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[Dismal Pillock]

2025 Annual Global Rona Report

• The US has now lost 12% of all its citizens when compared to the nations 2019 population census.
• Large battalions of left and rightwing "volunteer" militia clash on a daily basis as they "patrol" the US streets. Their numbers are rife with unidentified members of police and armed forces. President Donald Trump Jr, elected despite numerous counted votes for Democratic Candidate Harris "going missing", largely turns a blind eye to the daily battles and, in fact, has been rumoured to ride along on the rightwing factions "night sweeps" of black neighbourhoods.
• The number of recognised Corona virus variants worldwide has now reached 158. The common cold has over 200 variants.
• The world's economy has shrunk by 66% when compared to 2019. Most of this is due to the drastic decrease in global tourism. (Chinese passport holders have been barred from entering 232 countries worldwide)
• New Zealand has not had a single reported Corona case since 2022. The tourism industry however has shrunk by 98% when compared to 2019. Most of the small nations economy is reliant on the extremely financially lucrative local rugby competition which has become the only remaining rugby competition in the world and boasts the only paying spectators and all of the world's best players.

 

[waiopehu oldboy]

Somewhat inevitably, after just over two months with no community transmission, a Northland woman recently returned from Europe has tested positive five days after leaving MIQ & having tested negative on day 12 of her 14-day isolation. At this point they're just doing the track & trace process for the 30-odd places she's visited while contagious. No effect on our Levels yet but I don't think it would take more than two or three more infections for Northland to go into some form of lockdown.

 

[Dismal Pillock]

a Northland woman recently returned from Europe has tested positive

Maybe she was rushing back in a frantic panic to try and stop Rene Ranger from signing with the Cantabs.

If so, I FORGIVE HER.

 

[boyo]

It's interesting that many countries (esp. those with right-wing governments, e.g. Australia, the U.K., the U.S.A., etc.) have been slow to deal with C.V. It's seems that such countries' first instinct is to protect its economy rather than its people. The primary task of any government is to protect its people.
Dead people don't produce goods or services, nor do they consume goods and/or services.
No people = no economy.

Dealing with pandemics requires preparation (the rule of six P's).

https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=2&v=pBVAnaHxHbM&feature=emb_logo

Time to revisit this

The usual suspects will try to defend the indefensible, including deflection, whataboutery, etc. (it's a sure bet ).

The U.K. has 100000+ deaths, whereas Taiwan has 7 deaths.

Right-wing governments will always protect the party and the leader at all costs before the population. They don't want to upset their voters, and will look after their donors. They seem to believe that they are the natural party of government (true arrogance). They will never truly apologise for their actions or inactions (they will proffer only faux apologies).

Inevitable pile-in in 3, 2, 1

 

[waiopehu oldboy]

Two more positives from people who've recently completed MIQ at the same facility as the Northland woman. They're not calling it community transmission yet but you've gotta wonder how many more cases it'll take before they do.

I see ScoMo has suspended the (one-way-only) travel bubble which doesn't bode well for it becoming reciprocal in the near future. Jacinda has speculated that our borders will remain closed to non-returnees for at least the rest of 2021 & we're not due to get a vax shipment until early March so sorry snow bunnies it looks like Thredbo not Turoa again this year.

Edit: the MIQ is now being emptied (i.e. no new arrivals being sent there) while they work out how the three people got infected. Prime suspect is aircon but surface contamination also being investigated.

 

[Rob42]

Two more positives from people who've recently completed MIQ at the same facility as the Northland woman. They're not calling it community transmission yet but you've gotta wonder how many more cases it'll take before they do.

I see ScoMo has suspended the (one-way-only) travel bubble which doesn't bode well for it becoming reciprocal in the near future. Jacinda has speculated that our borders will remain closed to non-returnees for at least the rest of 2021 & we're not due to get a vax shipment until early March so sorry snow bunnies it looks like Thredbo not Turoa again this year.

Edit: the MIQ is now being emptied (i.e. no new arrivals being sent there) while they work out how the three people got infected. Prime suspect is aircon but surface contamination also being investigated.

W OB, is NZ finding it difficult to repatriate expats, due to quarantine capacity? There's quite a bit in the media here about Australians stuck overseas for months and months. Mind you, it might be a bit of a beatup as I've had a few friends and colleagues who've been able to make it back within 1-2 months.

 

[formerflanker]

NZ are allowing people into Auckland as long as they are on super yachts wanting to watch the America's Cup and agree to spend $50,000 at Auckland marinas.
Plenty of examples there of visitors allowed to enter NZ, as well as the teams from each of the 3 challengers.

 

[waiopehu oldboy]

W OB, is NZ finding it difficult to repatriate expats, due to quarantine capacity? There's quite a bit in the media here about Australians stuck overseas for months and months. Mind you, it might be a bit of a beatup as I've had a few friends and colleagues who've been able to make it back within 1-2 months.

There's a booking system, not sure what the lead-time is currently but that will obviously be impacted if the Pullman stays shut for any length of time. Also a % of capacity is kept spare for emergencies, people having to isolate for longer than the standard 14 days & so on. There's grumbles from expats who think they should be getting back in quicker but as has been noted many, many times they've now had almost a year to do so & it's only in the last six months or so that you've had to pre-book your MIQ.

 

[waiopehu oldboy]

NZ are allowing people into Auckland as long as they are on super yachts wanting to watch the America's Cup and agree to spend $50,000 at Auckland marinas.
Plenty of examples there of visitors allowed to enter NZ, as well as the teams from each of the 3 challengers.

