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Australian Rugby / RA

Discussion in 'Rugby Discussion' started by Dave Beat, May 21, 2013.

  1. Pfitzy Tim Horan (67)

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    Sorry I've beaten all of you to it - go reference my McDonalds argument. Its on here about a thousand times.
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  2. TahDan Cyril Towers (30)

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    What is it? I've always referred to soccer as the MacDonald's of world sport: cheap, ubiquitous, accessible and basically crap.
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  3. Quick Hands David Wilson (68)

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    You'd be wanting big bucks for that gig.:)
  4. Pfitzy Tim Horan (67)

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    Rugby League = McDonalds. Has nutrients, taste that is popular and can be taken in small doses by the discerning. Not all that good for you regularly. But it is presented in roughly the same way every time, so it never dips too low from the median, but never scales any heights either. Homogeneity is the key when your audience accepts mediocrity.

    Rugby Union = Gourmet cooking. Covers a much wider range of tastes. Product can look different everywhere you go. Sometimes it is crap.

    Like those restaurants where every dish looks good on the menu but just has ONE FUCKING ITEM YOU DESPISE! DON'T FUCK AROUND WITH MY WAGYU, THIBAULT, JUST KNOCK THE HORNS OFF, WIPE ITS ARSE, AND PUT THE FUCKING THING ON THE PLATE!!!!

    Where was I? Oh yeah.

    The point is - rugby can be utter bullshit, but it can scale some tremendous heights. The pinnacle of sport in its beauty. The ugly bridesmaid that your wingman should take care of some days.

    Here endeth the lesson.
  5. TahDan Cyril Towers (30)

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    I prefer my Maccas comparison. But that's just because I hate soccer more than any other sport and happen to hate Maccas too .
  6. Pfitzy Tim Horan (67)

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    But McDonalds isn't crap if you don't have anything to compare it to.

    Soccer isn't McDonalds - its more like, well, like a Cornetto. Mostly its just fucking ice cream, but occasionally you get a bit of awesome chocolate to make it seem better than it is.
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  7. TahDan Cyril Towers (30)

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    Nah, it's MacDonalds - it's all over the world, pretends it's cultured by throwing in the odd locally targeted burger with a chunk of beetroot or salsa, but ultimately its all the same crap and you wouldn't eat it if you had pretty well anything else available.
  8. Pfitzy Tim Horan (67)

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    I think your personal view point colours your analogy
  9. TahDan Cyril Towers (30)

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    LoL I'm sure it does - but then are you saying yours doesn't? I still think I have a point - soccer fans are the biggest wankers of any football code in Australian sports. All the sanctimonious nonsense that gets bandied about by their fans about its cultural sophistication and ownership of the word "football" (total BS) does annoy me.
  10. Braveheart81 Rocky Elsom (76)

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    I think that says more about you than them.
  11. TahDan Cyril Towers (30)

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    No, it really says more about them. I don't tell people off for using the word "football" in any scenario, but work with guys who get into a massive tiz if I use the word "soccer" and then feel the need to give me a sermon on their game and why it'll take over Australia when I argue it's a legitimate term.
  12. cornetto Peter Burge (5)

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    I resemble that remark..
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  13. Sully John Eales (66)

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    Maybe we should spend less time making up analogies denigrating other sports and more time talking about our sport.
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  14. TahDan Cyril Towers (30)

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    Haven't seen you mods get involved when people go on tangents bagging League for some reason.

    Anyway, that was very much my point if you look at my post on the last page; that Rugby needs to talk about the areas of the game so often criticised by fans of other football codes as positives, rather than simply allowing them to set the tone for how we talk about it by passively agreeing.
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  15. Pfitzy Tim Horan (67)

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    Of course - insofar as I prefer rugby to everything else.

    HOWEVER, I don't think a game is shit by its very existence, or that of its fans. League bores the shit out of me, as do soccer and basketball by and large. But they still have highlights that are watchable, and fans you can talk to.

    Anyone who doesn't get rugby can't be blamed when its so technical, so to segue nicely back into the topic:

    The ARU are now facing a financial crisis with the impending court case from Di Patston I can see happening, so they need to start thinking like a business instead of a collection of old farts.
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  16. formerflanker Bob Davidson (42)

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  17. cyclopath Phil Waugh (73)

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    You can bag another code if you like, if you have a point. No rule says you can't.
    He's trying to get the thread on some track, rather than 2 people arguing over whose analogy fits better - i.e. rather than bore everyone else with a pointless tit-for-tat, talk about something else.
    Rule 10.
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  18. Paradox Banned

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    But we have nothing else to go on by?
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    So it's McKensie's fault that the scandal erupted because he involved himself in to many areas of the ARU? More speculation and sounds a but like victim blaming. As I see it, Link is a victim of this crap. An extremely experienced and successful coach. Great player. Link has involved himself successfully in 3 Australian provinces and was a previous Wallaby assistant coach. I don't think it's fair to suggest he didn't know what he doing and was under performing. There is nothing to suggest this.
  20. ACT Crusader Peter Johnson (47)

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    I know Link's Wallabies head coaching career was bookend by RC campaigns, but a 50% record - some would say that is scandalous.. :)

    There are still a few unknowns that have not been confirmed from the right mouths regarding just how hands on Link was in terms of "other" roles/commitments. Did he really hire Patston? Yes they were at the Reds at the same time, but was it Link that interviewed her or someone else at the ARU or did Link just "parachute" her in?

    Head coaches past and present bring in people and keep on those that were under previous regimes, and some head coaches have to adjust their expectations due to established processes and policies.

    I guess a book or candid interview may be the only way to reveal what Link got right and where he think things turned on their head.

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