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Paul McLean (56)
Yes - I'd love to know the whats / hows / whys the players finished their schooling within the Private School System?
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George Gregan (70)
It would be interesting to see if there is a correlation to particular school teams having a good period X years ago, and whether there is anything to be learned from that.
We had a period there for a while where it seemed we were signing "the next big thing" and those guys, coming up against grown men, didn't enjoy necessarily the same freedom. The last few years, experience counts - Fardy is a great example. Not even necessarily through a standard club setup but showing the right attributes and proved his worth.
Wonder how many of those blokes gone to Europe would be similarly hardened by their experiences? A lot of it will be down to individual personalities, and whether they can adapt back to the training and speed of game required down here.
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Mark Ella (57)
I'll miss some but from Queensland GPS
Genia, Pocock, Moore, Simmons, QC (Quade Cooper), To'omua, Tomane, Slipper,
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Greg Holmes went to Downlands so would have played against the GPS schools.
That's a fair point Nick. The two prominent teams to produce professionals in the Sydney GPS in my time were the Kings era of 2001-2002 (Benn Robinson, Dean Mumm, Daniel Halangahu, Will Caldwell, Ben Hand, James Hilgendorf, and more I've forgotten), and Joeys in 2006 (Paddy Ryan, Kurtley Beale, Peter Betham, Zipa Taumopeau).
Worth noting that this would be easily the lowest GPS representation in any of the RWC squads so far.
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Worth noting that this would be easily the lowest GPS representation in any of the RWC squads so far.
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NSW CHS- 7
QLD GPS- 9
NSW AAGPS- 4
NZ- 3
NSW CAS- 2
NSW ISA – 2
QLD AIC- 1
QLD Public Schools- 2
ACT JRU- 1
Included Greg Holmes in QLD GPS on basis of Downlands fixtures.
Private Schools- 21
Public Schools- 10 (incl. Matt To'omua from Brisbane State)
NSW- 15
QLD- 12
ACT-1
NZ- 3
QLD GPS- 9
NSW AAGPS- 4
NZ- 3
NSW CAS- 2
NSW ISA – 2
QLD AIC- 1
QLD Public Schools- 2
ACT JRU- 1
Included Greg Holmes in QLD GPS on basis of Downlands fixtures.
Private Schools- 21
Public Schools- 10 (incl. Matt To'omua from Brisbane State)
NSW- 15
QLD- 12
ACT-1
NZ- 3
Inside Shoulder
Nathan Sharpe (72)
Didnt Tony Melrose make oz schools from grade.
blindsider
Billy Sheehan (19)
Brendan Williams only made the side after he was playing for randwick colts while still at school.
He was attending Cleveland St high at the time & we (randwick colts) had a trial game against the Australian school boys side/squad in 1995 and Brendan scored 4 tries against them.
Once they realized he was also still attending high school, boom, straight in the next week.
Freak schoolboy and colts footy player. I was lucky enough to play a year of colts with him. Amazing talent.
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Teh Other Dave
Alan Cameron (40)
That was often the case in the amateur era, when senior rep teams were picked on club form and put through trials.
Teh Other Dave
Alan Cameron (40)
The 1999 world cup squad had very few Sydney/Brisbane GPS representation, if I recall correctly.
Inside Shoulder
Nathan Sharpe (72)
Yeah good call, but had one more than 2015 of Sydney GPS. Off the top of my head I spotted Matt Burke (Joeys), Chris Whitaker (High), Phil Kearns (Newington) and Tom Bowman (Scots).
