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AUS Vs WI 15/16

Discussion in 'Cricket' started by Jellic87, Dec 1, 2015.

  1. Strewthcobber Mark Ella (57)

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    They've been using drop in pitches since 1996.

    I reckon they are much, much better test wickets than the rubbish tracks that were served up at the MCG before then and we get a result pretty much every game. Windies even sent us in thinking the pitch would do something. Can't ask for too much more than that.

    http://m.cricbuzz.com/cricket-serie...d-cup-2015/venues/87/melbourne-cricket-ground
  2. Highlander35 Paul McLean (56)

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    Wonder if Victoria's move to Junction Oval will help or hinder the development of the drop in Pitches.
  3. Quick Hands David Wilson (68)

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    Couldn't find the 1996 reference there, but I accept what you say.

    From what I can see, the earlier MCG drop-ins were spongy (which seems to be what the newer Showground and Etihad pitches are like) and more recently that don't deteriorate as much as regular pitches. This is the only real analysis that I can find.
    http://www.espncricinfo.com/blogs/content/story/813275.html


    I woudn't be placing too much store in the tactical nous of the current WIndies team. The would have bowled first in Hobart too, as they see their bowling as their strength and their batting as their weakness.
  4. Quick Hands David Wilson (68)

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    You take Bill Lawry and Ian Chappell out and it's just a bunch of boof heads sharing in-jokes and pumping up each other's weights.

    Quite sad - it's just a superannuated old mates club. (James Brayshaw is like the nerdy kid with rich parents who has bought his way into the cool kids gang)

    The contrast with the lively, humourous and informative BBL commentary on 10 is stark.
  5. The_Brown_Hornet Michael Lynagh (62)

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    100% It's pitiful.
  6. No4918 John Hipwell (52)

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    The poor commentary seems to be spilling over to the ABC unfortunately.
  7. Strewthcobber Mark Ella (57)

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    Inyerested as to what you think the problems have been?

    I've thought its been mostly excellent this year. Rogers, katich and Dirk know the current players inside out and haven't been afraid to express their opinions, even if I haven't always agreed with it.

    The west Indian (Fazeer?)gives insight into their system that no one else is providing and the Aussie pros do a decent ball-by-ball job.

    One of the big problems with nine is they clearly don't do their homework. They don't know who half the opposition players are and can give us no insight into them at all. It's infuriating.
  8. No4918 John Hipwell (52)

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    Seems to be a lot less ball by ball stuff and more swapping stories than years past. Some overs will pass without a mention of what has happened in the middle. It was funny yesterday with Rogers trying to tell a story about a dinner the night before that he and the Fazeer spoke at, Rogers was getting interrupted half way through every sentence by Fazeer so the play could be described. It was bad radio and most others don't seem to bother. I do agree that they are better generally than the 9 crew and there is better analysis but I am concerned the swapping pub stories has intruded a touch to far.
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  9. The_Brown_Hornet Michael Lynagh (62)

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    I'm getting a little tired of the tales if yesteryear too. That was one of the great things about Richie: he hardly ever talked about himself. It was always about the game in progress and the modern player, very rarely was it "back in my day.". Bill actually let slip the other day when he said "You don't really want to talk about yourself, but there was this story...". As much as I like the analysis that Chappelli provides, it comes with too much of his own experiences from a completely different era of cricket. Now granted, he was at the vanguard of the modern game, but do we really have to hear about some long forgotten test match 45 years ago? Tony used to be bad too: always reminding Bill about the drubbing he copped from RSA in 1969/70, to which Bill would then dutifully reply about the pasting in 1974/5. All great stuff, but it seemed like every test match we heard about it!
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  10. Quick Hands David Wilson (68)

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    Yes, I often have the ABC cricket on when in the car and the other day we drove home from the beach and I don't think there was any description of the play at all - the score certainly wasn't mentioned and I had to get home and turn on the TV to get it. I can't even remember what they were talking about it was so banal.
  11. Quick Hands David Wilson (68)

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    I agree to an extent, but even that stuff is light years ahead of what it being served up now. It's just so bad.
  12. Quick Hands David Wilson (68)

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    On a more positive note, I reckon that the on field umpiring this summer has been superb. I can't recall a poor decision and the DRS has proven the umpires right in just about every case. The only bad call that I can remember was the 3rd umpire call in Adelaide by Nigel Llong. Whoever is selecting and coaching the international umpires panel is doing a great job.
  13. The_Brown_Hornet Michael Lynagh (62)

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    Oh you're quite right. It's bloody terrible.
  14. The_Brown_Hornet Michael Lynagh (62)

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    Agree with that too. The standard of umpiring this summer has been pretty excellent.
  15. Strewthcobber Mark Ella (57)

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    Only criticism I would have is the complete abdication of no ball rulings.

    Tim Southee was breaking the return crease at least once an over, but never called. Patto must be bowling more than he is being called.

    The umps have to be on top of it in the game. Can't just be reviewed at a wicket.
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  16. light Peter Fenwicke (45)

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    The no-ball is a huge issue I think. Bowlers like Patto are going to be consistently checked whenever they take wickets and as you say, it makes you wonder how many illegal balls they are bowling that the umps aren't checking. Other bowlers they don't even bother checking the no-ball for.

    IMO the third umpire should have immediate access to reviews of each delivery and there should be some time to review the delivery before the next ball is bowled. I don't have a problem with the umpire calling the no-ball once he's been alerted by the third umpire provided it's before the next delivery.
  17. Lindommer Andrew Slack (58)

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    If any of you reckon the Channel Nine commentary to be less than acceptable while watching on TV, just think how annoying they are at the ground. And don't start me on Jane McGrath Day at the SCG, it's excruciatingly painful. I've vowed to never attend day 3 of a Sydney test ever again.
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  18. Strewthcobber Mark Ella (57)

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    81k at the MCG tonight. Pretty amazing
  19. light Peter Fenwicke (45)

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    On the McGrath note, I met Pidge on the first day of the Boxing Day test whilst I was on a beer run. Had a chat and even got a photo with the great man, he was extremely generous with his time despite having other places to be.

    Was a massive fan girl moment, what a legend he is!
  20. Strewthcobber Mark Ella (57)

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    Pretty flat, hard dry Sydney pitch which is both typical and to be expected given the forecast rain. Windies bat first and doing OK.

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