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Brisbane City - NRC Team Official Thread

Discussion in 'National Rugby Championship (NRC)' started by RugbyReg, Mar 24, 2014.

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  1. RugbyReg George Smith (75)

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    Do you know that Felsman wanted to play NRC? It's not compulsory.
  2. Luvmyrugby Allen Oxlade (6)

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    no I dont
    that's why I said players like Felsman
  3. RugbyReg George Smith (75)

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    thanks, but I was talking to hammertime.
  4. Luvmyrugby Allen Oxlade (6)

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    Yes the boys have played where they can, after all they are young blokes who love playing footy. I'm certainly not holding anything against them as blokes or as players. Its the system. The "pathway".
    All of these blokes we've mentioned are very (too) soon going to find themselves expected to tackle Kieran Ried or out-ruck Ardie Savea or out-think Beauden Barret or out-cunning Aaron Smith.
    We've already seen what too early selection can do to Placid and Magnay both seriously found out in Super Rugby. The former lost a crucial Game for the Reds v Force when the stupid coach threw him on and they both play like schoolboys.kick for themselves, rush in in defence etc etc
    Not their fault..
    The only one I can think of whose made he transition in recent times is McMahon and he was born 22 years old.
    Mason Banks Russel etc are children and play like it.
    Its why UQ didn't win the GF! Their average age was 21.
    They played schoolboy rugby all year and got away with it, but you cant play like that and win a finals series against the filth and lost 2 in a row.
    The Reds play like it too with a child at 10 and a bunch of underage wooden Indians in the backs. No communication , no plan B, no game management, no chance and not their fault.
  5. TOCC Guest

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    Isn't that the whole purpose of the NRC, to fix those gaps in the development pathway?

    Samu Kerevi was signed by the Reds as a 19year old and played his first game for the Reds in 2014 as a 20yr, he then debut'd for Brisbane City later that year in the inaugural NRC Season. Ideally he would have earned his stripes in the NRC first, but it wasn't around when he was signed in 2013.
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  6. hammertimethere Bill McLean (32)

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    Reg the answer is no I don't for certain, but Fels plays club rugby like a champ and has taken contracts in France and NZ previously I believe so it seems to me he'd like to give rugby a go if offered the chance (which he should have been)
  7. neilc Bob Loudon (25)

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  8. Waterboyrugby Herbert Moran (7)

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    I think that's part of the issue. The lack of club rugby due to 'u20s' commitments. Guys graduate from 20s system into Super not ready, but they are given unwavering preference over club players.

    I don't know why JWC experience is held in such high regard, given that Australia has bombed out early in nearly every tournament, and the players have not proven much at that level. The high regard of playing for your country is obviously there, but the so called 'experience' is not.

    Super 20s again keeps these guys from playing men, and unless this is expanded to include NZ teams, it is fool's gold to suggest that this experience is going to prepare them for the massacre they get every time they play across the ditch.
  9. girtbysea Ward Prentice (10)

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    The Brothers boys assembled at Reds HQ ( I used to call it the QRU) tonight for official photo with the cup. Just to be clear every player made themselves available for NRC selection.

    Quite a bit of bemusement at lack of reps in the backs. How Felsman is not a better wing option based on this season than Perese, Lefau, McNamara and Lacey has me beaten. Also very difficult to work out how Mason and Third get a gig ahead of Stefano Hunt and please do not say potential.

    I read again on the Reds facebook page that Premier QPR is a critical pathway and their great emphasis on how much they care about club rugby. The reality suggests different. Very hard to get recognised if you have not been anointed in the 20's program or that other now to common rugby pathway, the NRL.
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  10. RugbyReg George Smith (75)

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    Well that staggers me then. Mitch for sure should have been picked

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  11. hammertimethere Bill McLean (32)

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    Along with Probably Stef hunt and 1 or 2 others as well.
  12. ikaletahi Herbert Moran (7)

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    Barring the travesty with Felsman, I think some people are confusing the difference between a real terrific team performance with individual performance. Fans of the filth would probably only be happy if all 15 guys from Brothers made the team but lets not forget that Souths won the premiership last year in even more exceptional circumstances and from memory only had a handful picked?
    Look, I dont really think some of those schoolboys are sure things for the next level but who could you pick from the Brothers backline that is better than who was actually selected?
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  13. Happyman Jimmy Flynn (14)

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    Could not Agree more. For mine it almost goes even earlier than that. It is almost like the selectors have a vested interest in someone not coming from outside the system. If someone were to questions might be asked as to how they did not get noticed earlier.
  14. Braveheart81 Rocky Elsom (76)

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    These aren't Premier Rugby rep teams. The coaches and administrators are actively picking players that are either already part of those professional setups or that they think have the potential to be.

    A lot of the under 20 guys getting selected for the NRC are already part of the Super Rugby franchises and they want to continue to develop them.

    Clearly there are some good club performers who missed out and on form and current ability would be ahead of some of those younger guys but that is not the chief selection criteria here.
  15. dru Simon Poidevin (60)

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    Why not?
  16. Braveheart81 Rocky Elsom (76)

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    It's as much a development tool for the Super Rugby teams as it is to give players an opportunity to play at a higher level. The Super Rugby teams are going to want all their players involved including the young guys on development or wide training squad contracts who might still be a year or two away from reaching that level.
  17. dru Simon Poidevin (60)

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    In my view, if the NRC is not providing pathways for deserving Club players and simply providing game time for the already chosen elite pathways. Its missing a very great opportunity.
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  18. Strewthcobber Mark Ella (57)

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    Anyone already getting paid by the QRU will surely get a look in ahead of anybody new - if only because of the finances.
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  19. Braveheart81 Rocky Elsom (76)

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    It is in a lot of cases. There are a lot of uncontracted players in the NRC.

    It's never going to be a rep team though because the goal isn't just to have the best team in that particular year.

    There are a variety of selection criteria which include trying to build for the future.
  20. RugbyReg George Smith (75)

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    I think there's plenty of examples of the opposite.

    Junior Laloifi
    Reece Hodge
    John Porch
    Bloyd Killingworth
    Marco Kotze
    Sam Talakai
    Henry Taefu
    Ben Matwijow
    Alex Gibbon
    Kane Koteka
    Richard Hardwick
    Harry Scoble
    Sefanaia Naivalu
    Guy Millar
    Les Makin
    Ben Hyne
    Jermaine Ainsley
    Paul Asquith

    Now all up there are close to 50 players that have made their Super Rugby debut after their NRC debut, so are part of the development path. But the players above are ones that have come from club land, as far as I can tell weren't necessarily within the 'chosen elite pathways', into the NRC and then beyond (Super Rugby or Aussie 7s).

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