Hookers
Stephen Moore - Brisbane Grammar School - QLD GPS
Tatafu Polota-Nau - Granville South High School - NSW CHS - 2002/03 Schoolboy
James Hanson St Joseph's Gregory Terrace - QLD GPS - 2005 Schoolboy
Props
Greg Holmes - Downlands College - QLD
Sekope Kepu - Wesley College - NZ
Scott Sio - Trinity Grammar School - NSW CAS - 2009 Schoolboy
James Slipper - The Southport School - QLD GPS - 2005 Schoolboy
Toby Smith - Hamilton Boys' High School - NZ
Locks
Kane Douglas - Maclean High School - NSW CHS
Dean Mumm - The Kings School - AAGPS - 2002 Schoolboy
Rob Simmons - The Southport School - QLD GPS - 2006 Schoolboy
Will Skelton - Hills Sports High School - NSW CHS
Sam Carter - The Scots College - AAGPS
Backrow forwards
Scott Fardy - Barrenjoey High School - NSW CHS
Michael Hooper - St Pius X College - NSW ISA - 2008 Schoolboy A
Ben McCalman - Kinross Wolaroi School - NSW ISA - 2006 Schoolboy
Sean McMahon - St Joseph's College, Nudgee - QLD GPS - 2011 Schoolboy
Wycliff Palu - Balgowlah Boys High School - NSW CHS
David Pocock - Anglican Church Grammar School - QLD GPS - 2005 Schoolboy
Scrumhalves
Will Genia - Brisbane Boys' College - QLD GPS - 2005 Schoolboy A
Nick Phipps - The Kings School - AAGPS
Flyhalves
Quade Cooper - Anglican Church Grammar School - QLD GPS - 2005/6 Schoolboy
Bernard Foley - St Aloysius College - NSW CAS
Inside backs
Kurtley Beale - St Joseph's College Hunters Hill - AAGPS- 2005/6 Schoolboy
Matt Giteau - St Edmunds College, Canberra - ACTJRU - 2000 Schoolboy A
Matt To'omua - Brisbane State High School - QLD GPS - 2007 Schoolboy
Outside backs
Adam Ashley-Cooper - Berkeley Vale High School - NSW CHS
Israel Folau - Marsden State High School - QLD CSS - 2006 Mungo Schoolboy
Rob Horne - Georges River College - NSW CHS - 2006/7 Schoolboy
Drew Mitchell - St Patrick's College, Shorncliffe - QLD AIC - 2001 Schoolboy
Henry Speight - Hamilton Boys High School - NZ
Joe Tomane - St Joseph's College, Nudgee - QLD GPS - 2007 Schoolboy
Tevita Kuridrani - Corinda State High School - QLD CSS
Also at RWC15 for other countries
Fiji - Ben Volavola - Newington College - AAGPS
Fiji - Nemani Nadolo - St Joseph's College, Nudgee - QLD GPS (as Ratu Nasiganiyavi)
Japan - Craig Wing - Sydney Boys’ High School - AAGPS - 1997 Schoolboy
NSW CHS - 7
NSW AAGPS - 4 (+ 2 Other Nations)
NSW CAS - 2
NSW ISA – 2
QLD GPS - 10 (+ 1 Other Nations)
QLD CSS - 2
QLD Other - 1
QLD AIC- 1
ACT JRU- 1
NZ - 3
Private Schools - 21 (+2)
Public Schools - 12 (+1)
NSW - 15 (+2)
QLD - 14 (+1)
ACT - 1
NZ - 3
Former Aust Schoolboys - 15 (+1 Mungo) (+ 1 Other Nations)
Former Aust Schoolboys A - 3
Not ASRU Rep - 11 (+ 2 ON)
Not NZ Schoolboys Rep - 3
Mr Doug
Dick Tooth (41)
I assume Quade needs two more tests to reach the "magic 60"!
So let's say that two international "7s" games equals one test match.
Quade joins the Aussie 7s team for the Olympics, and 'hey presto', after 4 matches at the 2016 Olympics, he becomes eligible for future Test duties.
Problem solved!!
So let's say that two international "7s" games equals one test match.
Quade joins the Aussie 7s team for the Olympics, and 'hey presto', after 4 matches at the 2016 Olympics, he becomes eligible for future Test duties.
Problem solved!!
T
TOCC
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60 is an arbitrary number which will fluctuate depending on players form and the requirements of the coach....
blindsider
Billy Sheehan (19)
Interesting read mate. Thanks for posting.
I do still hate how players are identified by their senior schools in rugby. I'd Much prefer listing where they played their junior rugby, like in State of Origin previews. Gives a better account where they grew up - not where they got their scholarship in most cases.
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Inside Shoulder
Nathan Sharpe (72)
The NFL talk about which "school" they went to, and that would be almost invariably on a scholarship.
blindsider
Billy Sheehan (19)
Yeh they do, but personally I'd rather know where they played their junior club rugby!
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