Discussion in 'Politics' started by Scarfman, Jun 22, 2012.
What do you mean by prosperity?
Do you think economic growth, without anything else, is enough for this?
That old leading question.
What do you think is the best path to prosperity for society?
There is no "ONE" path. It requires balance.
And if you were to make a list of the most important factors in acheiving prosperity for all. What do you think would be at the top of the list?
Fairness, and a reliable legal system to ensure it.
Base word is prosper which means: To be fortunate or successful, especially in terms of one's finances; thrive.
What is it that you mean by prosperity?
thrive - flourish - succeed
To be happy. That is what it all comes down to.
Agreed a reliable legal system is essential for a society to provide "fairness", but would you say that was the most important thing in helping people "thrive, flourish, succeed."
And when you talk about fairness do you think fairness is giving the most possible to everyone, or taking from those with the most to give to those with the least?
Fairness = equality of opportunity
Fairness does not equal equality of result. That is 'reverse fairness'!
a) Yes - Equal protection of Law is cornerstone of fair society.
b) Neither of those. A fair society benefits everyone equally.
And do you agree that all the other things, fairness, equality, legal system etc should work so as to maximise happiness?
No - That would just give everyone heroin.
Yes, but again my definition of equality might differ from yours.
What do you mean by happiness?
Get to the point please. My definition of happiness is the same as everyone else's.
Scotty there are academics who argue about what happiness is and how to measure it so it's not an unreasonable question. It's actually something that is worth thinking about as well.
The point I'm getting to is that economic growth isn't, alone, a rational goal. Joe Mac wants us to push towards prosperity but won't commit to what that means. You said its all about happiness. Academics have mapped the relationship between economic growth and happiness and happiness does not increase as income rises. See here for the most recent paper on this http://www.pnas.org/content/107/52/22463.full.
So, on that basis, what is the purpose of economic growth?
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