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Federal Coalition Government 2013-?

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Braveheart81

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Will Genia (78)
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July unemployment at 6.4%. The highest since 2002.

In less than a year of the LNP being in government the unemployment rate has risen from 5.7% to 6.4%.

Quite amazing.

Participation rates haven't changed.
 
TahDan

TahDan

Cyril Towers (30)
Runner said:
Doesn't this refer to the period before the last election?
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It does, but it also says this:

"Immigration Department insiders have warned that investigation failures are set to worsen with the merger of the Immigration and Customs departments into a ''border force'' in 2015 because of corresponding budget cuts, and uncertainty as the new agency ''finds its feet''."
 
Blue

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Andrew Slack (58)
Braveheart81 said:
July unemployment at 6.4%. The highest since 2002.

In less than a year of the LNP being in government the unemployment rate has risen from 5.7% to 6.4%.

Quite amazing.

Participation rates haven't changed.
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Finally, Labour's budget mismanagement chooks are coming home to roost.

:p

Serious question though, I read somewhere that the agency who reports this stuff recently changed their numbers and are including people who work less than a certain number of casual hours per week whereas until recently they were considered to actually have a job which they don't.

Reporting under labour was severely criticized for actually leaving out people who have a casual job but are still looking for a permanent one.

Either way I think these figures need to be taken with a pinch of salt.
 
Blue

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Andrew Slack (58)
Braveheart81 said:
Sorry to hark back to it, but this is a really good piece about the Le Lievre cartoon published by Fairfax and the Bill Leak cartoon published by The Australian.

http://www.crikey.com.au/2014/08/05...sm-of-anti-semitic-and-islamophobic-cartoons/

Very balanced and explains the issue well.
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Good piece I agree. Issue is that Jews will always be more sensitive about anything that looks even remotely antisemitic than other people might think they should be.

It's only natural.

"is just as wrong when it happens to Muslims as to Jews. And yet in reference to Islam, it generally passes without comment."

Maybe in Australia but not in Europe I can tell you that.
 
Runner

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Nev Cottrell (35)
TahDan said:
It does, but it also says this:

"Immigration Department insiders have warned that investigation failures are set to worsen with the merger of the Immigration and Customs departments into a ''border force'' in 2015 because of corresponding budget cuts, and uncertainty as the new agency ''finds its feet''."
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So no proof just an assumption.
 
Braveheart81

Braveheart81

Will Genia (78)
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Blue said:
Finally, Labour's budget mismanagement chooks are coming home to roost.

:p

Serious question though, I read somewhere that the agency who reports this stuff recently changed their numbers and are including people who work less than a certain number of casual hours per week whereas until recently they were considered to actually have a job which they don't.

Reporting under labour was severely criticized for actually leaving out people who have a casual job but are still looking for a permanent one.

Either way I think these figures need to be taken with a pinch of salt.
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No. There have been no changes in the definitions used.The methodologies are all clearly stated on the ABS website and come from the international definitions.

Employed, underemployed, unemployed etc. are all reported by the Australian Bureau of Statistics which is a non-partisan organisation.

http://www.abs.gov.au/ausstats/abs@.nsf/Latestproducts/F714CB617DE0D662CA2572C100244B9A?opendocument
 
TahDan

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Cyril Towers (30)
True, the definitions for "employed" are based on a now outdated view of how employment and the economy operates, but they're archaic because they've been static for decades, not because Labor suddenly changed them.
 
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Nev Cottrell (35)
TahDan said:
True, the definitions for "employed" are based on a now outdated view of how employment and the economy operates, but they're archaic because they've been static for decades, not because Labor suddenly changed them.
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Keating did change the definition of full time unemployment when we was treasurer. He also placed dole age restricts to keeps kids at school and off the numbers.
 
Braveheart81

Braveheart81

Will Genia (78)
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Keating did change the definition of full time unemployment when we was treasurer. He also placed dole age restricts to keeps kids at school and off the numbers.
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Not in terms of what the ABS uses. Their definitions and methodoligies are not even Australian specific.
 
Blue

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Andrew Slack (58)
Braveheart81 said:
No. There have been no changes in the definitions used.The methodologies are all clearly stated on the ABS website and come from the international definitions.

Employed, underemployed, unemployed etc. are all reported by the Australian Bureau of Statistics which is a non-partisan organisation.

http://www.abs.gov.au/ausstats/abs@.nsf/Latestproducts/F714CB617DE0D662CA2572C100244B9A?opendocument
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Yes.

And those have been changed from what I understand. The tightened up the definition of "jobless" to actually means that - jobless.
 
Braveheart81

Braveheart81

Will Genia (78)
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Blue said:
Yes.

And those have been changed from what I understand. The tightened up the definition of "jobless" to actually means that - jobless.
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I'd be interested to see that if you can find it but until then I don't think that's the case.
 
Blue

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Andrew Slack (58)
There was a lot about it in the Australian last year which probably means that you would call it bullshit. :)
 
Ruggo

Ruggo

Mark Ella (57)
Braveheart81 said:
What a surprise!

Who would have ever thought that the people we really should be stopping coming to the country are arriving by plane with falsified documents.

Many billions of dollars spent to punish and torture vulnerable refugees for the sake of political pointscoring whilst knowingly allowing anyone to fly in on commercial flights with falsified documents.
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Chalk one up for "Team Australia".
 
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