Cricket World Cup
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waiopehu oldboy
Stirling Mortlock (74)
Miller gone. They fucked.
Strewthcobber
Mark Ella (57)
Poor South Africa, even in a pretty much meaningless pool game against a tough opponent who have a good day without ever being in a winning position they still get called chokers if they lose
Once you get the label it's impossible to shake
(Unless you win I guess)
Once you get the label it's impossible to shake
(Unless you win I guess)
waiopehu oldboy
Stirling Mortlock (74)
169/9 chasing 308 on a big ground with their batting list, I'd call that a choke, but who knows, maybe it's the battle they needed to lose in order to win the war. Or a flat-out choke. Either way, they lost.
The_Brown_Hornet
John Eales (66)
The issue that the Saffers have is that De Villiers, Amla and Steyn all need to fire at the same time if they are to win. If they don't then then they're rooted.
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Peter Fenwicke (45)
I know De Villiers was rested for the trial game against the Kiwi's, but ever since that result I had a feeling they weren't going to be a serious threat in the cup. The match against Zimbabwe confirmed my suspicions.
They really set the tone in the field early when Amla dropped Dhawan and then they missed a fairly simple runout opportunity a few overs later. Unfortunately they then lost Philander and from that moment, the Indians were on top. Parnell's statistics tell the story.
As for the batting, to be bowled out for 177 on that batting surface against an Indian bowling attack that has struggled all summer is embarrassing IMO. They rely far too heavily on Amla, De Villiers and Du Plessis...I have no idea how De Kock is considered in their best XI.
Then again, credit to India for a great performance. Dhawan and Rahane were superb and the bowlers backed it up.
I'm not writing the Proteas off just yet, but considering the loss of Philander and the beating they took to a pretty average Indian side, I can't see how they will bounce back from this.
They really set the tone in the field early when Amla dropped Dhawan and then they missed a fairly simple runout opportunity a few overs later. Unfortunately they then lost Philander and from that moment, the Indians were on top. Parnell's statistics tell the story.
As for the batting, to be bowled out for 177 on that batting surface against an Indian bowling attack that has struggled all summer is embarrassing IMO. They rely far too heavily on Amla, De Villiers and Du Plessis...I have no idea how De Kock is considered in their best XI.
Then again, credit to India for a great performance. Dhawan and Rahane were superb and the bowlers backed it up.
I'm not writing the Proteas off just yet, but considering the loss of Philander and the beating they took to a pretty average Indian side, I can't see how they will bounce back from this.
Strewthcobber
Mark Ella (57)
Is there any situation they could lose without it being a choke?
Anyway looks like India will be very tough to beat at the MCG. The pitch suits them there more than any other this tournament.
If they go on to top the group, which they should from here, its a Wellington quarter I think
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Peter Fenwicke (45)
If that's the case they will be playing NZ.
Group B may throw another surprise or two up. The fourth qualifying spot between Zimbabwe, Ireland, Pakistan and the Afghanistan should be interesting.
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Peter Fenwicke (45)
I'm confused.
ESPN says the quarter final draw will be A1 v B4, A2 v B3, A3 v B2 and B1 v A4.. that seems pretty logical.
Then the ICC fixtures state that if NZ qualify they will play in Wellington, if Aus qualify we play at the Adelaide oval, if Eng qualify they play at MCG and if Sri Lanka qualify they will play at SCG.
That doesn't make sense because either NZ or AUS will finish as A1 and yet quarter final 1 is at the SCG and has to have Sri Lanka (A3 or A4) playing. It could also means NZ end up playing the top seed from group B.
Can anyone explain?
ESPN says the quarter final draw will be A1 v B4, A2 v B3, A3 v B2 and B1 v A4.. that seems pretty logical.
Then the ICC fixtures state that if NZ qualify they will play in Wellington, if Aus qualify we play at the Adelaide oval, if Eng qualify they play at MCG and if Sri Lanka qualify they will play at SCG.
That doesn't make sense because either NZ or AUS will finish as A1 and yet quarter final 1 is at the SCG and has to have Sri Lanka (A3 or A4) playing. It could also means NZ end up playing the top seed from group B.
