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Australian Rugby Development Centre

Discussion in 'Rugby Discussion' started by p.Tah, Aug 17, 2013.

  1. p.Tah Jim Lenehan (48)

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    This was announced at the game tonight. Hopefully it doesn't go the way of Howard's Ballymore funding.

    http://www.rugby.com.au/News/NewsArticle/tabid/1699/ArticleID/10048/Default.aspx
  2. TOCC David Wilson (68)

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    Hmm can we sing their praises or highlight the fact that other codes have been leveraging federal funding for similar projects for years now, at a much greater level not to mention.. Both the South Sydney Rabbitohs and Brisbane Lions have announced new 'training facilities' to be built with $16million federal funding in the past few weeks.

    Other club teams to source federal funding for training facility upgrades in recent years:

    South Sydney Rabbitohs: $16million(2013)

    Brisbane Lions: $15million(2013)

    Western Sydney Wanderers/Parramatta Eels: $30million(2013)

    Penrith Panthers: $13million(2013)

    Manly: $10million (2013)

    Collingwood: $12million (2012)

    Essendon: $9million (2009)

    Carlton: $4million(2009)

    Western Bulldogs: $8million(2004)
  3. TOCC David Wilson (68)

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    For the record i think the project's fantastic, but it just highlights another area the ARU has failed comparitively in recent years, the other codes have been able to leverage hundreds of $million in funding for either capital upgrades or grass root development projects and the most rugby has been able to do is secure $1million for Olympic 7's funding, which to be fair was a result of the IRB's actions rather then the ARU's.

    FFA has been leading the way in tapping into government funding through various projects and schemes, the AFL has been using federal funding to build new facilities for all its clubs and it seems the NRL has picked up its game and has started to do both of these better as well.

    I guess the ARU should be applauded for squeezing some pork barrelling.
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  4. Richo John Thornett (49)

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    In a world of pork barreling, I absolutely agree. But I'd prefer the federal govt didn't subsidize professional sport with my tax dollars.
  5. #1 Tah Chilla Wilson (44)

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    I'd prefer the federal government especially not subsidise drugged up sports with my tax dollars.

    And I'm not even a tax payer!
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  6. TOCC David Wilson (68)

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  7. Hugh Jarse Rocky Elsom (76)

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    Any Federal sports development money in Rugby spent west of the Sydney Harbour Bridge, and not within the grounds of a Private School or University, is to be applauded no matter how politically motivated it is.

    Both TA and JH are rugger buggers, although many will note their Sydney Private School and Sydney Uni connections may do little to separate them from the heavy hitting rugby underworld figures that Inside Shoulder appears to have upset.

    Good to see how much money that the Drug Cheating sports that have rivers of gold flowing their way from massive FTA contracts have acquired from the Federal government. NOT.

    Also very happy to see that Souths rabbits have $16m upgrade to their training facilities. I hope that this is for the future facility that is being proposed for them that a snout tells me will be build in Heffron Park Maroubra in 2017. It would be particularly tragic of this $13m was being spent to upgrade their facilities only to have them move to Maroubra in 2017 to a new facility.
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  8. TOCC David Wilson (68)

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    I should have specified that the $16million allocation to Souths is for their new Maroubra training facility.

    But it makes you wonder how a NRL clubs receives a 60% larger grant from the federal government then the peak Rugby Union body does.
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  9. Lindommer Mark Ella (57)

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    Although thrilled rugby is (finally) getting a few, well-deserved dollars from the public purse, I can't help thinking Ballymore would've been a better choice. Having spent six years in Brisbane from 1976 to 1982 when Ballymore was at its peak as THE rugby spot in Brisbane, followed by too many visits to Millner as a junior parent, Pirates supporter and referee/TJ there's no doubt in my mind Ballymore has more to offer as a rugby development centre. It's significantly bigger for starters, with tons of space to add buildings, gyms, car parks, etc. And it's got a lot more potential to develop friendly public transport access than Eastwood'll ever have. Suggestion: build a specialised bus terminal adjacent to the old Finsbury grounds across the creek. Eastwood's out of the way for most of Sydney as well as a considerable distance from public transport. AFAIK, its only advantage is it's the only ground in Sydney owned by the rugby family associated with the attached club. For those of you who don't know, Eastwood Rugby doesn't own Millner, Vimiera Recreation Grounds Limited was set up to hold the ground after it was gifted to Eastwood by Colonel Millner in 1950; VRG's directors are all Eastwood rugby men.
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  10. Hugh Jarse Rocky Elsom (76)

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    Particularly when that mungo club who is receiving $16m federal money is supported by a poker machine superclub like Souths Juniors that exists to separate those who can least afford it from their money.

    Why can't Rusty chuck a few more $ their way. It is not as if he is short a bob or two, unlike the Feds.
  11. boyo Paul McLean (56)

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    TG Millner has buses nearby (the buses on Epping Rd. which go to and from Epping Railway Statiion).

    Public transport passing the ground itself is virtually non-existent.
  12. Pfitzy Rod McCall (65)

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    Votes for the appropriate party in their preferred electorates? Swing vote elsewhere.

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  13. Ruggo Mark Ella (57)

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    Probably put 60% more effort into the community.
  14. #1 Tah Chilla Wilson (44)

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    How much of that $16 mill do you think is going to the pommy bloke who tackles guys by the testicles?

    And Lindommer, do you think the QLD govt had a part in ballymore losing out? Would they have funded this kind of development? (asking because I seriously know nothing about QLD politics)
  15. TOCC David Wilson (68)

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    They likely would have, whether to the tune of $10millions is debatable, the offered $4million back in 2007. The problem with Ballymore is that it sits in the Federal MP electorate of Brisbane and the local residents surrounding Ballymore are known as rather vocal NIMBY's(Not In My Back Yard). All in all it probably wouldn't serve as a very good pork barreling investment..
  16. Prodigy Ted Thorn (20)

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    My understanding is hat North Ryde RSL own TG Millner Field
  17. Westie Sydney Middleton (9)

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    That's great. Leading Sydney rugby club gets handout. Penrith still winless. Nswru are fuckwits.
  18. Pfitzy Rod McCall (65)

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    Westie me old China, did you honestly expect anything else from the ivory tower?

    Just tug your forelock and be thankful it's actually west of the M3. Just!

    Not that any western suburbs people like us can see it from here. But at least it will piss off the entitled little bastards who are forced to drive their 5 Series from Mosman some time in the future.

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  19. Lindommer Mark Ella (57)

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    They don't. The Eastwood licensed club (a different entity to the rugby club) ran into difficulties some time ago and was effectively gifted to North Ryde RSL in return for running it at the ground. The real estate has ALWAYS been owned by Vimiera Recreational Grounds, blokes like Brett Papworth are directors of VRG. See here: http://www.linkedin.com/groups/East...ost_popular_guest-0-b-cmn&goback=.gmp_4411672
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  20. wamberal Tony Shaw (54)

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    A handout? Eastwood owns the land, they are entitled to sell it. That's not a handout, that's a commercial transaction.

    We will never know the financial details, but I think you can assume that the price paid to Eastwood would be significantly less than they could get on the open market, a discounted price to reflect the value that the Club will get from being able to remain there in perpetuity.


    Penrith got some pretty good handouts a few years ago, they had a very competitive team captained by Peter Besseling, and featuring half a dozen other Soup standard players. I imagine the hope was that subsidising the club might lead to some community involvement. If the community does not want to support the game, in cash and in kind, then unfortunately the game will not be there for the community. Harsh, but that's the way it is.

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