Not sure where you got that first bit from, all I'm hearing from Auckland Chamber of Commerce, Hospitality Ass'n etc. is that Gov needs to loosen the rules to allow more foreigners in & with fewer restrictions. Wasn't gonna happen pre- the new Covid variants & sure as shit ain't gonna happen now they've arrived at the border.

As to the second part non- returning expats can apply to be allowed in e.g. for business, on compassionate grounds etc but they still have to isolate. Similar to what's happening in Aus from what I can gather.

 

[Dctarget]

W OB, is NZ finding it difficult to repatriate expats, due to quarantine capacity? There's quite a bit in the media here about Australians stuck overseas for months and months. Mind you, it might be a bit of a beatup as I've had a few friends and colleagues who've been able to make it back within 1-2 months.

I'm hoping it's all a beat up too :| I'm getting a bit sick of European winter, wouldn't mind coming back home in the next few months so hopefully it's easier done than people say.

 

[fatprop]

W OB, is NZ finding it difficult to repatriate expats, due to quarantine capacity? There's quite a bit in the media here about Australians stuck overseas for months and months. Mind you, it might be a bit of a beatup as I've had a few friends and colleagues who've been able to make it back within 1-2 months.

It is down to the limits put on flights coming in, they are coming in with bugger all passengers

My uncle also hasn't been able to leave for months and return to his home in Bali, he has been refused the right to leave the country

 

[Braveheart81]

There's quite a bit in the media here about Australians stuck overseas for months and months. Mind you, it might be a bit of a beatup as I've had a few friends and colleagues who've been able to make it back within 1-2 months.

It's a combination of flight capacity and hotel quarantine capacity. It also depends where you're coming from and what the demand is like from there.

Then there's the issue with airlines and the willingness to bump someone who had a ticket because someone else is willing to buy a business class or first class ticket.

There isn't really a queue so it can be very hard for some, particularly when they're coming from a location that doesn't have a regular direct flight.

 

[fatprop]

I thought this was interesting, this has been the continual issue, but like Aus, the approach has not focussed on protecting the at risk

 

[Brumby Runner]

Even putting the at risk results aside, the daily death rate for U65s of upwards of 100 seems to compare unfavorably with the management of the virus here.

 

[fatprop]

Even putting the at risk results aside, the daily death rate for U65s of upwards of 100 seems to compare unfavorably with the management of the virus here.

We are an island at the arse end of the world with locked borders, they are a major international hub at the centre of the world

But there are lesson we can learn, our support of the at risk has been laughable, governments have only really added more bureaucracy and compliance reporting. We allowed contractors to work multiple jobs and cross pollinate

We now that Vit D is really important, but where is the programs to provide supplements etc etc

We have also learned that the virus attacks those with multiple comorbidities but discussion of active approaches to improve individual health or weight loss is ignored or worse deemed shaming. Not going to solve every problem, but relevant for many

 

[Rob42]

We are an island at the arse end of the world with locked borders, they are a major international hub at the centre of the world

But there are lesson we can learn, our support of the at risk has been laughable, governments have only really added more bureaucracy and compliance reporting. We allowed contractors to work multiple jobs and cross pollinate

We now that Vit D is really important, but where is the programs to provide supplements etc etc

We have also learned that the virus attacks those with multiple comorbidities but discussion of active approaches to improve individual health or weight loss is ignored or worse deemed shaming. Not going to solve every problem, but relevant for many

Huh? Keeping the virus essentially out of the country has been pretty beneficial for the at-risk population. And would we really propose to supplement Vitamin D in Australia in summer? Maybe a few people around Hobart would be deficient, that'd be about all. And there's lots of programs encouraging people to address weight loss, healthy lifestyle, etc - that's useful for every disease.

 

[fatprop]

Huh? Keeping the virus essentially out of the country has been pretty beneficial for the at-risk population. And would we really propose to supplement Vitamin D in Australia in summer? Maybe a few people around Hobart would be deficient, that'd be about all. And there's lots of programs encouraging people to address weight loss, healthy lifestyle, etc - that's useful for every disease.

We have elderly locked in nursing homes who don't get out, and the elderly can be deficient anyway because it is often not processed as well

 

[waiopehu oldboy]

W OB, is NZ finding it difficult to repatriate expats, due to quarantine capacity? There's quite a bit in the media here about Australians stuck overseas for months and months. Mind you, it might be a bit of a beatup as I've had a few friends and colleagues who've been able to make it back within 1-2 months.

Wait time now seems to be three months or thereabouts, been a coupla high-profile cases recently where people had to either get back by late Jan/ early Feb or wait until May.

 

[Dismal Pillock]

The Real Olympic Medal Table, baby!

Most Deaths Per Capita:

1 Belgium
2 Slovenia
3 United Kingdom
4 Czech
5 Italy
6 Bosnia and Herzegovina
7 Portugal
8 USA
9 North Macedonia
10 Hungary

Poms are surging hard. Ready to put those deadly Belgits back in their place.

Disappointing work from the seppos. Only 8th. Need to up the ante with a renewed focus on the task at hand, that being, death.

 

[Teh Other Dave]

The Real Olympic Medal Table, baby!

Most Deaths Per Capita:

1 Belgium
2 Slovenia
3 United Kingdom
4 Czech
5 Italy
6 Bosnia and Herzegovina
7 Portugal
8 USA
9 North Macedonia
10 Hungary

Poms are surging hard. Ready to put those deadly Belgits back in their place.

Disappointing work from the seppos. Only 8th. Need to up the ante with a renewed focus on the task at hand, that being, death.

Belgium probably the only country to come close to properly reporting mortality from Covid-19