1. Welcome to the Green and Gold Rugby forums. As you can see we've upgraded the forums to new software. Your old logon details should work, just click the 'Login' button in the top right.

Julia's Reign

Discussion in 'Politics' started by Scotty, Sep 14, 2010.

  1. Done that Ron Walden (29)

    Likes Received:
    284
    It was all about self interest yesterday, by all involved, & has been for some time.
    The leaks from his faction to the media , since his dethronement , are clearly all about self interest, & designed to reflect badly on Julia, but he's been outmaneuvered.
    Rudd will no longer be of any political relevance as a future PM.
  2. Inside Shoulder Nathan Sharpe (72)

    Likes Received:
    9,495
    Yesterday was their chance. None had the balls.
    I still think Crean must have taken a calculated decision that he was going into no man's land with no cover for the good of the team. he has, I think, almost single handedly destroyed Rudd's legitimacy.
    gillard owes him one, whereas she seems to blame him.
    We are in Hindenburg territory now.
  3. Done that Ron Walden (29)

    Likes Received:
    284
    Rudd was unsure that he had enough support to give him a clear majority , but after negotiations with Crean , Rudd & his supporters believed that with the aid
    of Crean's supporters they would have the numbers.Unfortunately for Rudd , ( & Crean ) , Crean's supporters surprisingly , didn't get behind him.
    There is no way that Gillard can support Crean after his criticisms of her leadership yesterday.
  4. Rob42 Ron Walden (29)

    Likes Received:
    552
    Gillard had to sack Crean for saying that he would support Rudd in a ballot and nominate himself as deputy leader. But yes, Rudd's supporters must now have to accept that their man is bloody-minded beyond all reason. Mind you, it was only a year ago that we had the last ballot, so who knows how much more wreckage he can create in six months. Six long, long months.
  5. Inside Shoulder Nathan Sharpe (72)

    Likes Received:
    9,495
    Well that bloke Katter needs to pull his head in an vote with the other independents on a vote of no confidence in the government so we can avoid 6 months of this crap.
  6. Rob42 Ron Walden (29)

    Likes Received:
    552
    For just a moment, I thought a Rudd-Crean leadership could have legs, a kind of "unity" ticket. Perhaps with some more time for negotiation it could have been thrashed out. Though I doubt Rudd would have accepted Crean as his deputy - he would have earmarked that role for one of his long-term offsiders.
    Inside Shoulder likes this.
  7. Rob42 Ron Walden (29)

    Likes Received:
    552
    Wilkie was on the radio this morning saying he would continue to support the government in no-confidence motions except in the most extraordinary of circumstances. If that requirement wasn't met yesterday, I'm guessing we're stuck until September. I don't think the independents want to vote themselves out of a job either.
  8. Hugh Jarse Rocky Elsom (76)

    Likes Received:
    10,843
    So this is the Polar Ice Cap melting, not a spectacular flash in the pan event like a Zeppelin catching fire and blowing up in a matter of seconds.

    This is like one of the Channel 9 extra super slow mo replays of a catch at Gully in the Boxing Day Test. We know what the result is, and there is absolute clarity of all of the events leading up to the catch being taken which was captured at 1000 frames per second, but played back at 4 frames per second in perfect 1080 HD vision.
  9. Inside Shoulder Nathan Sharpe (72)

    Likes Received:
    9,495
    Bowen has resigned from the cabinet: http://www.smh.com.au/opinion/the-pulse-live/politics-live-march-22-2013-20130322-2gjkw.html

    Wilkie, of all of them, should be safe: I can see Oakeshott/Windsor shitting themselves about their re-election prospects and that would justify continuing to support the government.
  10. Inside Shoulder Nathan Sharpe (72)

    Likes Received:
    9,495
    Have you listened to the narration? It could have been written for what we're going through. People trapped in their fate unable to escape - or something like that.
  11. boyo Mark Ella (57)

    Likes Received:
    1,439
    Hugh, do the 9 network ever broadcast the cricket in HD?
  12. Hugh Jarse Rocky Elsom (76)

    Likes Received:
    10,843
    Boyo, at my age I should rejoice that I can actually see TV without Mr McGoo Coke Bottle Glasses. I thought that I'd slip in 1 reference to 1080 HD to sound like a tech head that knows what they are talking about.

    I really have no idea about channel 9. Apart from the Cricket and ABC Shute Shield rugby, there isn't too much that I watch on FTA. More than enough variety on Fox (christ knows I pay enough for it, so I might as well watch it).

    Those Ch Nein cricket super slow mo pictures do look pretty clear though, whatever format they are in.
  13. Inside Shoulder Nathan Sharpe (72)

    Likes Received:
    9,495
    Marn Ferguson (sorry about the 3 syllables in the surname) has resigned
  14. Hugh Jarse Rocky Elsom (76)

    Likes Received:
    10,843
    Isn't it Marn Fergsin, with 2 saying bits in the second name?
  15. Inside Shoulder Nathan Sharpe (72)

    Likes Received:
    9,495
    Thanks HJ I couldnt work out how to spell it.
    Kim Carr resigns.
  16. Braveheart81 Rocky Elsom (76)

    Likes Received:
    23,858
    The blood letting is continuing.

    It's like some sort of Masai tribal ritual.

    I don't think the Kevin Rudd thing is over. He knew he didn't have a clear majority yesterday and Crean had jumped the gun. If ministers continue falling on their swords you could very easily find the numbers are very much on Rudd's side in the next few weeks before parliament goes back.

    Rudd is holding a press conference at 4:15pm.
  17. Hugh Jarse Rocky Elsom (76)

    Likes Received:
    10,843
    Lemmings over the cliff.

    Will the numbers in the Ruddsters camp finally be revealed by ticking off all those who resign or get sacked?

    Hardly an indicator of a happy team unanimously behind the great and brilliant Leader.

    This from a Government that has the gall to call a few drug cheats almost being found out “The Darkest Day in Australian Sport”
  18. I like to watch Simon Poidevin (60)

    Likes Received:
    5,579
    It might well have been “The Darkest Day in Australian Sport” when that fool was appointed Minister for Sport.
    If she was smart she would say nothing, and people might only think she was stupid.
    Opening her mouth removes all doubt.
    London to a brick on, that she will have the gall to be front and centre at the SOO this year.
    it comes as no surprise that she is a senator.Accountable to no one.
  19. Inside Shoulder Nathan Sharpe (72)

    Likes Received:
    9,495
    I cant work out whether Joolia is tough or stupid. Who needs this shit in their life - even if it is their whole life?
  20. ACT Crusader Peter Johnson (47)

    Likes Received:
    1,822
    Sorry fellas, missed all the discussion over thelast 24 hours, been counting the numbers and they still don't add up :)

    What a bizarre couple of days

Share This Page