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AUS v IND ODI Series 2016

Discussion in 'Cricket' started by Quick Hands, Jan 11, 2016.

  1. Jets Tony Shaw (54)

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    Yeah I could have thrown down a few and gone for as many runs as some of the guys today. Also think UK should have been given a chance. He's been in great form and I just don't get S Marsh, he's a flat track bully in my eyes. (No doubt will go on to be Aust best ever ODI batsman to prove me wrong).


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  2. Highlander35 Paul McLean (56)

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    Think one of these guys just needs to go very very soon. There's a LOT of batting to come, including a few big hitters, 4 and a bit an over isn't enough when you need to chase 310.
  3. Quick Hands David Wilson (68)

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    The selectors clearly can't bring themselves to finally draw a line through SMarsh. Dropped 4 times last night (first on 19), ended up with a good score but was hardly convincing, despite the ravings of James Bradshaw. Can't really see the purpose of bringing UK into the sqaud just to wear a fluro vest and run around with gatorade - he's in the test team so he knows what it's like around the team. Anyway, I guess the believe that the Indians will make enough mistakes in the field to get us home no matter what. 5 or 6 dropped catches, 11 wides, 1 no ball and some very odd bowling changes and fields from Dhoni. So they give us 12 runs and bowled 2 extra overs. Bailey is the pick of the players at the moment - he appears in total control - outscored Smith when they batted together.
  4. Highlander35 Paul McLean (56)

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    As the commentators said on the night, Starc, Pattinson, Cummins and Hazelwood is a very different proposition from Paris, Boland, Richardson and Hastings. That would hopefully be able to bundle out India for less.

    Would still quite like a proper spinner.

    Ussie to open tomorrow please.
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  5. Strewthcobber Mark Ella (57)

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    Both of these meaningless ODIs rating well above any Big Bash game so far (1.7m for the second session - max of about 1.2m for BBL)

    There's life in these old dog's legs yet.
  6. Pfitzy Tim Horan (67)

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    Well, partly that's due to partisanship - more Aussie supporters than there are Thunder fans, for example.

    Before I launch into this, a caveat: both bowling attacks in this series are rubbish.

    That said, I found both ODIs boring as Captain Borey McBorington, Acting Commander of Boring Company of the Boringshire Borers.

    I'm not talking about big hitting or all the circus that T20 provides. Its just that, with the flat decks, and no real bowling threat, the batsmen could just plod along until they reached 50, then maybe light up on the odd ball.

    Now, I accept that T20 is all about the batsman; but ODIs are going the same way, with mishit edges going over the rope, and no seam on the ball to even provide a challenge.
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  7. The_Brown_Hornet Michael Lynagh (62)

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    Yep, the 50 over game bores me to tears now.
  8. WorkingClassRugger Andrew Slack (58)

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    The ODI format lost its appeal for me quite some time ago. Preferred the old Tri-Series format than these individual series. As for the ratings. You would expect more people to tune in to watch the national team play.
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  9. Quick Hands David Wilson (68)

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    It's almost as if both sides have given away trying to get the opposition out or even restrict them. They pick mediocre bowling attacks and just hope that they can score more runs that their opponents. If we're going to be fair dinkum about 50 over cricket, then at least one of the bowlers needs to be able to bowl at 140km/h plus regularly and the spinner needs to be able to take wickets and/or slow the scoring right down. The Australian bowling attack possesses neither at the moment. As for India, they need to stop bowling wides and stop setting fields which give away 6 singles an over.
  10. The_Brown_Hornet Michael Lynagh (62)

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    I'd be happy for ODI cricket to disappear altogether and leave us with T20 and tests. I don't see the point of having the three formats any more and a few players like ABdV are starting to question the sheer amount of cricket being played across all forms. Something for the ICC to think about. That said, it won't happen because the Indians won't let it.
  11. Quick Hands David Wilson (68)

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    Like test cricket, 50 over cricket needs a pitch that provides something for the bowlers - otherwise we just get what we've seen in the first 2 ODIs. I don't mind T20 cricket, but I'm not sure it should exist at international level - but the Indians want it so....

    From what I've seen over the past two or three summers, the biggest problem facing cricket in Australia at the moment is the pitches. I don't know what has happened, but what we've seen are pitches which start and finish as batting paradises with little or no assistance for the bowlers. The WACA is the worst example of it, but it's everywhere. I can't recall so many large totals, so many declarations and so few games in which 40 wickets fall. Results only came this year because the Kiwis were underdone coming into Brisbane and the West Indies were so bad. The only test which was an even contest between bat and ball was in Adelaide. It's a problem that CA needs to address quickly.
  12. Strewthcobber Mark Ella (57)

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    I agree to a point, but then Australia never seems to have as much trouble getting 20 wickets as the opposition.

    The real issue is the inadequacies of opposition bowlers on our pitches.

    Teams have been turning up with swing bowlers, and average off spinners for decades and get smashed all over the place every year. Those sort of bowlers don't work here, or at least aren't as effective here, but teams never seem to work that out.
  13. WorkingClassRugger Andrew Slack (58)

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    Yeah, while I quite enjoy the BBL I'm not too keen on using T20 as an international format. I actually think its strength is in being a primarily domestically driven product. If they have to have international T20 then only in the form of a WC every 4 years.
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  14. Sully John Eales (66)

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    I can't be bothered watching 20/20. I feel sorry for the bowlers running in on flat tracks to batters with little to lose holding massive lumps of wood.
    It's not a contest.
    Cricket should have limited bat size years ago.

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  15. Jets Tony Shaw (54)

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    There was some chat the other day of using the pink ball for ODI's and T20's. It has some merit as the ball in Adelaide did a lot and the bowlers need more help.
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  16. The_Brown_Hornet Michael Lynagh (62)

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    That's a great idea. I'd love to see the ball decking around in the limited overs forms of the game to create a bit more uncertainty amongst the batsmen. It's just carnage out there now.
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  17. Strewthcobber Mark Ella (57)

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    Saw an interesting discussion about this on twitter.

    The argument was that the pink ball swung because so much grass was left on the pitch and the ball didn't get roughed up as much as it normally does on our rock hard pitches.

    The pink ball is very similar to the white ball

    fix the pitch and it doesn't matter which ball is used.
  18. waiopehu oldboy Tim Horan (67)

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    I'm the exact opposite: BBL, IPL, CPL etc are far too contrived for mine, but put the players in (kinda) national colours & I'll watch it.

    That said, I agree with @Sully in that it needs to be made more of a contest, whether by limiting the weight & thickness of bats, producing balls of whatever colour that "do more" in the air, preparing wickets that allow said ball to "do more" off the wicket, or all of the above.

    Another idea: years ago Martin Crowe devised CricketMax for SkyNZ (at the time TVNZ owned the rights to all existing domestic formats) that amongst other things gave the bowlers four stumps to aim at.
  19. The_Brown_Hornet Michael Lynagh (62)

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    Well that wouldn't be so bad I reckon.
  20. WorkingClassRugger Andrew Slack (58)

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    Contrived or not people are voting with their feet and with their TVs. And they are saying T20 is very popular. People have noted that the current ODIs have outrated the BBL. Which is true. Though for a fair comparison you'd have to put them up against one another which won't happen.

    I agree particularly on the pitches in the BBL. I would like to see more in them for the bowlers but I'd also like to see some smarter bowling.

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