Can anyone explain?
PaarlBok
Rod McCall (65)
If the Black Caps end up playing India, they will move the game to India.
Tangawizi
Peter Fenwicke (45)
All the teams who "must" play someone are in Pool A. But just because match is labeled Qtr Final 1, doesn't mean team A1 will play in it.
So just say top 4 in Pool A is NZ, AUS, SRI, ENG and Pool B finishes IND, SA, WI, PAK you'd have Qtr Finals of SRI v SA in Sydney, ENG v IND at the MCG, AUS v WI in Adelaide & NZ v PAK in Wellington.
Predicting the Eden Park hoodoo for Australian teams to be broken this weekend.
Roll on the Bledisloe.
Roll on the Bledisloe.
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Peter Fenwicke (45)
Saving my prediction until we have an idea of the teams, the pitch, and IMO, more importantly the toss.
Fingers crossed we bowl first because I worry that if they get it swinging early we have alot of vulnerable players in our top order. Then again if Warner and Finch get us off to a flyer we could easily post 300+ if our lower order blokes have a license to hit.
Not sure if we can rely on Maxwell, Marsh, and Haddin to pick up the pieces against a confident Kiwi attack especially if they are in early.
I reckon it's a 50/50 bet either way right now.
Fingers crossed we bowl first because I worry that if they get it swinging early we have alot of vulnerable players in our top order. Then again if Warner and Finch get us off to a flyer we could easily post 300+ if our lower order blokes have a license to hit.
Not sure if we can rely on Maxwell, Marsh, and Haddin to pick up the pieces against a confident Kiwi attack especially if they are in early.
I reckon it's a 50/50 bet either way right now.
The may well perform on a green wicket and slow outfield, but when was the last time they faced genuine pace on a lively wicket with plenty of bounce and a lightning quick outfield on a 35 degree Melbourne day in front of a sell out crowd of 100000?
I'm a little concerned that the Eden Park Hoodoo may strike on Saturday, but if the Kiwis make the final at the G, the Mitchell's (Stark and Johnson) will rip into them with the same vigour as a single RAN Sailor returning from a 6 month operational deployment to the Arabian Gulf rips into the bars of Kings Cross.
When was the last time the Kiwis faced a genuine intimidatory pace attack on a fast wicket?
I'm a little concerned that the Eden Park Hoodoo may strike on Saturday, but if the Kiwis make the final at the G, the Mitchell's (Stark and Johnson) will rip into them with the same vigour as a single RAN Sailor returning from a 6 month operational deployment to the Arabian Gulf rips into the bars of Kings Cross.
When was the last time the Kiwis faced a genuine intimidatory pace attack on a fast wicket?
waiopehu oldboy
Stirling Mortlock (74)
^^^^^ probably last time we went to Sethfricka......
Meanwhile Ireland are getting their asses handed to them by UAE, 102/4 & need 177 at almost 8-an-over.
Meanwhile Ireland are getting their asses handed to them by UAE, 102/4 & need 177 at almost 8-an-over.
waiopehu oldboy
Stirling Mortlock (74)
Ireland in deep shite now, Kevin O really is their last hope at 171/5 & needing 104 off 66.
^^^^^ didn't see the UAE innings, had to drop wifey off at the airport - she's in NZ for her big bro's 50th so yours truly is undisputed King of the remote on Saturday AND it's my "off" weekend, couldn't have planned it better if I tried
EDIT: KOB going for it, had a slice of luck when the UAE sub fielder almost pulled off a Dipak Patel WACA-miracle catch, Wilson playing the support role (but still has 53 off 55), crowd going off too. 60 needed off 42.
^^^^^ didn't see the UAE innings, had to drop wifey off at the airport - she's in NZ for her big bro's 50th so yours truly is undisputed King of the remote on Saturday AND it's my "off" weekend, couldn't have planned it better if I tried
EDIT: KOB going for it, had a slice of luck when the UAE sub fielder almost pulled off a Dipak Patel WACA-miracle catch, Wilson playing the support role (but still has 53 off 55), crowd going off too. 60 needed off 42.
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