58)
You rough it up until one side is roughed up to the necessary standard, and then you work on restoring and retaining the shiny on the less roughed up side. I think, anyway.
 

Braveheart81

Will Genia (78)
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You rough it up until one side is roughed up to the necessary standard, and then you work on restoring and retaining the shiny on the less roughed up side. I think, anyway.


Yep. Once it stops swinging conventionally you 'let it go' completely until it is really roughed up. Clearly bouncing the ball on the square/pitch will speed up that process.
 
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