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Australia v Ireland, Sat 9th June @ 8.00pm, Suncorp Brisbane

Discussion in 'Rugby Matches' started by KOB1987, Jun 4, 2018.

  1. KOB1987 Tony Shaw (54)

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    My prediction:

    1. Sio
    2. Latu
    3. Kepu
    4. Coleman
    5. Rodda
    6. Tui
    7. Hooper
    8. Pocock
    9. Genia
    10. Foley
    11. Koroibete
    12. Beale
    13. Kuridrani
    14. DHP
    15. Folau

    16. Faingaa
    17. Robertson
    18. Tupou
    19. Simmons
    20. Timu
    21. Phipps
    22. Hodge
    23. Maddocks
  2. Braveheart81 Rocky Elsom (76)

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    My team (current edition) would be:

    Sio, BPA, Tupou
    Coleman, Rodda
    Pocock, Hooper, Timu
    Genia, Foley
    Koroibete, Beale, Kuridrani, DHP

    Latu, Robertson, Kepu, Simmons, Samu, Phipps, Hodge, Rona

    Tupou's form is hard to deny. He now starts. Latu's experience gets him a gig even though he is (or will probably be) a late edition to the squad. Hard to go into the game with two debutantes at hooker.

    Really tempted to select Banks on one of the wings and Rona instead of Kuridrani but I think the short preparation means to go for experience.

    Maybe Kerevi makes the side but I think Kuridrani's defence gets the nod.

    I'm away for the long weekend with no TV so won't be able to watch the game until Monday night. Not sure how I'll cope!
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  3. upthereds#! Colin Windon (37)

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    With such a small prep time, I think Cheika could pick more established combinations for the 1st game at least, particularly front row and inside backs (inc 13). Not my dream team, but kinda makes sense given the time constraints. Bring out the big guns and better individuals for rounds 2 & 3

    1. Sio 2. Faingaa 3. Alaalatoa
    4. Rodda 5. Coleman
    6. Tui 8. Poey 7. Hoops
    9. Genia 10. Foley 11. Koroibete 12. Beale 13. Rona 14. Hodge 15. Folau
    16. Latu 17. Robetson 18. Kepu 19. Simmons 20. Timu 21. Phipps 22. Kerevi 23. DHP
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  4. KOB1987 Tony Shaw (54)

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    Good points and I can see the logic in starting with that front row and 10-12-13-15. I'd probably have all of the other options over Hodge at 14 but would have him as 22 or 23 for his versatility. Re the front row though is 1. Sio 2. Faingaa 3. Alaalatoa > 1. Robertson 2. Latu 3. Kepu ? And I'd have Kuridrani over Kerevi as a reserve.
  5. upthereds#! Colin Windon (37)

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    Mainly because I just don't rate Robertson and will never think otherwise, logically or not, and I'm still dirty that Rangi didn't get in on form over Faingaa, so there is no way I can put Latu with the 48 seconds he has played over Faingaa.

    I'd prefer to swap Hodge and DHP, but DHP hasn't had many runs, so for the first game I think that will matter. If it was to START at 13 instead of Rona I'd go with Kuridrani, but as an impact sub, I'd go with Kerevi.
  6. Scoey Tony Shaw (54)

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    What's with all the love for Tui at 6? I think he's played there once for the Reds and my memory of it was that he was a bit to slow to be a decent 6. Has he played more 6 than I'm aware of or remember?
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  7. upthereds#! Colin Windon (37)

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    Probably less love and more an acceptance of what has been in the media regarding a need for a lineout option at 6 for the 1st game at least.

    I'd rather Tui than Hanigan especially with Poey and Hoops there.
  8. TSR Chilla Wilson (44)

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    Big Call starting Tui. I know the guy is a big body, and a jumper but he is still a rookie, has no match Fitness and no experience playing at 6. Very much setting him up to fail IMO.
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  9. Up the Guts Ken Catchpole (46)

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    Philip is the lock that probably would most easily transition into 6 but he's obviously not an option. Tui may be good if he gets more experience but it's a big leap from Reserve Grade one week to playing the second best side in the world at a position you're not really used to the next week.
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  10. Ignoto Nicholas Shehadie (39)

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    Agreed. Tui at best will last 50 minutes and then you're back to Timu at 6. You may as well pick a guy that has been playing in that role and has plenty of minutes under his belt.

    Pocock or Hooper could easily get a head knock early in the first half, meaning Timu/Samu comes on early and Tui is then forced to play the entire 80 minutes where he's a passenger for 30 minutes.
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  11. upthereds#! Colin Windon (37)

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    Reds benefit with Timu on there.is that Higs or ASY are the backrow jumper, not Timu. So i guess it'll come down to the perceived importance of the lineout.
  12. Derpus Greg Davis (50)

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    He won't even make the 23. definitely not now that Samu is available.
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  13. upthereds#! Colin Windon (37)

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    Samu is the same size as mcmahon. He is a utility bench player, not a starting 6 to balance Pocock and Hooper.
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  14. TSR Chilla Wilson (44)

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    I agree - I was just responding to other people’s team selections
  15. KOB1987 Tony Shaw (54)

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    I think maybe we're all just too focused on the best 3rd lineout option working off the assumption that he's going to start the Pooper. But maybe he's not going to, maybe it'll be 6. Samu 7. Hooper 8. Timu
  16. Brumby Runner Nick Farr-Jones (63)

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    Robertson, Hooker (Latu hasn't started enough to judge), Kepu has been dominated by just about every side they've faced in Super. Sio, Faingaa, Alaalatoa has won the battle in every game that Faingaa has started. The answer is obvious.
  17. Pfitzy John Eales (66)

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    The only conclusion you can draw from that is: don't pick the Waratahs' second row.

    I don't think Robertson should be picked ahead of Sio but while AAAA has come on nicely, against Ireland in the first game you want your most experience THP in there along with the best scrummaging hooker available in order to sound them out and see what they've got.

    Back it up with a big angry second row with Coleman in it, and then see where the chips fall.
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  18. Brumby Runner Nick Farr-Jones (63)

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    I think Cheika will pick:

    Sio, BPA, Kepu
    Coleman, Simmons
    Pocock, Hooper, Timu
    Genia, Foley, DHP, Beale, Kuridrani, Koriobete

    I would go with :

    Sio, Latu, Alaalatoa
    Coleman, Rodda
    Samu, Pocock, Timu
    Genia, Foley, Maddox, Kerevi, DHP, Koriobete,

    I'd have a bench of:

    Faingaa, Robertson, Tupou, Tui, Hooper, Powell, Beale, Rona.
  19. KOB1987 Tony Shaw (54)

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    BR when was the last time DHP played #13 that you are aware of?

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  20. Strewthcobber Tony Shaw (54)

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    There's bound to be a replay of Bled 1 2016 when DHP moved to OC after Gits went off after 5 mins but there's no way I'm going to watch any of it.

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