Australia vs South Africa 8th September

[Strewthcobber]

Beale plays a lot of 10 from phase play for the Tahs, so the 30 months for playing 10 whilst literally correct, isn't.

What gain in defense, we lose in the ability to play unstructured from phase using second lines etc

Yeah - that one was a bit of a stretch

 

[dru]

Well this is Interesting.

Strangely the stiffening up of an attacking back line that can more stay in slot at the change to D was more important against the ABs. But I’m interested in how this goes. Our fly-in-from Euro boys are going to be tested.

 

[fatprop]

he's basically been playing 10 for the Wallabies too. I wonder if To'omua will roam outwide as much as Foley does?

Or does To'omua step into 10 and Beale runs the wider channels

The challenge with Beale at 10 is his inability to keep the attack square, under a rush defense he goes side ways well behind the gain line

 

[Tomikin]

Hopefully its just numbers on there back probably defensivly Beale in at 10 attack 12 or when he see the oppertunity

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[Brumby Runner]

That will make BR happy.

Powell on the bench offers nothing. Why not Gordon?

Otherwise pretty happy. Be interesting to see the Beale/To'omua axis.

I could nearly have picked that side myself. Except I wouldn't have the Pooper.

 

[Tomikin]

I could nearly have picked that side myself. Except I wouldn't have the Pooper.

I was just about to send out the search party for you mate..thought you might have had a heart attack.

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[Brumby Runner]

No Kepu is also interesting. My man, the greatest Wallaby prop...

Once again a Waratah is cruelly overlooked.

Don't celebrate yet BR. He'll be back

I have no doubt B, but I do expect he'll be injury cover come RWC.

 

[Brumby Runner]

They will interchange. Something had to change, it was not working.

To'omua and Kurtley could be a very good combination of skills.

Reminiscent of Cooper To'omua hopefully.

 

[Brumby Runner]

I was just about to send out the search party for you mate..thought you might have had a heart attack.

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Coincidentally perhaps, I have been booked in for an angiogram on Tuesday. Just hope I get through the weekend in one piece.

 

[Brumby Runner]

Well, I certainly hope to see a much better performance (not about winning as such but in the manner of how they play) this weekend given this is with only one or two missed opportunities the team I have been pushing for over the past few weeks. I would not personally persist with the Pooper. If Tui is given another chance at 6, then I'd have Timu at 8. I am also still a bit off Koroibete on the wing. I'd rather go with one of Banks or Maddocks until I am convinced on Koroibete's understanding of the intracacies of the game.

I would also have more changes on the bench.

 

[Joe Blow]

There are 5 new names on the bench?

 

[TSR]

Coincidentally perhaps, I have been booked in for an angiogram on Tuesday. Just hope I get through the weekend in one piece.

Good luck BR. Hope it all comes up well.

 

[ACT Crusader]

Or does To'omua step into 10 and Beale runs the wider channels

The challenge with Beale at 10 is his inability to keep the attack square, under a rush defense he goes side ways well behind the gain line

Beale’s ability to find a gap in broken play is his real strength. I agree he does have a tendency to crab and that will be exposed at 1st 5 more so than our wider. Giteau had the same issues when he played 10

 

[Up the Guts]

The challenge with Beale at 10 is his inability to keep the attack square, under a rush defense he goes side ways well behind the gain line

Yep, a schoolboy habit gone uncorrected because of his rapid transition to professionalism, similar to Quade and tackling. We've had a real problem with some of our best schoolboy prodigies being blooded too quickly before their weaknesses, masked at lower levels by their other talents, are worked on. Our most well rounded players aren't the ones who signed contracts straight out of school.

Thankfully someone had the sense to hold back Tupou back from Wallaby selection till he got a chance to develop his scrummaging.

 

[Tomikin]

Yep, a schoolboy habit gone uncorrected because of his rapid transition to professionalism, similar to Quade and tackling. We've had a real problem with some of our best schoolboy prodigies being blooded too quickly before their weaknesses, masked at lower levels by their other talents, are worked on. Our most well rounded players aren't the ones who signed contracts straight out of school.

Thankfully someone had the sense to hold back Tupou back from Wallaby selection till he got a chance to develop his scrummaging.

Like Pocock and Hooper ? Or Matt To'omua ?

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[Lorenzo]

Guys like Giteau and Beale play the way they play because they've been rewarded for doing so at every level below playing the top 3 or 4 test sides. You can get away with the crabbing in super rugby no problem and the D is often questionable enough that guys light on their feet can run around defenders.

Not regularly the case against the good test sides, which is why you see such differences in attack outcomes between the tahs playing the (Johannesburg, not British and Irish) Lions and the wallabies playing the ABs or Irish, even though its largely the same group of guys executing it.

 

[Strewthcobber]

Guys like Giteau and Beale play the way they play because they've been rewarded for doing so at every level below playing the top 3 or 4 test sides. .

So you're saying we should be ok with Beale at 10 against these Boks?

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[Bobby Sands]

Beale or To'omua at 10 are substantial step-ups from Foley, despite their perceived or actual weaknesses.

For starters, we now have a midfield that can kick and defend, and potentially attack off-first phase structured ball.

 

[Joe Blow]

Beale or To'omua at 10 are substantial step-ups from Foley, despite their perceived or actual weaknesses.

For starters, we now have a midfield that can kick and defend, and potentially attack off-first phase structured ball.

Not really. We will now find out one way or the other.
Foley is an excellent bloke to have in the 23.

 

[MarkJ]

So what happens with kicking for goal now? Will Hodge take all of them?