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Brumbies 2017

Discussion in 'Rugby Discussion' started by RoffsChoice, May 10, 2016.

  1. RoffsChoice Peter Fenwicke (45)

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    Reds and Rebels have got started, and the 2016 thread has started talking about signings, time for a Brumbies 2017 thread.

    Problems to solve:
    • No specialist 7 while Pocock is on sabatical
    • Need a third hooker and scrumhalf
    • Jooste is currently the only backup kicker
    • 12 depth could be much better
    • May need a better fullback than Toua
  2. Hugh Jarse Rocky Elsom (76)

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    Could be useful to get a signature from the 2016 Coach as well.

    Confirmed leaving
    Stephen Moore (Hooker) to Reds
    David Pocock (Loose Forward) to Sebbatical
    Ita Vaea (Loose Forward) Retired
    Matt Toomua (flyhalf) to Leicester Tigers
    Albert Anae (Prop)to Mitsubishi Dynaboars
    Joe Tomane(Back 3) to Montpellier

    Signed for 2017

    Allan Alaalatoa
    Les Makin
    Scott Sio
    Ruan Smith
    Ben Alexander

    Joshua Mann-Rea
    Saia Fainga'a (From Reds)

    Rory Arnold
    Sam Carter
    Blake Enever
    Tom Staniforth

    Loose Forwards
    Jarrad Butler
    Scott Fardy
    Jordan Smiler
    Lolo Fakaosilia (From Reds)
    Robert Valentini (From Melbourne Harlequins) to EPS
    Ben Hyne from Short term contract to EPS

    Tomás Cubelli
    Joe Powell (from EPS)

    Nick Jooste
    Christian Lealiifano

    Tevita Kuridrani
    Andrew Smith

    Back 3
    James Dargaville
    Henry Speight
    Aidan Toua

    Unknown 2017 Status
    Robbie Abel (EPS) (Hooker)
    Michael Wells (EPS) (Loose Forward)
    Michael Dowsett (Halfback)
    Jordon Jackson-Hope (Centre) (Development Squad)
    Nigel Ah Wong (Back 3)
    Robbie Coleman (Back 3)
    Lausii Taliauli (Back 3)

    This list to be edited and updated once more information comes in from crowdsourcing below.

    Edit: Aidan Toua signed a 2 year deal
    Edit: Updated to 18 July 2016
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  3. RoffsChoice Peter Fenwicke (45)

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  5. Brumby Runner David Codey (61)

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    Who might come out of this year's U20s? Sione and Lomax at prop, Jackson-Hope in the centres? Is Jamie Kotz still a bit too young or green? Others?
  6. Seb V Peter Sullivan (51)

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    I'm happy Butler will fill in nicely at 7 for Poey. A strong running 8 would be great.

    But I'd most like a strong inside centre and a fullback. Godwin from the Force would be the best - I think a player like that who showed promise but hasn't quite got there in the last few years would excel in the Brumbies set-up.
  7. RoffsChoice Peter Fenwicke (45)

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    I can accept Butler at 7; he's good there because he's a good player, not because he's a good 7. The Bulls game this week was very much a "remember that I am an 8" performance. I'd really prefer we get a mercenary to come and be a specialist 7 for us over one year (the dream is another George Smith season). John Barclay might be off contract, he could be good.

    Dargaville is looking a lot like McCabe in his early days, so if Larkham decides to use him at 12 or 15, it could pay off. I think Godwin is off contract as well, and it can't hurt to say "want to come and be taught by the best back in Australian history?" in the contract negotiations.
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  8. RoffsChoice Peter Fenwicke (45)

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    Lomax was still behind Makin in last year's NRC, and with Sio, Alaalatoa, and Anae, I doubt Sione will get a look in.
    With Toomua leaving, Jackson-Hope is a chance.
  9. Brumby Runner David Codey (61)

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    Brumbies seem to like having three THPs in the squad - Alexander, Smith and Makin this year. They might still all be available next year, but if say Benny A isn't around, then I'd think Lomax would be a good chance to come in, behind Smith and Makin, no argument.

    Have to say I've not been impressed with Albert Anae in the games I've seen him play, and he seems to play hooker as much or more than LHP.

    I think we also need a proper 7 while Poey is away. Maybe either of Killingworth or Perry if they're available? Keep Butler at 8 or as reserve.
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  10. RoffsChoice Peter Fenwicke (45)

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    Agree with everything you say, Runner. Given the NRC backrow was Smiler-Butler-Vaea, it's not as if Perry would be new to the team. Killingworth would be good, as would Baldwin, but it will be hard to negotiate with them knowing that Pocock will be back the following season.
  11. Micheal Arch Winning (36)

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    I don't think so. Any of them would be absolutely frothing at the mouth to get an opportunity where they could be the 1st choice 7 at a Super franchise for an entire season.
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  13. mst Peter Fenwicke (45)

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    DHP from the Force?
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  14. Micheal Arch Winning (36)

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    Leave him alone! They need all the help they can get! That goes for Godwin too!

    With a full strength team the Force can actually be competitive. Lets leave it that way.

    Look inside your own development channels.
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  15. Forcefield Desmond Connor (43)

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    What he said.

    While you are at it, we'll have Jooste back too.
  16. mst Peter Fenwicke (45)

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    I think you will get him back and in better condition then when he left - but you will have to be patient. :)
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  17. RoffsChoice Peter Fenwicke (45)

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    He's on the bench for the Rebels game!
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  18. mst Peter Fenwicke (45)

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    ^^^fingers crossed he gets on the field he goes well.
  19. Brumby Runner David Codey (61)

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    :). But I meant for the 2017 season. I really thought Jooste might make the bench before J-H although he is somewhat younger.
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  20. mst Peter Fenwicke (45)

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    I think its more about the positions. JJH being a 12 in Burnie's eyes, Jooste being more of a 10.

    Also, the injury Jooste has just come off (osteo pubis) may also be a factor considering the U20's opportunity coming soon. Not worth risking him yet.

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