Proposed Nations Championship

[WorkingClassRugger]

Latest deadline 22 May and we know castle and co was in Europe discussing world league- wonder whether we will get an update

Be interesting to see. I'm hoping the most recent report was more of the same in regards to trying to disrupt the process and not what we will eventually see. It really should be 2 divisions of 12 teams with the 3rd divisions being made up of the existing regional championships with teams being promoted to cover for the teams from those regions that will feature in the 2nd division.

Relegation has been an issue but a simple solution to that in my opinion is to provide the same funding to both divisions. That's if it's really about the money like they are saying.

 

[waiopehu oldboy]

Latest deadline 22 May and we know castle and co was in Europe discussing world league- wonder whether we will get an update

https://i.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/i...ffer-to-get-global-tournament-across-the-line

TLDR: Fiji & Japan back in plus more cash for everyone (but no word as to how much more).

 

[WorkingClassRugger]

Apparently the offer on the table has gone up to £6.2b ($11.4B) with a guarantee of £377m ($694m) of funding annually.

 

[WorkingClassRugger]

https://i.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/i...ffer-to-get-global-tournament-across-the-line

TLDR: Fiji & Japan back in plus more cash for everyone (but no word as to how much more).

I suspect this was the 6N's play all along. Raise the stakes and therefore the cash.

 

[WorkingClassRugger]

Also, not directly related to WR (World Rugby) but a sign of the increasing PE interest in Rugby. CVC has had some preliminary discussions with Major League Rugby in the States.

 

[WorkingClassRugger]

https://i.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/i...ffer-to-get-global-tournament-across-the-line

TLDR: Fiji & Japan back in plus more cash for everyone (but no word as to how much more).

Happy to see both Fiji and Japan back. In terms of funding I suspect the T1 teams including the latter two will likely take up 50% of the $694m on offer annually. Potentially a little more.

 

[Derpus]

I feel like i'm missing something, but wasn't the major snag for the 6N's just relegation? The fuck would cutting Fiji and Japan do?

The funds being thrown about would easily cover any losses that are set to be made by RA.

 

[WorkingClassRugger]

I feel like i'm missing something, but wasn't the major snag for the 6N's just relegation? The fuck would cutting Fiji and Japan do?

The funds being thrown about would easily cover any losses that are set to be made by RA.

No idea but according to the articles the cutting of Fiji and Japan has been rejected. So they should feature.

 

[waiopehu oldboy]

I feel like i'm missing something, but wasn't the major snag for the 6N's just relegation? The fuck would cutting Fiji and Japan do?

The funds being thrown about would easily cover any losses that are set to be made by RA.

$x split 10 ways > split 12 ways?

 

[Derpus]

$x split 10 ways > split 12 ways?

Yeah but that's not the issue, supposedly.

 

[waiopehu oldboy]

^ In my experience $ is ALWAYS the issue, esp when people say it isn't

 

[Derpus]

Well yeah, i guess i meant they stood to lose a lot more if relegated than they would gain from the world league. Thus relegation being the major issue.

Without relegation i don't see there being a substantial difference between having Japan + Fiji in or not. Sure, without them each nation gets a little extra. But then, what the fuck are they paying for? A RC v 6N winners match?

 

[waiopehu oldboy]

^ I was being slightly facetious 'cos AFAIK the SANZAAR partners had no problem with Fiji & Japan being included & it's hard to see YTF any of the 6N would care one way or t'other. So it's gotta be either $ or being difficult for the sake of being difficult.

EDIT: or they're worried about losing to them.

 

[Strewthcobber]

Was it they wanted a fewer number of games through the season?

 

[Rebels3]

It’s the same amount of games as teams already play and in some cases less than they already do.

 

[Rugbynutter39]

Given the perilous state of rugby finances for many in the world game if world league gets vetoed because Scotland, Italy and Ireland do not sign up for it those countries unions would have a lot to answer for putting their own interests ahead of the broader growth of the world game which is the bigger win win for all.

 

[WorkingClassRugger]

Was it they wanted a fewer number of games through the season?

More money is most likely the answer. Most of the NH teams only play 11/12 Tests a season so this wouldn't be all that much of a change up on that.

 

[waiopehu oldboy]

Latest deadline for 6N & TRC Unions to accept WR (World Rugby)'s plan is close of (NH) business Friday:

https://i.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/i...clarity-on-radical-new-world-league-this-week

 

[hoggy]

Looking for an explanation. The RA have pretty much put all there eggs in this basket, but do we know the status of broadcasting under this agreement. Presumably an investment company is buying the rights to Test Rugby and the World league that comes with it, it will then on sell those rights to individual broadcasters.

So does that mean Wallaby Test matches will then be behind a pay wall (or highest bidder), especially since Castle just came out the other day in regards to Foxtel, stating that foxtel while pretty cool on Super rugby have maintained there interest in broadcasting the Internationals (presumably RA hoping to bundle in Super/NRC in that mix).

But if they sign onto World Rugby, is it RA"s content to sell???

 

[Strewthcobber]

Looking for an explanation. The RA have pretty much put all there eggs in this basket, but do we know the status of broadcasting under this agreement. Presumably an investment company is buying the rights to Test Rugby and the World league that comes with it, it will then on sell those rights to individual broadcasters.

So then does that mean Wallaby Test matches will then be behind a pay wall.

Wallaby matches in Australia and New Zealand, and at the world cup are on the anti-siphoning list so theoretically those games would be safe